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Topic: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine - page 117. (Read 823882 times)

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We just need to use the ignore button to rid ourselves of the Trolls like CryptoDevil and Joon2 whatever the fuck his stupid name is.
why? because your little scam community has been cleared out? diesel or whatever shitname yours is

Name:  dieselfrank
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Date Registered:  September 09, 2017, 10:01:11 AM


New account: made 2 weeks ago


speaking in the devil ...
legendary
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“Being paid to post FUD about coins. Has given 100s of forum members negative trust ratings based on no evidence they are scammers or anything other than real people. This guys has some mental health issues and needs to be medicated thoroughly. “

Oh. Lookie, yet another scammer shill account:
just got wind of some chatter from a friend of mine who gets on Chinese crypto sites. There are a few who large buyers who seem to be interested in Sig and are wanting price to stay low so they can buy up as much as they can. They are buying in smaller denominations as to not raise any eyebrows with big buys and have the prices shoot up. 

FFS, could you be any more obvious?

legendary
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I raised valid points, rebut them, don't ignore them.


But I've already responded to the 'facts' you've mentioned.

I'll give you one more shot to be honest in your replies.

You absolutely have not responded to any of the facts I have mentioned, so stop claiming you have.

You have raised nothing that points to this being a scam. This coin had 24 trading volume in the high 70's back near the beginning of August, so 40 or so isn't exactly out of the ordinary.
Claiming that because the coin has had exceedingly high trading volumes since launch is not a rebuttal of the point I raise about it clearly being faked volume. This coin has NOTHING which would explain why it would be getting such high trading volumes, so clearly this volume is merely intended to fake a market interest which does not exist.

You're talking as if ASIC resistance contributes to it being a scam? How?
This coin has been promoted almost entirely on this ridiculous algo being ASIC resistant. This ONLY matters for a coin which is going to remain PoW for its lifetime, not when it is a 100-day PoW which could use any other algorithm already in existence for which no ASICs can mine. So for it to feature as the single biggest 'tech' in the vapid 'whitepaper' it clearly is attempting to fool the ignorant and gullible into believing it is a significant feature.

For it to be a scam, there clearly has to be a way for the creators to grab people's money in some unfair way. How are they doing this?
I wonder if you are intentionally pretending to be so naive as to not understand how they are defrauding people. The marked scammer forum accounts obviously point to the scammers being miners, so they hype the coin while mining it, ensuring there are plenty of posts encouraging other miners to hodl their coins while they sell theirs on an artificially-inflated market which is pumped with fake trading volume.

They are offloading their mined shitcoins for bitcoins. That is the scam and that has always been the scam.

But I suspect you already know this.
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cryptodevil you have not posted any facts to support your claim. You just repeat an accusation that there are loads of fake accounts posting positive stuff about the coin. Even if this were true, which I don't know if it is or isn't, how is this different to what you are doing and how on earth does that make the coin a scam?

I am posting objective facts, they are posting angry vitriol.


Okay, but what facts make this a scam? Saying there's nothing 'great' or 'different' about this coin doesn't make it a scam. VHS was inferior to BetaMax, yet we all used VHS. It's not always about what is objectively better. Give us a real reason to listen to you...

Ok, if you choose to ignore the entirety of the facts I already posted in reply to your request for facts I will have to assume you are trolling and are just another scammer account.

cryptodevil you have not posted any facts to support your claim. You just repeat an accusation that there are loads of fake accounts posting positive stuff about the coin. Even if this were true, which I don't know if it is or isn't, how is this different to what you are doing and how on earth does that make the coin a scam?

I am posting objective facts, they are posting angry vitriol.

Look at the OP:
-/ Your crypto identity /-
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New Skunkhash Raptor Algo
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The only two 'features' mentioned are something to do with "Your crypto identity", which isn't even a thing in the whitepaper and the 'New' algorithm, which concerns only the 100-day PoW mining period.

Why do you think a legit project would be hyping their coin on two elements which have no purpose whatsoever?

Because it is nothing more than a cynical grab for cash.

The 43BTC trading volume on YoBit for the past 24 hours is fake. For a coin to be getting those numbers through legitimate trading it requires that it be considered a valuable technology by serious investors, which this coin is clearly not as it does not have any valuable tech.

