[ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - page 423.

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Quote from: Taek on July 27, 2015, 07:15:58 PM

Quote from: WilderX on July 26, 2015, 08:12:29 AM

Damned nice progress Taek + Team!

UPnP is good for mass adoption, but I don't know why that mining pool should be such a high priority? The way I see it these should be the next top priorities:

1. Password protection for the wallet (easy to do from the wallet UI)
2. Increasing file size cap (at least 4GB "DVD size", but preferably 50GB "Blu-ray" and obviously much more in near future when 4k goes viral)
3. Dropbox style easy user interface and automated file contracts renewals and not manual. (without this there will be no mass adoption).

Just my thoughts, but surely you know best your own project Grin

One of the interns is working on the mining pool. It's a priority, but it's not the top priority.

I am working on wallet encryption + some other wallet things right now. When I'm done, the wallet api will be sufficient for exchanges to add us, and losing coins on accident should no longer be a problem. I've been looking at a few of the most popular bitcoin + altcoin wallets to figure out how to make our wallet the best that's out there, and there's been a lot of progress. Siafunds from the UI is a goal.

Luke is working on the file contract stuff right now. When he's done, the file cap will be raised to 5GB (enough to support DVDs), and uploading entire folders will be supported.

Dropbox style uploading will not be ready by 0.4.0. Perhaps later on in September though. Depending on how the 0.4.0 launch goes, we want to focus on getting other developers and businesses involved. Sia is a lot bigger than just personal storage.

It sorta seems like we're on target for August 15th. It's going to be tight but we haven't yet hit any major hurdles, and everyone seems reasonably confident that they'll be done with their part of the work in time.

Is the mining pool work included in the tentative Aug 15th target or is that coming later?

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Quote from: WilderX on July 26, 2015, 08:12:29 AM

Damned nice progress Taek + Team!

UPnP is good for mass adoption, but I don't know why that mining pool should be such a high priority? The way I see it these should be the next top priorities:

1. Password protection for the wallet (easy to do from the wallet UI)
2. Increasing file size cap (at least 4GB "DVD size", but preferably 50GB "Blu-ray" and obviously much more in near future when 4k goes viral)
3. Dropbox style easy user interface and automated file contracts renewals and not manual. (without this there will be no mass adoption).

Just my thoughts, but surely you know best your own project Grin

One of the interns is working on the mining pool. It's a priority, but it's not the top priority.

I am working on wallet encryption + some other wallet things right now. When I'm done, the wallet api will be sufficient for exchanges to add us, and losing coins on accident should no longer be a problem. I've been looking at a few of the most popular bitcoin + altcoin wallets to figure out how to make our wallet the best that's out there, and there's been a lot of progress. Siafunds from the UI is a goal.

Luke is working on the file contract stuff right now. When he's done, the file cap will be raised to 5GB (enough to support DVDs), and uploading entire folders will be supported.

Dropbox style uploading will not be ready by 0.4.0. Perhaps later on in September though. Depending on how the 0.4.0 launch goes, we want to focus on getting other developers and businesses involved. Sia is a lot bigger than just personal storage.

It sorta seems like we're on target for August 15th. It's going to be tight but we haven't yet hit any major hurdles, and everyone seems reasonably confident that they'll be done with their part of the work in time.

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I think nvidias maxwell will be very energy efficient and fast at any algo, sia is not an exception... May be situation will change with amd fury cards.

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using opensource miners and standard clocks, the 970 performs about the same as a 280x but using less power, so I'd say it's pretty efficient.

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Quote from: pallas on July 27, 2015, 07:38:52 AM

Quote from: go6ooo1212 on July 27, 2015, 07:32:05 AM

Quote from: pallas on July 27, 2015, 07:01:54 AM

Since nobody asked about the cuda miner for linux or the modified opencl one, I assume nobody's mining Sia on nvidia....
Just to understand if it's worth working on it.

Actually I am... I found Nvidia miners recently. In fact they are working fine to me... 320 MH/s on 750ti

The cuda version can surely be optimised: it should at least match the opencl one, as of hashrate.
Now If only the opencl version wouldn't eat a full cpu core....

if only ...

i have found that mining sia is not only difficult - but also not very efficient on the nvidia cards ...

if there was an optimized version through cuda for the blake2 algo for sia - that would be something to bring our interest back into mining sia ...

djm? ... klaust? ... sp? ... you all do cuda dont you? ... interested? ...

#crysx

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Yeah the CPU is cold now...

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Quote from: go6ooo1212 on July 27, 2015, 07:32:05 AM

Quote from: pallas on July 27, 2015, 07:01:54 AM

Since nobody asked about the cuda miner for linux or the modified opencl one, I assume nobody's mining Sia on nvidia....
Just to understand if it's worth working on it.

Actually I am... I found Nvidia miners recently. In fact they are working fine to me... 320 MH/s on 750ti

The cuda version can surely be optimised: it should at least match the opencl one, as of hashrate.
Now If only the opencl version wouldn't eat a full cpu core....

