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You missed a key difference:  denarius is a premine scam =) SIGT has no premine. It could be a 1:1 carbon copy of denarius and be superior due to no premine.

you may not be aware that some of the largest coins around have significant pre-mines (e.g. ETH...) some even have 20% of all of the generated coins being given to a single wallet. i think the more alarming things with SIGT are that the developer announced it with a 5minute block time however the ANN was modified to say 2 minute block time, all through this the block time has been 1 minute and continues to be 1 minute. there was also almost zero difficulty on the first 1000 blocks which were mined in under 30 minutes:
./signatumd getblockbynumber 1 | grep time
    "time" : 1500413423
Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:30:23 PM GMT

Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine
July 18, 2017, 09:31:17 PM GMT

as you can see he started mining before he posted the ANN

at the exact second of ANN was block 28:
signatumd@vps01:~$ ./signatumd getblockbynumber 28 |grep time
    "time" : 1500413477

these 28 blocks were mined by these addresess:
Code:
~$ for i in {1..28}; do  ./signatumd gettransaction `./signatumd getblockbynumber $i | grep -A1 tx | grep -v tx | cut -d'"' -f2` | grep addresses -A1 | grep -v addresses; done | uniq -c
      1                     "BHDYCrezNnyRLunrSNSWiXUfTGp2C4TwDx"
      1                     "BLuoeSCzKtxJMtqn1TPm2KkDe1GSeD9tBS"
      1                     "BRk5B9PniouGgjbV6MH4Z4TV1tftmTMkV2"
      1                     "BP86J2EiQDyxS1u5icYHUu1yeYxV5RLPGy"
      1                     "BM8ezxZXdco98H8MUq3DV85ATrR6sXTr3Y"
      1                     "BCfueb2YDmCnx5GLvQuyw3bAD5Fu8ra6Ku"
      1                     "BEHDjtAUYNEPf7nfKCs7zLdRyEukHpDEFX"
      1                     "B5SEFG3z2dWN6zqCYJSGkuDAhWWKwkHrAd"
      1                     "BCyMvRsxSiBBGRdJMDvqyNWvy1rR9GU59F"
      1                     "BCb5LzchA6j3zLNGQGNUhbauvPij6CQgjg"
      1                     "BAsfEFibmAqF1whTxB4JYnMGVf6DbuSrms"
      1                     "BHRhvRG15PpuyP238DLPQxmcy8BjsRS1f6"
      1                     "B9numoPpMBHsFWpgjheHDmEc6sxaWeXZ3m"
      1                     "BFYVJDpMWM46F5ow5V7v8SCB5HwPBbbmaG"
      1                     "BGdPdwwQg4ZwjDMaoNDrucohRF8niE89uK"
      1                     "BKMhqS5Zk54XSPssefZkbRxDT4a1pcJAff"
      1                     "BAzxT7qtwo4j9GGEfvXBJqmh5VYg2Uzttv"
      1                     "BCQjiRqPDd8qkjMjt8LDFmF92gqpWTVMkm"
      1                     "BDGk8TtBvBs14rvYoSK5FVLYNcvr9bbKcC"
      1                     "BRYv5sxSqFeFAQn3uKb3LN3JDdavWz6y7x"
      1                     "BTAam9gbFafXMcZorZhJA9VHJgFmp8jmgk"
      1                     "B9CPh1jumowejgqd6gjEZmarjLemeDMupD"
      1                     "BScL4spZQ1dHYVkyNvtD7VdwdGoLcb7Htx"
      1                     "BTLE88u15RsVFqnX71Grx8iim4hYrMwhvT"
      1                     "BK14NJTsCFzg6pV6qWai4zy2oT8dPLyD6J"
      1                     "BEqZeYk3c5UERJ5HRfgZPkhbZmfcbeA2br"
      1                     "BL86ffKbYHEt43pGvaWsEWpJBVxJCMHMyw"
      1                     "BHDfU4Jd3iQjd7R3kGXCfdwj3ENpaUuYQk"

so somehow 28 different people mined 28 different blocks before the ANN was announced, i'm not sure how that works, the wallet/miner was not even publicly available until the fair launch as far as i was aware and even then you have to have some time for people to get & set it up

./signatumd getblockbynumber 1000 | grep time
    "time" : 1500414892
Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:54:52 PM GMT

1469 seconds (24 minutes) to mine the first 1000 blocks, and then difficulty kicked in. still fast to mine at that point but you get the point