Which means that those 43BTC of trades are largely fake volume and that only occurs when the 'project' is trying to con people into thinking it is a valuable coin in order to get them to buy in so the scammers can offload their bags of shitcoins in exchange for the, actually valuable, btc.

Hence the practice of them posting about how Bitcoin is apparently just as much a shitcoin, along with, as you will see if you look through this thread, many posts advising users of the supposed wisdom of not selling their coins right now because [insert arbitrary reason or promise of 'moon' here].




I raised valid points, rebut them, don't ignore them.


So has anyone looked at this jackasses profile? He’s given 100s of members negative trust ratings calling them all scammers or being involved in Ponzi schemes. Crypto devil you have some serious mental health issues and need to be medicated thoroughly. Just because someone has an opinion that differs from you doesn’t mean they are a scammer or involved In schemes. You have a serious problem and if you hate everyone so much then why the fuck are you even in these forums? I don’t think I’ve read one post from you that was positive in anyway.

I think we should all, as a community, give back to cryptodevil the same way he’s given to 100s of other community members. Let’s show him that he can’t post lies and give people negative ratings just because he doesn’t like what you say. Calling people scammers, schemers and all the other crap you say without evidence of any sort is cause to have the same happen to you. And actually, I believe that because you post so many false trust ratings that’s evidence enough of your instability and your deserving of the same.

Here’s my rating of you, others can cut and paste. You deserve no less for all your lies. And, I can prove your a paid fudster just as you can prove they are all scammers or involved in Ponzi schemes. Just because you say it’s so doesn’t make it so.

Cut and paste in crypto devils trust ratings, mark negative.

“Being paid to post FUD about coins. Has given 100s of forum members negative trust ratings based on no evidence they are scammers or anything other than real people. This guys has some mental health issues and needs to be medicated thoroughly. “

Oh and this isn’t my real account crypto. Wow I made a fake account. Report me, give me negative ratings call me newbie. I’m not. Just not stupid enough like you to post crap on my real account. Have at it devil.
full member
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Friederich Nietzsche once said “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

This could not be a more accurate statement in this case, by constantly running round shouting "SCAM" at every new coin only causes losses to those invested, therefore creating a scam by proxy. telling people to get out your going to loose money, only looses them.... money.

If anyone wants to substantiate a claim that the coin is a scam then go ahead, substantiate it, saying "whitepaper is crap" "Asics resistance can not be proven" "fake volume" are not facts, they are opinions.

If you would like to be taken seriously then document findings with actual quantitative and qualitative research, present your findings supported in a document with facts and analysis, only then will anyone take you seriously.

Right now shouting "Scam" makes you no better than the naysayers with a placard in time square, and lets be honest who the fuck listens to those.  
Stop trying to be the smart guy here, I have learned also about nietsche when i was a schoolboy in the university when i studied social sciences. nothing special about that, you're a fraud.
Maybe you should try to argue in normal words because nothing you say is making any sense retard grow the fuck up

You studied Nietzsche, and yet you can not spell his name, A lean-to covered in shit and sticks in Zimbabwe, is not classed as a University in the rest of the world, the fact you refer to yourself as a "schoolboy" when attending this fictitious university, only further substantiates any claim that you have not attended ANY credible University, now if you had attended a real University, you would understand every word I say.

I would also like to point out "Retard grow the fuck up" is maybe a little advice you should consider, seeing as everyday you are here crying about how much Sigt you lost, and attempting FUD to disguise your inadequacies in life.
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We just need to use the ignore button to rid ourselves of the Trolls like CryptoDevil and Joon2 whatever the fuck his stupid name is.
why? because your little scam community has been cleared out? diesel or whatever shitname yours is

Name:  dieselfrank
Posts:  38
Activity: 28
Position:  Newbie
Date Registered:  September 09, 2017, 10:01:11 AM


New account: made 2 weeks ago


I dont understand what is your problem with community members ( i have nothing to do with that )... But if you want to backup your scam accusations i will be glad to talk with you about those... Im not a developer for the project but i have been around and i can give you my opinion and show you some facts that might clear some of your doubts...
I have nothing against the community members, except some of them around here
and i do fully agree with cryptodevil

