[ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - page 396.

MinermanNC

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Quote from: andyatcrux on September 13, 2015, 12:47:46 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 12:21:55 PM

Quote from: ol92 on September 13, 2015, 10:28:43 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 10:22:31 AM

So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

No you still have your coins : try deleting resources\app\Sia\consensus\*
or
- copy your resources\app\Sia\wallet\*
- start with a fresh install, but copy & paste the wallet directory and start the client.

Ok, Option 1 is the way to go! Wink

All good!

Coin balance is correct and sitting at block 16448. password works fine, showing host etc.

Conclusion: If you corrupt your data base, delete consensus file, Kill siad (if running) restart wallet, let it fully sync up, then unlock wallet.

PS: I still don't see my file I had uploaded? not a biggy right now

Just not sure after closing wallet again if we should just let siad process stay running? oh well.

If you want to close the daemon remember to use siac stop not your task manager or you will be back to square one.

Sounds good
THX!

I guess what I am wondering is if I close the wallet etc and reboot my PC will that not cause the database to corrupt again? if I don't first stop siad using siac to stop?

andyatcrux

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Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 12:21:55 PM

Quote from: ol92 on September 13, 2015, 10:28:43 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 10:22:31 AM

So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

No you still have your coins : try deleting resources\app\Sia\consensus\*
or
- copy your resources\app\Sia\wallet\*
- start with a fresh install, but copy & paste the wallet directory and start the client.

Ok, Option 1 is the way to go! Wink

All good!

Coin balance is correct and sitting at block 16448. password works fine, showing host etc.

Conclusion: If you corrupt your data base, delete consensus file, Kill siad (if running) restart wallet, let it fully sync up, then unlock wallet.

PS: I still don't see my file I had uploaded? not a biggy right now

Just not sure after closing wallet again if we should just let siad process stay running? oh well.

If you want to close the daemon remember to use siac stop not your task manager or you will be back to square one.

andyatcrux

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Quote from: pallas on September 13, 2015, 11:03:08 AM

I cleaned the database after the corruption.
Synced again, now stuck at block 16294.
Is it the last block?

Right now, my wallet is at 16450

MinermanNC

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Quote from: ol92 on September 13, 2015, 10:28:43 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 10:22:31 AM

So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

No you still have your coins : try deleting resources\app\Sia\consensus\*
or
- copy your resources\app\Sia\wallet\*
- start with a fresh install, but copy & paste the wallet directory and start the client.

Ok, Option 1 is the way to go! Wink

All good!

Coin balance is correct and sitting at block 16448. password works fine, showing host etc.

Conclusion: If you corrupt your data base, delete consensus file, Kill siad (if running) restart wallet, let it fully sync up, then unlock wallet.

PS: I still don't see my file I had uploaded? not a biggy right now

Just not sure after closing wallet again if we should just let siad process stay running? oh well.

fundomatic

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Quote from: pallas on September 13, 2015, 11:03:08 AM

I cleaned the database after the corruption.
Synced again, now stuck at block 16294.
Is it the last block?

My local blockchain is 16448 blocks.
From my experience, syncing the blockchain slows down as it gets higher.

MinermanNC

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Quote from: chrysophylax on September 13, 2015, 11:16:10 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 11:06:17 AM

Quote from: ol92 on September 13, 2015, 10:28:43 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 10:22:31 AM

So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

No you still have your coins : try deleting resources\app\Sia\consensus\*
or
- copy your resources\app\Sia\wallet\*
- start with a fresh install, but copy & paste the wallet directory and start the client.

Hey I tried the second option first, not much luck other than I was able to unlock the clean install of wallet.

So I am back to my original wallet and deleted the consensus file and wallet began to update blocks etc. BUT, during that sync I went ahead and unlocked the wallet and it now seems that the blocks/wallet has have stopped syncing? and I do not see coins imported yet from legacy wallet nor do I see a file I uploaded.

ok, just saw post where it says to allow full sync before unlocking lol

Step 1 seems to work better than step 2. Will edit if I sync and see coins and stored data.

Thanks! Grin

EDIT: just deleted consensus file again and killed siad. Restarted wallet but will allow it to scyn fully before unlocking... see if that prevents it from getting stuck syncing. The unlock....

there is also the issue of it slowing RIGHT DOWN with the sync process whenthe wallet is unlocked before it fully syncs ...

taek mentioned this a little while ago - and it is still a bug in this version of the wallet too ...

so chances are that it WILL sync - it will just mean you need to go on a holiday and come back before it finishes Wink

...

from what i can see from my wallet - its up to block 16446 ...

#crysx

lol, ya really,, well I am still syncing right now "ok" once done I will unlock and see how it goes

in the meantime either a holiday or better yet, I am going to go make omelets and sausage gravy for me and my son Wink

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Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 11:06:17 AM

Quote from: ol92 on September 13, 2015, 10:28:43 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 10:22:31 AM

So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

No you still have your coins : try deleting resources\app\Sia\consensus\*
or
- copy your resources\app\Sia\wallet\*
- start with a fresh install, but copy & paste the wallet directory and start the client.