I wouldn't pretend to know anything about algorithms, but is "skunkhash raptor" not just a name for the combination of algorithms?  As opposed to it being the literal names of three separate algorithms?
well yes that skunkhash is the name for the algorithms combo, just like tribus is the name for the three algo combo of 80b jh 64b keccak/echo which is used in denarius, but the ANN lists Raptor along with all the other algos and there is also a raptor.h file in the source along with the other algos that contains only one function declaration called RaptorFuck() - however raptor.c where the actual function would exist isn't there, and otherwise the declaration file would be incomplete for an algo as it's missing some pretty large amount of code to be called an algo - it just looks weird is all, but I am interested to know what the Raptor algo is (if there is one) since it could be an interesting new algo that nobody knows about Smiley


My friend should think well and do not rush

I didn't rush. I bought at 400 sat and mined days ago because this coin was fairly launched and I don't care what codebase it's based on if it's so efficient and was launched in such a way to make it the crypto community's token as opposed to the developer's token.

I don't think it is a derivative of Denarius algo. But that's the developer's to speak on, I'm simply saying the community obviously prefers one method of launching: fair, no premine, and open with the community instead of launching it after you mined it. DNR is 20k sat, so SIGT should be right there with it if you believe they're so identical.

well, a 137.5m supply in september this year for SIGT to a 7 million supply in 2020 for DNR, it's only the algorithms which are strikingly similar, but i'm open to input from the developer, that's why i asked - in order for SIGT to have a 20k sat at completion of PoW it would be 20000sat*137500000sigt/100000000sat per btc = 27500 BTC or roughly 71.5M in it.. not entirely impossible but I really do wonder how far the coin gets

If you can backread, dev mentioned this:


3 days old and talking about trex or polo... take it easy, boys  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I've already spoken to trex, we've already submitted a request, but after talking to Richie over there, it seems there's a nice stack of people waiting to be listed.


I paid for cryptopia listing already, .97 BTC is what that cost me.


We'll see what happens with Trex, but for now I'm happy with cryptopia, we'll go for Trex after a few weeks go by. Smiley




I will definitely be willing to help out with the listing on Trex, and I have direct communication with Richie and Bill there. Their basic listing is 3 BTC, so a bit higher than cryptopia... but we'll figure it out.



Wow, that's some serious commitment.
Do you know the dev of this project or may I ask what made you want to invest in this project?
Seeing quite a few Legendary members excited I will take a closer look at Signatum.

There hasn't been a fair and clean coin launched in months with no catch so it was necessary to have something like Signatum. Everybody deserves a fair share so that is why it exists

Uhmm.. sorry but there's nothing Fair and clean about the launch, the difficulty and block time was artificially set to very low values for the first 1000 blocks and the first "normal" miners got in after block 1000... So your artificial instamine brought you about 3.5m coins already...

A smooth transition from GetNextTargetRequired to DGWv3 was programmatically implemented to allow CPU miners to also have a chance to mine. People are used to hidden catches so much that even when something fair comes along, they will try to find something in it. Lets assume that even someone has taken major chunk from those first 1000 blocks, it's just not few people but lots of them

And you can read post that many users did mine the first 1000 blocks. Too bad I wasn't able to join them.

i didn't say that it was 1000 blocks of premine for the dev, i am aware some people got in early and mined a few of the blocks but there is only 6 posts made on this thread before there was 1000 blocks mined, i doubt many other people got in on the action. either way there is no real way to tell because as mentioned there is 28 addresses that mined blocks before the ANN was even posted.. the more i am looking into this the more it has me worried

perhaps if the block time was actually 5 minutes, 0.00024 difficulty (at block 1) to 0.00029 difficulty (at block 999) would be fair - that'd be 5000 minutes for people to jump in on the action, but the block times for 0-999 was an average of 2 seconds. after block 1000 it jumps up to 1 minute blocks quite quickly.. clearly this is a very top-weighted coin, the rewards for mining it at launch (and in the 30 seconds previous to launch) were greater than an hour after launch by 50x. fair launch doesnt seem like the right word
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Did I see the name Crowetic in the OP? The same one from Burst coin? Does he have a hand in this coin?
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You missed a key difference:  denarius is a premine scam =) SIGT has no premine. It could be a 1:1 carbon copy of denarius and be superior due to no premine.

you may not be aware that some of the largest coins around have significant pre-mines (e.g. ETH...) some even have 20% of all of the generated coins being given to a single wallet. i think the more alarming things with SIGT are that the developer announced it with a 5minute block time however the ANN was modified to say 2 minute block time, all through this the block time has been 1 minute and continues to be 1 minute. there was also almost zero difficulty on the first 1000 blocks which were mined in under 30 minutes:
./signatumd getblockbynumber 1 | grep time
    "time" : 1500413423
Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:30:23 PM GMT

Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine
July 18, 2017, 09:31:17 PM GMT

as you can see he started mining before he posted the ANN

at the exact second of ANN was block 28:
signatumd@vps01:~$ ./signatumd getblockbynumber 28 |grep time
    "time" : 1500413477

these 28 blocks were mined by these addresess:
Code:
~$ for i in {1..28}; do  ./signatumd gettransaction `./signatumd getblockbynumber $i | grep -A1 tx | grep -v tx | cut -d'"' -f2` | grep addresses -A1 | grep -v addresses; done | uniq -c
      1                     "BHDYCrezNnyRLunrSNSWiXUfTGp2C4TwDx"
      1                     "BLuoeSCzKtxJMtqn1TPm2KkDe1GSeD9tBS"
      1                     "BRk5B9PniouGgjbV6MH4Z4TV1tftmTMkV2"
      1                     "BP86J2EiQDyxS1u5icYHUu1yeYxV5RLPGy"
      1                     "BM8ezxZXdco98H8MUq3DV85ATrR6sXTr3Y"
      1                     "BCfueb2YDmCnx5GLvQuyw3bAD5Fu8ra6Ku"
      1                     "BEHDjtAUYNEPf7nfKCs7zLdRyEukHpDEFX"
      1                     "B5SEFG3z2dWN6zqCYJSGkuDAhWWKwkHrAd"
      1                     "BCyMvRsxSiBBGRdJMDvqyNWvy1rR9GU59F"
      1                     "BCb5LzchA6j3zLNGQGNUhbauvPij6CQgjg"
      1                     "BAsfEFibmAqF1whTxB4JYnMGVf6DbuSrms"
      1                     "BHRhvRG15PpuyP238DLPQxmcy8BjsRS1f6"
      1                     "B9numoPpMBHsFWpgjheHDmEc6sxaWeXZ3m"
      1                     "BFYVJDpMWM46F5ow5V7v8SCB5HwPBbbmaG"
      1                     "BGdPdwwQg4ZwjDMaoNDrucohRF8niE89uK"
      1                     "BKMhqS5Zk54XSPssefZkbRxDT4a1pcJAff"
      1                     "BAzxT7qtwo4j9GGEfvXBJqmh5VYg2Uzttv"
      1                     "BCQjiRqPDd8qkjMjt8LDFmF92gqpWTVMkm"
      1                     "BDGk8TtBvBs14rvYoSK5FVLYNcvr9bbKcC"
      1                     "BRYv5sxSqFeFAQn3uKb3LN3JDdavWz6y7x"
      1                     "BTAam9gbFafXMcZorZhJA9VHJgFmp8jmgk"
      1                     "B9CPh1jumowejgqd6gjEZmarjLemeDMupD"
      1                     "BScL4spZQ1dHYVkyNvtD7VdwdGoLcb7Htx"
      1                     "BTLE88u15RsVFqnX71Grx8iim4hYrMwhvT"
      1                     "BK14NJTsCFzg6pV6qWai4zy2oT8dPLyD6J"
      1                     "BEqZeYk3c5UERJ5HRfgZPkhbZmfcbeA2br"
      1                     "BL86ffKbYHEt43pGvaWsEWpJBVxJCMHMyw"
      1                     "BHDfU4Jd3iQjd7R3kGXCfdwj3ENpaUuYQk"

so somehow 28 different people mined 28 different blocks before the ANN was announced, i'm not sure how that works, the wallet/miner was not even publicly available until the fair launch as far as i was aware and even then you have to have some time for people to get & set it up

./signatumd getblockbynumber 1000 | grep time
    "time" : 1500414892
Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:54:52 PM GMT

1469 seconds (24 minutes) to mine the first 1000 blocks, and then difficulty kicked in. still fast to mine at that point but you get the point

I wouldn't pretend to know anything about algorithms, but is "skunkhash raptor" not just a name for the combination of algorithms?  As opposed to it being the literal names of three separate algorithms?
well yes that skunkhash is the name for the algorithms combo, just like tribus is the name for the three algo combo of 80b jh 64b keccak/echo which is used in denarius, but the ANN lists Raptor along with all the other algos and there is also a raptor.h file in the source along with the other algos that contains only one function declaration called RaptorFuck() - however raptor.c where the actual function would exist isn't there, and otherwise the declaration file would be incomplete for an algo as it's missing some pretty large amount of code to be called an algo - it just looks weird is all, but I am interested to know what the Raptor algo is (if there is one) since it could be an interesting new algo that nobody knows about Smiley


My friend should think well and do not rush

I didn't rush. I bought at 400 sat and mined days ago because this coin was fairly launched and I don't care what codebase it's based on if it's so efficient and was launched in such a way to make it the crypto community's token as opposed to the developer's token.