Cool... you agree in what exacly?
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We just need to use the ignore button to rid ourselves of the Trolls like CryptoDevil and Joon2 whatever the fuck his stupid name is.
why? because your little scam community has been cleared out? diesel or whatever shitname yours is

Name:  dieselfrank
Posts:  38
Activity: 28
Position:  Newbie
Date Registered:  September 09, 2017, 10:01:11 AM


New account: made 2 weeks ago


I dont understand what is your problem with community members ( i have nothing to do with that )... But if you want to backup your scam accusations i will be glad to talk with you about those... Im not a developer for the project but i have been around and i can give you my opinion and show you some facts that might clear some of your doubts...
I have nothing against the community members, except some of them around here
and i do fully agree with cryptodevil I don't need to explain myself
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oohhh no what a crime, creating new account



Name:  treanski
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Date Registered:  August 22, 2017, 05:17:04 AM


so no more

Ok i see your the type " no real arguments " guy... Now your going to check all acounts... ohh boy... Let me know when you do have real questions...
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oohhh no what a crime, creating new account



Name:  treanski
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Date Registered:  August 22, 2017, 05:17:04 AM


so no more
sr. member
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We just need to use the ignore button to rid ourselves of the Trolls like CryptoDevil and Joon2 whatever the fuck his stupid name is.
why? because your little scam community has been cleared out? diesel or whatever shitname yours is

Name:  dieselfrank
Posts:  38
Activity: 28
Position:  Newbie
Date Registered:  September 09, 2017, 10:01:11 AM


New account: made 2 weeks ago


I dont understand what is your problem with community members ( i have nothing to do with that )... But if you want to backup your scam accusations i will be glad to talk with you about those... Im not a developer for the project but i have been around and i can give you my opinion and show you some facts that might clear some of your doubts...
full member
Activity: 378
Merit: 101
Estimated.Pro - Crypto Signals. Free.
We just need to use the ignore button to rid ourselves of the Trolls like CryptoDevil and Joon2 whatever the fuck his stupid name is.
why? because your little scam community has been cleared out? diesel or whatever shitname yours is

Name:  dieselfrank
Posts:  38
Activity: 28
Position:  Newbie
Date Registered:  September 09, 2017, 10:01:11 AM


New account: made 2 weeks ago
full member
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We just need to use the ignore button to rid ourselves of the Trolls like CryptoDevil and Jootn2 whatever the fuck his stupid name is.
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A lot of trolls and fud wishing to bring down the price to buy a signature is cheaper.

Do not give in to panic, the signature will be in the top 20 coins in the near future.

Careful now, you wouldn't want CryptoDevil to lower your trust rating. He thinks everyone who disagree's with him is a scammer or a bot.

On your point. I disagree, I dont think Signatum will be in top 20 anytime soon, but I'd be happy at $2. My F350 is getting worn out and I need a new truck. Its a 2012, but I have 230k miles.....lol....new truck would be great with no out of pocket cost...

When you look it that way, I'm voting for a 5$

daddy needs a new Suzuki Cheesy

LOL.....at $5 I'd buy a house and get the truck too....cant hurt to hope.
I got only 2k...but I will buy more today or tomorrow if and when when price lowers
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More pre-POS fudding? This is becoming a daily thing now. Signatum must be doing something right to attract these many fudders.

yeah, there are a few...I think they do this to bolster their post count....makes them feel special or something.....I think its funny. Seems the more they run their fat mouths the higher Sigt goes, its great.
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Friederich Nietzsche once said “Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

This could not be a more accurate statement in this case, by constantly running round shouting "SCAM" at every new coin only causes losses to those invested, therefore creating a scam by proxy. telling people to get out your going to loose money, only looses them.... money.

If anyone wants to substantiate a claim that the coin is a scam then go ahead, substantiate it, saying "whitepaper is crap" "Asics resistance can not be proven" "fake volume" are not facts, they are opinions.

If you would like to be taken seriously then document findings with actual quantitative and qualitative research, present your findings supported in a document with facts and analysis, only then will anyone take you seriously.