Hey I tried the second option first, not much luck other than I was able to unlock the clean install of wallet.

So I am back to my original wallet and deleted the consensus file and wallet began to update blocks etc. BUT, during that sync I went ahead and unlocked the wallet and it now seems that the blocks/wallet has have stopped syncing? and I do not see coins imported yet from legacy wallet nor do I see a file I uploaded.

ok, just saw post where it says to allow full sync before unlocking lol

Step 1 seems to work better than step 2. Will edit if I sync and see coins and stored data.

Thanks! Grin

EDIT: just deleted consensus file again and killed siad. Restarted wallet but will allow it to scyn fully before unlocking... see if that prevents it from getting stuck syncing. The unlock....

there is also the issue of it slowing RIGHT DOWN with the sync process whenthe wallet is unlocked before it fully syncs ...

taek mentioned this a little while ago - and it is still a bug in this version of the wallet too ...

so chances are that it WILL sync - it will just mean you need to go on a holiday and come back before it finishes Wink

...

from what i can see from my wallet - its up to block 16446 ...

#crysx

MinermanNC

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Quote from: ol92 on September 13, 2015, 10:28:43 AM

Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 10:22:31 AM

So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

No you still have your coins : try deleting resources\app\Sia\consensus\*
or
- copy your resources\app\Sia\wallet\*
- start with a fresh install, but copy & paste the wallet directory and start the client.

Hey I tried the second option first, not much luck other than I was able to unlock the clean install of wallet.

So I am back to my original wallet and deleted the consensus file and wallet began to update blocks etc. BUT, during that sync I went ahead and unlocked the wallet and it now seems that the blocks/wallet has have stopped syncing? and I do not see coins imported yet from legacy wallet nor do I see a file I uploaded.

ok, just saw post where it says to allow full sync before unlocking lol

Step 1 seems to work better than step 2. Will edit if I sync and see coins and stored data.

Thanks! Grin

EDIT: just deleted consensus file again and killed siad. Restarted wallet but will allow it to sync fully before unlocking... see if that prevents it from getting stuck syncing. Then unlock....

pallas

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Quote from: fundomatic on September 13, 2015, 10:56:35 AM

Seems like some time ago, a lot of hashing power joined the network, mined a lot of coins, dumped some. The mining difficulty was raised, that hashing power left the network. The current hashing power is not enough to keep finding block every 10min. This should change when the difficulty is recalculated. That is just one unfortunate/ugly side effect of POW (proof of work) algorithm of securing the blockchain. Mining pools should scale this problem down.

having pools will not change that.
having a faster difficulty adjustment and a stable price will.

pallas

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I cleaned the database after the corruption.
Synced again, now stuck at block 16294.
Is it the last block?

fundomatic

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Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 10:22:31 AM

So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

Failing to save local blockchain database properly should only mean your local machine/wallet has inconsistent state (for example, no transactions seen, or no coins received).

The blockchain should be resynced (the old/corrupted blockchain databased should be removed) and the new/consistent blockchain state should reflect the changes made to your wallet/coins.

It is better to unlock your wallet only after the blockchain was synced.

Also, mind, one confirmation (one block mined) can take very long time. This would continue until the difficulty is recalculated for the current hashing power. And this should happen after some number of blocks (500 minus whatever # found so far) were mined.

Seems like some time ago, a lot of hashing power joined the network, mined a lot of coins, dumped some. The mining difficulty was raised, that hashing power left the network. The current hashing power is not enough to keep finding block every 10min. This should change when the difficulty is recalculated. That is just one unfortunate/ugly side effect of POW (proof of work) algorithm of securing the blockchain. Mining pools should scale this problem down.

ol92

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Quote from: MinermanNC on September 13, 2015, 10:22:31 AM

So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

No you still have your coins : try deleting resources\app\Sia\consensus\*
or
- copy your resources\app\Sia\wallet\*
- start with a fresh install, but copy & paste the wallet directory and start the client.

fundomatic

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How can i close siad with siac (windows), without crashing or corrupting the database?

The following is relevant to linux. 'cmd' tool in windows may enable similar results.
'siac' is a file name in linux, 'stop' is the command for 'siac'. This (and similar commands) need to be run
from the directory this file resides in.

Code:

./siac stop

Stopping the 'siad' this way should save the blockchain database in a few minutes. Unfortunately there is no 'progress indication' of either saving the database was completed or not. The following command can be used to see if 'siad' processes terminated. No output should mean the 'siad' process stopped and the database was saved.

Code:

ps aux | grep siad

Disclaimer: The 'ps aux | grep siad' was not tested.

MinermanNC

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So for those of us who killed siad using task manager, does this mean we have also lost our coins and any uploads stored in new wallet? Hard to imagine that.