I don't think it is a derivative of Denarius algo. But that's the developer's to speak on, I'm simply saying the community obviously prefers one method of launching: fair, no premine, and open with the community instead of launching it after you mined it. DNR is 20k sat, so SIGT should be right there with it if you believe they're so identical.

well, a 137.5m supply in september this year for SIGT to a 7 million supply in 2020 for DNR, it's only the algorithms which are strikingly similar, but i'm open to input from the developer, that's why i asked - in order for SIGT to have a 20k sat at completion of PoW it would be 20000sat*137500000sigt/100000000sat per btc = 27500 BTC or roughly 71.5M in it.. not entirely impossible but I really do wonder how far the coin gets

If you can backread, dev mentioned this:


3 days old and talking about trex or polo... take it easy, boys  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I've already spoken to trex, we've already submitted a request, but after talking to Richie over there, it seems there's a nice stack of people waiting to be listed.


I paid for cryptopia listing already, .97 BTC is what that cost me.


We'll see what happens with Trex, but for now I'm happy with cryptopia, we'll go for Trex after a few weeks go by. Smiley




I will definitely be willing to help out with the listing on Trex, and I have direct communication with Richie and Bill there. Their basic listing is 3 BTC, so a bit higher than cryptopia... but we'll figure it out.



Wow, that's some serious commitment.
Do you know the dev of this project or may I ask what made you want to invest in this project?
Seeing quite a few Legendary members excited I will take a closer look at Signatum.

There hasn't been a fair and clean coin launched in months with no catch so it was necessary to have something like Signatum. Everybody deserves a fair share so that is why it exists

Uhmm.. sorry but there's nothing Fair and clean about the launch, the difficulty and block time was artificially set to very low values for the first 1000 blocks and the first "normal" miners got in after block 1000... So your artificial instamine brought you about 3.5m coins already...

A smooth transition from GetNextTargetRequired to DGWv3 was programmatically implemented to allow CPU miners to also have a chance to mine. People are used to hidden catches so much that even when something fair comes along, they will try to find something in it. Lets assume that even someone has taken major chunk from those first 1000 blocks, it's just not few people but lots of them

And you can read post that many users did mine the first 1000 blocks. Too bad I wasn't able to join them.
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wait why this coin have 24,350,013 SIGT supply  if was not premine?
this supply is even tighter that a premine?
can some one explain this please?
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You missed a key difference:  denarius is a premine scam =) SIGT has no premine. It could be a 1:1 carbon copy of denarius and be superior due to no premine.

you may not be aware that some of the largest coins around have significant pre-mines (e.g. ETH...) some even have 20% of all of the generated coins being given to a single wallet. i think the more alarming things with SIGT are that the developer announced it with a 5minute block time however the ANN was modified to say 2 minute block time, all through this the block time has been 1 minute and continues to be 1 minute. there was also almost zero difficulty on the first 1000 blocks which were mined in under 30 minutes:
./signatumd getblockbynumber 1 | grep time
    "time" : 1500413423
Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:30:23 PM GMT

Re: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine
July 18, 2017, 09:31:17 PM GMT

as you can see he started mining before he posted the ANN

at the exact second of ANN was block 28:
signatumd@vps01:~$ ./signatumd getblockbynumber 28 |grep time
    "time" : 1500413477