Right now shouting "Scam" makes you no better than the naysayers with a placard in time square, and lets be honest who the fuck listens to those.  
Stop trying to be the smart guy here, I have learned also about nietsche when i was a schoolboy in the university when i studied social sciences. nothing special about that, you're a fraud.
Maybe you should try to argue in normal words because nothing you say is making any sense retard grow the fuck up
newbie
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More pre-POS fudding? This is becoming a daily thing now. Signatum must be doing something right to attract these many fudders.
full member
Activity: 161
Merit: 100
A lot of trolls and fud wishing to bring down the price to buy a signature is cheaper.

Do not give in to panic, the signature will be in the top 20 coins in the near future.

Careful now, you wouldn't want CryptoDevil to lower your trust rating. He thinks everyone who disagree's with him is a scammer or a bot.

On your point. I disagree, I dont think Signatum will be in top 20 anytime soon, but I'd be happy at $2. My F350 is getting worn out and I need a new truck. Its a 2012, but I have 230k miles.....lol....new truck would be great with no out of pocket cost...

When you look it that way, I'm voting for a 5$

daddy needs a new Suzuki Cheesy

LOL.....at $5 I'd buy a house and get the truck too....cant hurt to hope.
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Oh wow! I have not seen one of these for a long time.

In cryptocurrency terms this is a real blast-from-the-past given the preference for bullshit ICOs these day!

What we have here is what is known as a shitcoin and I cannot believe people still fall for this nonsense.


Ladies, gentlemen and others, please be upstanding for the single most laughably obvious absurdity of this entire project:
https://signatum.io/
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Signatum features the new SkunkHash Raptor algorithm that enables strong ASIC-resistance during the proof of work phase

The ENTIRE premise of this ridiculous shitshow is the hype surrounding how this 'revolutionary' algorithm offers strong ASIC resistance. But the PoW period is only 100 days! Who the fuck would care about building an ASIC to mine this? The 'devs' could just as easily have picked any of the legitimate algorithms for which ASICS do not exist.

100 days of PoW!

The whitepaper consists of paragraph after paragraph of talk about this coin's PoW algo and NOTHING else of any difference to EVERY other fucking clone-a-coin cryptocurrency out there. It isn't even a technical whitepaper, it is just rambling hand-wavy bollocks!

That you are even arguing over who said or did what from this con-artist 'dev team' would be hilarious if it weren't for the truth that most of you will have lost a substantial amount of your own funds in this fraud.


Jesus Fucking Christ, I am genuinely shocked that this old-school style of crypto scam is still being run and people are still falling for it.
SMH.



I have tried to read all your points to understand what exacly is your fundaments behind your scam accusations... ( Please correct me if im wrong in any point )

Your number 1 claim is that the only feature been hyped on this "shitcoin" is the asic proff capability wich in your eyes is a smoke screen for the hype... Well i have some questions... Isnt it true? Isnt this algo Asic resistant? Lets say all the other possible future coins that use this algo will benefit from that or no?

Regarding this point 1 i think you are forgetting a couple important things... Marketplace and Webwallet both are live in beta version so people can use it and see it... Yes of course its not yet 100% functional ( thats the meaning of Beta version im sure you know that ), but at least exists and its live, you cant deny that... Let me ask you this... Wich other coins, in your glorious days of catching scammers, had released usefull aplications for their coins? I have not been around has much has you ( assuming your account is real and not bought ) and i also have seen a lot of scams during my short period but i cant remember one that had actually spent time developing anything besides a coin deamon...

Your 2 point is about fake accounts and scammers ( i couldnt really understand well because that seems like complete nonsense to anyone that has spend the last 2 years in crypto and seen this huge rise in crypto users ) all i can say is that there is a active discord channel where the devs have been around everyday during the past 2 months and i can speak with more then 1000 people there that im completly sure are not bots....

Has i said in the begining please correct me if i missed any of your points...

A non-bot account

SlowGrowth

Edit 1981 users... nearly 2k bots\scammers on Signatum discord...
member
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Hm a Legendary Troll this is something new Cheesy but funny that when the trolls start the action the coin is crowing  Grin and Cryptodevil you are right you can say what you think about the coin but why you only repeat ever and ever again the algorhytm and the 100 pow phase you say nothing about the marketplace or the communty behind the coin who build funds to list her coin on other exchanges....you only repeat two thinks all the time  Grin seem that you way to get legendary member you repeat thinks every and every time  Grin Grin
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Signatum - best coin for me.
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