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Quote from: pallas on July 27, 2015, 07:01:54 AM

Since nobody asked about the cuda miner for linux or the modified opencl one, I assume nobody's mining Sia on nvidia....
Just to understand if it's worth working on it.

Actually I am... I found Nvidia miners recently. In fact they are working fine to me... 320 MH/s on 750ti

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Since nobody asked about the cuda miner for linux or the modified opencl one, I assume nobody's mining Sia on nvidia....
Just to understand if it's worth working on it.

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Quote from: Schleicher on July 25, 2015, 01:31:27 PM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 12:34:01 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on July 25, 2015, 12:09:12 PM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 11:29:29 AM

some defines are needed for the clock functions, don't know about the other errors.

what hashrate are you getting with it?

You need to enable C++11.
On my GTX970 it's about 800 MH/s, maybe a little bit more if I had better cooling.

C++11 already enabled. Without that it didn't reach linking stage.
800 is more than default opencl implementation but less than 870, which I reached modding it a bit.

I have no clue about gcc. Maybe it doesn't find the right library? Or the library is too old?
It's standard c++11, nothing special.

with some changes to Makefile and network.cpp I could compile it successfully on Linux:

Sia-CUDA-Miner 1.06

Initializing...
Device 0: GeForce GTX 970 (Compute Capability 5.2)

Using device 0

new difficulty = 72164
Mining at 722.161 MH/s 0 blocks mined

But I can get 870 Mh/s with the modded opencl miner, although using 100% of a cpu core (your cuda version uses almost 0%).

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Quote from: Taek on July 25, 2015, 11:35:09 AM

Luke has written a blog post about IPv4, nat, upnp, and port forwarding: http://blog.siacoin.com/2015/07/25/why-ipv4-inhibits-decentralization/

0.4.0 will support upnp, which means many of you will no longer need to manually forward your ports Cheesy

Quote from: go6ooo1212 on July 25, 2015, 05:51:39 AM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 03:43:30 AM

I'm trying the gpu miner on nvidia and noticing it takes 100% cpu. It's compiled from git on ubuntu 15.04. On amd it takes less than 1%. Anyone else?

Indeed , that happened when the 0.3.3.3 were released. Then I needed to stop mining with my nvidias, because of the huge CPU-load...

We are not sure why that started happening, but we also haven't had a lot of time to look into it. We're more concerned about building the mining pool.

Quote from: Schleicher on July 25, 2015, 11:19:56 AM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 03:43:30 AM

I'm trying the gpu miner on nvidia and noticing it takes 100% cpu. It's compiled from git on ubuntu 15.04. On amd it takes less than 1%. Anyone else?

I don't know if it also happens on Linux, but on Windows all the OpenCL miners take 100% of one CPU core.
You can blame Nvidia for this.
I have made a simple CUDA version of the Sia miner, but currently it only compiles on Windows.
https://github.com/KlausT/Sia-CUDA-Miner
Someone should probably fix the makefile, I have no clue how to do that since I don't use Linux.

Thanks for doing that. I think that we will be able to get it compiling on Linux at some point, but we're so busy with other things that I'm not sure when we will get to it.

Damned nice progress Taek + Team!

UPnP is good for mass adoption, but I don't know why that mining pool should be such a high priority? The way I see it these should be the next top priorities:

1. Password protection for the wallet (easy to do from the wallet UI)
2. Increasing file size cap (at least 4GB "DVD size", but preferably 50GB "Blu-ray" and obviously much more in near future when 4k goes viral)
3. Dropbox style easy user interface and automated file contracts renewals and not manual. (without this there will be no mass adoption).

Just my thoughts, but surely you know best your own project Grin

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These are some Siacoin topic threads on other cryptocurrencies forum

https://dashtalk.org/threads/siacoin-a-highly-efficient-decentralized-storage-platform.5701/

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17630.0.html

https://xrptalk.org/topic/7067-siacoin-a-highly-efficient-decentralized-storage-platform/

https://forum.safenetwork.io/t/siacoin-a-highly-efficient-decentralized-storage-platform/4539

I wonder if you guys can make some post on those threads from time to time to keep them bumped.

P.S. - could not figure out how to create a topic on Doge reddit forum - https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/
If someone can figure it out it will be great.

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Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 12:34:01 PM

Quote from: Schleicher on July 25, 2015, 12:09:12 PM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 11:29:29 AM

some defines are needed for the clock functions, don't know about the other errors.

what hashrate are you getting with it?

You need to enable C++11.
On my GTX970 it's about 800 MH/s, maybe a little bit more if I had better cooling.

C++11 already enabled. Without that it didn't reach linking stage.
800 is more than default opencl implementation but less than 870, which I reached modding it a bit.

I have no clue about gcc. Maybe it doesn't find the right library? Or the library is too old?
It's standard c++11, nothing special.