these 28 blocks were mined by these addresess:
Code:
~$ for i in {1..28}; do  ./signatumd gettransaction `./signatumd getblockbynumber $i | grep -A1 tx | grep -v tx | cut -d'"' -f2` | grep addresses -A1 | grep -v addresses; done | uniq -c
      1                     "BHDYCrezNnyRLunrSNSWiXUfTGp2C4TwDx"
      1                     "BLuoeSCzKtxJMtqn1TPm2KkDe1GSeD9tBS"
      1                     "BRk5B9PniouGgjbV6MH4Z4TV1tftmTMkV2"
      1                     "BP86J2EiQDyxS1u5icYHUu1yeYxV5RLPGy"
      1                     "BM8ezxZXdco98H8MUq3DV85ATrR6sXTr3Y"
      1                     "BCfueb2YDmCnx5GLvQuyw3bAD5Fu8ra6Ku"
      1                     "BEHDjtAUYNEPf7nfKCs7zLdRyEukHpDEFX"
      1                     "B5SEFG3z2dWN6zqCYJSGkuDAhWWKwkHrAd"
      1                     "BCyMvRsxSiBBGRdJMDvqyNWvy1rR9GU59F"
      1                     "BCb5LzchA6j3zLNGQGNUhbauvPij6CQgjg"
      1                     "BAsfEFibmAqF1whTxB4JYnMGVf6DbuSrms"
      1                     "BHRhvRG15PpuyP238DLPQxmcy8BjsRS1f6"
      1                     "B9numoPpMBHsFWpgjheHDmEc6sxaWeXZ3m"
      1                     "BFYVJDpMWM46F5ow5V7v8SCB5HwPBbbmaG"
      1                     "BGdPdwwQg4ZwjDMaoNDrucohRF8niE89uK"
      1                     "BKMhqS5Zk54XSPssefZkbRxDT4a1pcJAff"
      1                     "BAzxT7qtwo4j9GGEfvXBJqmh5VYg2Uzttv"
      1                     "BCQjiRqPDd8qkjMjt8LDFmF92gqpWTVMkm"
      1                     "BDGk8TtBvBs14rvYoSK5FVLYNcvr9bbKcC"
      1                     "BRYv5sxSqFeFAQn3uKb3LN3JDdavWz6y7x"
      1                     "BTAam9gbFafXMcZorZhJA9VHJgFmp8jmgk"
      1                     "B9CPh1jumowejgqd6gjEZmarjLemeDMupD"
      1                     "BScL4spZQ1dHYVkyNvtD7VdwdGoLcb7Htx"
      1                     "BTLE88u15RsVFqnX71Grx8iim4hYrMwhvT"
      1                     "BK14NJTsCFzg6pV6qWai4zy2oT8dPLyD6J"
      1                     "BEqZeYk3c5UERJ5HRfgZPkhbZmfcbeA2br"
      1                     "BL86ffKbYHEt43pGvaWsEWpJBVxJCMHMyw"
      1                     "BHDfU4Jd3iQjd7R3kGXCfdwj3ENpaUuYQk"

so somehow 28 different people mined 28 different blocks before the ANN was announced, i'm not sure how that works, the wallet/miner was not even publicly available until the fair launch as far as i was aware and even then you have to have some time for people to get & set it up

./signatumd getblockbynumber 1000 | grep time
    "time" : 1500414892
Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:54:52 PM GMT

1469 seconds (24 minutes) to mine the first 1000 blocks, and then difficulty kicked in. still fast to mine at that point but you get the point

I wouldn't pretend to know anything about algorithms, but is "skunkhash raptor" not just a name for the combination of algorithms?  As opposed to it being the literal names of three separate algorithms?
well yes that skunkhash is the name for the algorithms combo, just like tribus is the name for the three algo combo of 80b jh 64b keccak/echo which is used in denarius, but the ANN lists Raptor along with all the other algos and there is also a raptor.h file in the source along with the other algos that contains only one function declaration called RaptorFuck() - however raptor.c where the actual function would exist isn't there, and otherwise the declaration file would be incomplete for an algo as it's missing some pretty large amount of code to be called an algo - it just looks weird is all, but I am interested to know what the Raptor algo is (if there is one) since it could be an interesting new algo that nobody knows about Smiley


My friend should think well and do not rush

I didn't rush. I bought at 400 sat and mined days ago because this coin was fairly launched and I don't care what codebase it's based on if it's so efficient and was launched in such a way to make it the crypto community's token as opposed to the developer's token.

I don't think it is a derivative of Denarius algo. But that's the developer's to speak on, I'm simply saying the community obviously prefers one method of launching: fair, no premine, and open with the community instead of launching it after you mined it. DNR is 20k sat, so SIGT should be right there with it if you believe they're so identical.

well, a 137.5m supply in september this year for SIGT to a 7 million supply in 2020 for DNR, it's only the algorithms which are strikingly similar, but i'm open to input from the developer, that's why i asked - in order for SIGT to have a 20k sat at completion of PoW it would be 20000sat*137500000sigt/100000000sat per btc = 27500 BTC or roughly 71.5M in it.. not entirely impossible but I really do wonder how far the coin gets
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clearly clon of denarius   Roll Eyes  
even the web design  is there a carsenk finger print Smiley
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Wow, this sucker came from outta nowhere and is BLOWING UP.  The price surprises me less than the growth of this thread and market volume.  For such a new coin this is fun to watch.
Really fun to watch.
sr. member
Activity: 1036
Merit: 311
Wow, this sucker came from outta nowhere and is BLOWING UP.  The price surprises me less than the growth of this thread and market volume.  For such a new coin this is fun to watch.
legendary
Activity: 1164
Merit: 1010
1080ti: 35.8 mh/s
980: 15.5 mh/s