MinermanNC

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Ah good morning

nothing like a good nights rest and a good cup of coffee before studying SIA wallet lol Grin

Boy this thread came to life overnight! lol

Ok, I think I left off last night dealing with database corruption if I kill siad" Huh

Odsejen

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Quote from: andyatcrux on September 12, 2015, 10:15:03 PM

Quote from: chrysophylax on September 12, 2015, 09:56:14 PM

Quote from: pallas on September 12, 2015, 03:31:21 PM

I couldn't get past block 16420, so I stopped the gui and killed the daemon.
Now when I run it I get this error and it stops:

database guard indicates inconsistency within database

What to do?

i have had the sia wallet open AND unlocked and left it over night after importing all the coins from the old wallets ...

at first the new wallet ( 0.4.2 ) didnt show any sign of having anything done except for the acknowledgment that the legacy wallets were imported ... shortly after - about an hour i guess - it showed all the coins in the wallet ... and the 'current' block height ... since we cant check via the sia explorer - i took it as working and current ...

bed - sleep - woke ... i find the wallet has increased by 5 blocks only - and that all still seems well with it as far as i can tell ...

im now worried about shutting the wallet down - 'just in case' there really is something wrong ... too many coins to lose now - all consolodated into one wallet ...

will leave it open until taek comes out with some announcement of what to do ...

i still have a great deal of work left on my end - and will be working through the weekend to get them all running for GRN and thefarm and the donation sevrers ...

ive stopped mining sia for the time being - but still VERY interetsed in the project ...

ive pmd you back pallas - let me know what your thoughts are please mate ... as we can implement a few ideas with sia also ...

tanx ...

#crysx

Both Minerman and Pallas corrupted the database. You CANNOT kill the Siad process in the task manager. You MUST use Siac to close Siad. Simply delete the database file and reload. It is planned for a fix in the next GUI I think.

How can i close siad with siac (windows), without crashing or corrupting the database?

go6ooo1212

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Quote from: marcus1986 on September 13, 2015, 05:37:47 AM

Quote from: bitspill on September 13, 2015, 05:22:43 AM

Quote from: marcus1986 on September 13, 2015, 05:11:28 AM

I've run the new sia-ui 4.0.2 (x64) and load my old wallet. It showed full balance. Yesterday I've sent my funds to poloniex and it comes from my sia wallet. Today I see 0 of 6 confirmations in my Poloniex sia wallet and 10 Sia in my desktop wallet. I've waited for 12 hours but no way. My sia haven't come to polo account. Where can I find my funds? Please help.
P.S. Is there working block explorer?

Blocks have been coming extremely slowly lately, difficulty rose and many miners left.

Block explorer is http://explore.siacoin.com however it's currently experiencing issues and should be back in a week or so.

When I send sia to poloniex it was 16420 Block Height at sia wallet. Now it shows Block Height: 16437. But there is pendin status and 0 of 6 confirmations in polo account. Maybe fork?

maybe you just need to contact Polo's support , would you mind...

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Quote from: bitspill on September 13, 2015, 05:22:43 AM

Quote from: marcus1986 on September 13, 2015, 05:11:28 AM

I've run the new sia-ui 4.0.2 (x64) and load my old wallet. It showed full balance. Yesterday I've sent my funds to poloniex and it comes from my sia wallet. Today I see 0 of 6 confirmations in my Poloniex sia wallet and 10 Sia in my desktop wallet. I've waited for 12 hours but no way. My sia haven't come to polo account. Where can I find my funds? Please help.
P.S. Is there working block explorer?

Blocks have been coming extremely slowly lately, difficulty rose and many miners left.

Block explorer is http://explore.siacoin.com however it's currently experiencing issues and should be back in a week or so.

When I send sia to poloniex it was 16420 Block Height at sia wallet. Now it shows Block Height: 16437. But there is pendin status and 0 of 6 confirmations in polo account. Maybe fork?

yeponlyone

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Quote from: bitwarrior on September 13, 2015, 04:54:07 AM

Sia is trading at 14 satoshi at the moment, I wonder when it will be back on its feet and trading at the 30s or more.
Goodluck to the continuing works being done here for the project.

Couldn't said it better. But 14 sat gives room for some more investment. I frankly can't understand how anyone now will lose money long-term

Awesome work, guys!

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Quote from: marcus1986 on September 13, 2015, 05:11:28 AM

I've run the new sia-ui 4.0.2 (x64) and load my old wallet. It showed full balance. Yesterday I've sent my funds to poloniex and it comes from my sia wallet. Today I see 0 of 6 confirmations in my Poloniex sia wallet and 10 Sia in my desktop wallet. I've waited for 12 hours but no way. My sia haven't come to polo account. Where can I find my funds? Please help.
P.S. Is there working block explorer?

Blocks have been coming extremely slowly lately, difficulty rose and many miners left.

Block explorer is http://explore.siacoin.com however it's currently experiencing issues and should be back in a week or so.

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