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Quote from: Schleicher on July 25, 2015, 12:09:12 PM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 11:29:29 AM

some defines are needed for the clock functions, don't know about the other errors.

what hashrate are you getting with it?

You need to enable C++11.
On my GTX970 it's about 800 MH/s, maybe a little bit more if I had better cooling.

C++11 already enabled. Without that it didn't reach linking stage.
800 is more than default opencl implementation but less than 870, which I reached modding it a bit.

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Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 11:29:29 AM

some defines are needed for the clock functions, don't know about the other errors.

what hashrate are you getting with it?

You need to enable C++11.
On my GTX970 it's about 800 MH/s, maybe a little bit more if I had better cooling.

Taek

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Luke has written a blog post about IPv4, nat, upnp, and port forwarding: http://blog.siacoin.com/2015/07/25/why-ipv4-inhibits-decentralization/

0.4.0 will support upnp, which means many of you will no longer need to manually forward your ports Cheesy

Quote from: go6ooo1212 on July 25, 2015, 05:51:39 AM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 03:43:30 AM

I'm trying the gpu miner on nvidia and noticing it takes 100% cpu. It's compiled from git on ubuntu 15.04. On amd it takes less than 1%. Anyone else?

Indeed , that happened when the 0.3.3.3 were released. Then I needed to stop mining with my nvidias, because of the huge CPU-load...

We are not sure why that started happening, but we also haven't had a lot of time to look into it. We're more concerned about building the mining pool.

Quote from: Schleicher on July 25, 2015, 11:19:56 AM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 03:43:30 AM

I'm trying the gpu miner on nvidia and noticing it takes 100% cpu. It's compiled from git on ubuntu 15.04. On amd it takes less than 1%. Anyone else?

I don't know if it also happens on Linux, but on Windows all the OpenCL miners take 100% of one CPU core.
You can blame Nvidia for this.
I have made a simple CUDA version of the Sia miner, but currently it only compiles on Windows.
https://github.com/KlausT/Sia-CUDA-Miner
Someone should probably fix the makefile, I have no clue how to do that since I don't use Linux.

Thanks for doing that. I think that we will be able to get it compiling on Linux at some point, but we're so busy with other things that I'm not sure when we will get to it.

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Quote from: Schleicher on July 25, 2015, 11:19:56 AM

Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 03:43:30 AM

I'm trying the gpu miner on nvidia and noticing it takes 100% cpu. It's compiled from git on ubuntu 15.04. On amd it takes less than 1%. Anyone else?

I don't know if it also happens on Linux, but on Windows all the OpenCL miners take 100% of one CPU core.
You can blame Nvidia for this.
I have made a simple CUDA version of the Sia miner, but currently it only compiles on Windows.
https://github.com/KlausT/Sia-CUDA-Miner
Someone should probably fix the makefile, I have no clue how to do that since I don't use Linux.

after a couple Makefile fixes, it still doesn't compile:

gpu-miner.o: In function `grindNonces(unsigned int, int)':
gpu-miner.cpp:(.text+0xe8): undefined reference to `std::chrono::_V2::system_clock::now()'
gpu-miner.cpp:(.text+0x336): undefined reference to `nonceGrindcuda(CUstream_st*, unsigned int, unsigned long*, unsigned long*, unsigned long*, unsigned long*)'
gpu-miner.cpp:(.text+0x42e): undefined reference to `std::chrono::_V2::system_clock::now()'
gpu-miner.o: In function `main':
gpu-miner.cpp:(.text.startup+0x34f): undefined reference to `std::chrono::_V2::system_clock::now()'
gpu-miner.cpp:(.text.startup+0x366): undefined reference to `std::chrono::_V2::system_clock::now()'
network.o: In function `get_header_for_work(unsigned char*, unsigned char*)':
network.cpp:(.text+0x3cb): undefined reference to `lround'

some defines are needed for the clock functions, don't know about the other errors.

what hashrate are you getting with it?

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Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 03:43:30 AM

I'm trying the gpu miner on nvidia and noticing it takes 100% cpu. It's compiled from git on ubuntu 15.04. On amd it takes less than 1%. Anyone else?

I don't know if it also happens on Linux, but on Windows all the OpenCL miners take 100% of one CPU core.
You can blame Nvidia for this.
I have made a simple CUDA version of the Sia miner, but currently it only compiles on Windows.
https://github.com/KlausT/Sia-CUDA-Miner
Someone should probably fix the makefile, I have no clue how to do that since I don't use Linux.

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Quote from: pallas on July 25, 2015, 03:43:30 AM

I'm trying the gpu miner on nvidia and noticing it takes 100% cpu. It's compiled from git on ubuntu 15.04. On amd it takes less than 1%. Anyone else?

Indeed , that happened when the 0.3.3.3 were released. Then I needed to stop mining with my nvidias, because of the huge CPU-load...

pallas

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I'm trying the gpu miner on nvidia and noticing it takes 100% cpu. It's compiled from git on ubuntu 15.04. On amd it takes less than 1%. Anyone else?

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