Anyone else with these gpus? Configs & clocks welcome!
full member
Activity: 146
Merit: 100
Dear developer
I have some doubts about you
who are you ?
Why are all your accounts new like Twitter and Github?
Especially this algorithm I think it's a Denarius "Tribus"

yes the algo is almost identical.. when I wrote the hashing module for hashbag (prior to their release of a hashing module) I noticed that it's technically the same thing with different algo names (and another algo added). i've never seen 80 bytes of an algo and 64 bytes of the others before Denarius, and then this week all the sudden comes 'SkunkHash + Raptor' where it is 80 bytes of one algo + 64 bytes of 3 other algos, and i have been wondering what Raptor is as I never added it to any hashing module however the blocks are accepted by the network just using the 4 algos: 80b skein, 64b cubehash fugue gost, no need for anything else

thats why i went to look in his own hashing module once he released it but it looks like a pretty close copy of ex_mac's hashing modules.. eg
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhashmodule.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribusmodule.c
only difference is where it says 'tribus' in the skunkhash it says 'skunkhash'

in the skunkhash.c hashing module:
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhash.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribus.c
only difference is that the hash functions used are different (however the first hash is still 80 bytes) and also the init calls are removed (they dont really do anything other than create the variables but you are supposed to use them for some fussy compilers) and they don't use constants for the hashes (again a thing you are supposed to do for max compiler support) and there is a fourth algo added at the end there, otherwise the functionality is identical to the tribus hashing module

and nowhere does it say raptor anywhere, so thats why I wonder what the hell this raptor algo is? searched on the net and didn't find anything about raptor algo

You missed a key difference:  denarius is a premine scam =) SIGT has no premine. It could be a 1:1 carbon copy of denarius and be superior due to no premine.
My friend should think well and do not rush


Look at this guy's signature - he is a DNR supporter, that's why he said that.

Hey I'm a fan of DNR too.  You don't need to bash SIGT just because you like DNR, both can enjoy the "new algo" limelight.  Both good projects in my opinion.
I do not hide my support for Dionarius and this is clear But I'm looking for the truth only Everything is unknown about this developer

We're still trying to find out who satoshi nakamoto is.
Do you compare the BTC with any other coin?
sr. member
Activity: 273
Merit: 250
Dear developer
I have some doubts about you
who are you ?
Why are all your accounts new like Twitter and Github?
Especially this algorithm I think it's a Denarius "Tribus"

yes the algo is almost identical.. when I wrote the hashing module for hashbag (prior to their release of a hashing module) I noticed that it's technically the same thing with different algo names (and another algo added). i've never seen 80 bytes of an algo and 64 bytes of the others before Denarius, and then this week all the sudden comes 'SkunkHash + Raptor' where it is 80 bytes of one algo + 64 bytes of 3 other algos, and i have been wondering what Raptor is as I never added it to any hashing module however the blocks are accepted by the network just using the 4 algos: 80b skein, 64b cubehash fugue gost, no need for anything else

thats why i went to look in his own hashing module once he released it but it looks like a pretty close copy of ex_mac's hashing modules.. eg
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhashmodule.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribusmodule.c
only difference is where it says 'tribus' in the skunkhash it says 'skunkhash'

in the skunkhash.c hashing module:
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhash.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribus.c
only difference is that the hash functions used are different (however the first hash is still 80 bytes) and also the init calls are removed (they dont really do anything other than create the variables but you are supposed to use them for some fussy compilers) and they don't use constants for the hashes (again a thing you are supposed to do for max compiler support) and there is a fourth algo added at the end there, otherwise the functionality is identical to the tribus hashing module

and nowhere does it say raptor anywhere, so thats why I wonder what the hell this raptor algo is? searched on the net and didn't find anything about raptor algo

You missed a key difference:  denarius is a premine scam =) SIGT has no premine. It could be a 1:1 carbon copy of denarius and be superior due to no premine.
My friend should think well and do not rush


Look at this guy's signature - he is a DNR supporter, that's why he said that.

Hey I'm a fan of DNR too.  You don't need to bash SIGT just because you like DNR, both can enjoy the "new algo" limelight.  Both good projects in my opinion.
I do not hide my support for Dionarius and this is clear But I'm looking for the truth only Everything is unknown about this developer

We're still trying to find out who satoshi nakamoto is.
full member
Activity: 304
Merit: 100
seems that coin forked

send transaction to cryptopia, have more 30 confirmations on wallet, but transaction not appear nor blockexplorer or cryptopia

Whats the transaction ID?  I just sent to cryptopia and I don't see it either, but I can see my transaction in the block explorer, I'll look yours up too.

strange suddenly delivered after 40 confirmation on wallet, but yet not present on explorer
id  6bb760b897c816c2a2109ecdfdf3bb83b488b3adba4142a12cc992d8f186aa36
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
Does cryptopia working?  i send  100 coin  but didn't recieved!

it is working, taking more than a minute to appear in the wallet after 20 confirmations....
full member
Activity: 146
Merit: 100
Dear developer
I have some doubts about you
who are you ?
Why are all your accounts new like Twitter and Github?
Especially this algorithm I think it's a Denarius "Tribus"

yes the algo is almost identical.. when I wrote the hashing module for hashbag (prior to their release of a hashing module) I noticed that it's technically the same thing with different algo names (and another algo added). i've never seen 80 bytes of an algo and 64 bytes of the others before Denarius, and then this week all the sudden comes 'SkunkHash + Raptor' where it is 80 bytes of one algo + 64 bytes of 3 other algos, and i have been wondering what Raptor is as I never added it to any hashing module however the blocks are accepted by the network just using the 4 algos: 80b skein, 64b cubehash fugue gost, no need for anything else

thats why i went to look in his own hashing module once he released it but it looks like a pretty close copy of ex_mac's hashing modules.. eg
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhashmodule.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribusmodule.c
only difference is where it says 'tribus' in the skunkhash it says 'skunkhash'

in the skunkhash.c hashing module:
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhash.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribus.c
only difference is that the hash functions used are different (however the first hash is still 80 bytes) and also the init calls are removed (they dont really do anything other than create the variables but you are supposed to use them for some fussy compilers) and they don't use constants for the hashes (again a thing you are supposed to do for max compiler support) and there is a fourth algo added at the end there, otherwise the functionality is identical to the tribus hashing module

and nowhere does it say raptor anywhere, so thats why I wonder what the hell this raptor algo is? searched on the net and didn't find anything about raptor algo

You missed a key difference:  denarius is a premine scam =) SIGT has no premine. It could be a 1:1 carbon copy of denarius and be superior due to no premine.
My friend should think well and do not rush


Look at this guy's signature - he is a DNR supporter, that's why he said that.

Hey I'm a fan of DNR too.  You don't need to bash SIGT just because you like DNR, both can enjoy the "new algo" limelight.  Both good projects in my opinion.
I do not hide my support for Dionarius and this is clear But I'm looking for the truth only Everything is unknown about this developer
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 257
Have you found the Yellow Sign?
seems that coin forked

send transaction to cryptopia, have more 30 confirmations on wallet, but transaction not appear nor blockexplorer or cryptopia
Does cryptopia working?  i send  100 coin  but didn't recieved!
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=SIGT
Cryptopia block=9697

http://explorer.signatum.download/
Network block=9732


Cryptopia is just about 40 blocks behind. They usually are behind the network so they can confirm separately

With how fast the SIGT network is you can expect cryptopia confirmation in about ~15 minutes.
newbie
Activity: 66
Merit: 0
Does cryptopia working?  i send  100 coin  but didn't recieved!
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 100
Dear developer
I have some doubts about you
who are you ?
Why are all your accounts new like Twitter and Github?
Especially this algorithm I think it's a Denarius "Tribus"

yes the algo is almost identical.. when I wrote the hashing module for hashbag (prior to their release of a hashing module) I noticed that it's technically the same thing with different algo names (and another algo added). i've never seen 80 bytes of an algo and 64 bytes of the others before Denarius, and then this week all the sudden comes 'SkunkHash + Raptor' where it is 80 bytes of one algo + 64 bytes of 3 other algos, and i have been wondering what Raptor is as I never added it to any hashing module however the blocks are accepted by the network just using the 4 algos: 80b skein, 64b cubehash fugue gost, no need for anything else

thats why i went to look in his own hashing module once he released it but it looks like a pretty close copy of ex_mac's hashing modules.. eg
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhashmodule.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribusmodule.c
only difference is where it says 'tribus' in the skunkhash it says 'skunkhash'

in the skunkhash.c hashing module:
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhash.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribus.c
only difference is that the hash functions used are different (however the first hash is still 80 bytes) and also the init calls are removed (they dont really do anything other than create the variables but you are supposed to use them for some fussy compilers) and they don't use constants for the hashes (again a thing you are supposed to do for max compiler support) and there is a fourth algo added at the end there, otherwise the functionality is identical to the tribus hashing module

and nowhere does it say raptor anywhere, so thats why I wonder what the hell this raptor algo is? searched on the net and didn't find anything about raptor algo

interesting...maybe they are related somehow, same devs?? anything else?? who knows??

I wouldn't pretend to know anything about algorithms, but is "skunkhash raptor" not just a name for the combination of algorithms?  As opposed to it being the literal names of three separate algorithms?
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Dear developer
I have some doubts about you
who are you ?
Why are all your accounts new like Twitter and Github?
Especially this algorithm I think it's a Denarius "Tribus"

yes the algo is almost identical.. when I wrote the hashing module for hashbag (prior to their release of a hashing module) I noticed that it's technically the same thing with different algo names (and another algo added). i've never seen 80 bytes of an algo and 64 bytes of the others before Denarius, and then this week all the sudden comes 'SkunkHash + Raptor' where it is 80 bytes of one algo + 64 bytes of 3 other algos, and i have been wondering what Raptor is as I never added it to any hashing module however the blocks are accepted by the network just using the 4 algos: 80b skein, 64b cubehash fugue gost, no need for anything else

thats why i went to look in his own hashing module once he released it but it looks like a pretty close copy of ex_mac's hashing modules.. eg
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhashmodule.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribusmodule.c
only difference is where it says 'tribus' in the skunkhash it says 'skunkhash'

in the skunkhash.c hashing module:
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhash.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribus.c
only difference is that the hash functions used are different (however the first hash is still 80 bytes) and also the init calls are removed (they dont really do anything other than create the variables but you are supposed to use them for some fussy compilers) and they don't use constants for the hashes (again a thing you are supposed to do for max compiler support) and there is a fourth algo added at the end there, otherwise the functionality is identical to the tribus hashing module

and nowhere does it say raptor anywhere, so thats why I wonder what the hell this raptor algo is? searched on the net and didn't find anything about raptor algo

interesting...maybe they are related somehow, same devs?? anything else?? who knows??
full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 100
Dear developer
I have some doubts about you
who are you ?
Why are all your accounts new like Twitter and Github?
Especially this algorithm I think it's a Denarius "Tribus"

yes the algo is almost identical.. when I wrote the hashing module for hashbag (prior to their release of a hashing module) I noticed that it's technically the same thing with different algo names (and another algo added). i've never seen 80 bytes of an algo and 64 bytes of the others before Denarius, and then this week all the sudden comes 'SkunkHash + Raptor' where it is 80 bytes of one algo + 64 bytes of 3 other algos, and i have been wondering what Raptor is as I never added it to any hashing module however the blocks are accepted by the network just using the 4 algos: 80b skein, 64b cubehash fugue gost, no need for anything else

thats why i went to look in his own hashing module once he released it but it looks like a pretty close copy of ex_mac's hashing modules.. eg
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhashmodule.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribusmodule.c
only difference is where it says 'tribus' in the skunkhash it says 'skunkhash'

in the skunkhash.c hashing module:
https://github.com/signatumd/hashing-module/blob/master/skunkhash.c
https://github.com/exmac/tribus-hash/blob/master/tribus.c
only difference is that the hash functions used are different (however the first hash is still 80 bytes) and also the init calls are removed (they dont really do anything other than create the variables but you are supposed to use them for some fussy compilers) and they don't use constants for the hashes (again a thing you are supposed to do for max compiler support) and there is a fourth algo added at the end there, otherwise the functionality is identical to the tribus hashing module

and nowhere does it say raptor anywhere, so thats why I wonder what the hell this raptor algo is? searched on the net and didn't find anything about raptor algo

You missed a key difference:  denarius is a premine scam =) SIGT has no premine. It could be a 1:1 carbon copy of denarius and be superior due to no premine.
My friend should think well and do not rush


Look at this guy's signature - he is a DNR supporter, that's why he said that.

Hey I'm a fan of DNR too.  You don't need to bash SIGT just because you like DNR, both can enjoy the "new algo" limelight.  Both good projects in my opinion.
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