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Quote from: rocoro on July 06, 2015, 07:38:59 AM

I'm guessing the way that could be linked is when you're using clearnet and you can see your IP on irc, could be linked through what's called "coincidental occurrence"
ie. watching what IP is active at certain times when transactions happen, plus if they are a seller they could guesstimate a link between IP and the transaction.

This is just my best guess of the process someone might use.
I thought I read somewhere that's how bitcoin transactions were being traced - coincidental occurrence / pattern analysis.

Okay, I get it. So VPN, Tor or I2P would solve this and obscure the real IP for those that care to hide it. I guess it is inevitable to use this technology for dark markets and people are going to want to hide their IP. I was hoping this would be an eBay buster, not a dark market but I don't see why it can't be used as both if we add filters.

I2P is built into this coin. I need to play around with it. I see code to support Tor but I don't think it is fully implemented except for a masternode setup. Maybe a built in VPN (like VPNcoin) would help?

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Quote from: philipvdlinde on July 06, 2015, 07:44:08 AM

congrats on reaching 1000 posts Tongue

Thanks lol.. too bad it had to start from arguing with a troll Tongue

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Quote from: rocoro on July 06, 2015, 07:38:59 AM

Quote from: CryptoVote on July 05, 2015, 11:14:16 PM

I am not sure how you would resolve a public key (likely stealth pubkey) to a real person. How does this compromise anonymity more than any other form of crypto?

First.. I apologize to everyone else (but the troll) for my anger, I shouldn't let trolls create anger, its what they want.

I'm guessing the way that could be linked is when you're using clearnet and you can see your IP on irc, could be linked through what's called "coincidental occurrence"
ie. watching what IP is active at certain times when transactions happen, plus if they are a seller they could guesstimate a link between IP and the transaction.

This is just my best guess of the process someone might use.

congrats on reaching 1000 posts Tongue

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Quote from: CryptoVote on July 05, 2015, 11:14:16 PM

I am not sure how you would resolve a public key (likely stealth pubkey) to a real person. How does this compromise anonymity more than any other form of crypto?

First.. I apologize to everyone else (but the troll Tulsene) for my anger, I shouldn't let trolls create anger, its what they want.

I'm guessing the way that could be linked is when you're using clearnet and you can see your IP on irc, could be linked through what's called "coincidental occurrence"
ie. watching what IP is active at certain times when transactions happen, plus if they are a seller they could guesstimate a link between IP and the transaction.

This is just my best guess of the process someone might use.
I thought I read somewhere that's how bitcoin transactions were being traced - coincidental occurrence / pattern analysis.

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Quote from: Tulsene on July 05, 2015, 10:01:35 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

The idea is IT DOESN'T MATTER - IF NONE OF THE DATA IS LINKED TO YOU

YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT

bold is like violence, it's happend when ppl have no argument

No people are getting angry because first of all, you are bringing in a lot of negativity. And second of all, you continuously fail to understand the point, thus pissing people off.
Going to put you on ignore now, and I advice others in this thread to do the same. It would be nice to have a moderated thread as well so that we can keep the disinformation and negativity out of our thread.

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Quote from: Tulsene on July 05, 2015, 07:45:55 PM

Seriously? OMG! I re-write the sentence and please read it carefully because you totally miss the point : No one want a market stored in the blockchain! You pretending to be annon and you want to store those data on a blockchain ...

Yah, it is not a good idea to store the buyer and/or seller's personal information on a public blockchain but that is not what is being done here.

All that is stored on the market blockchain are the item for sale, public key of buyer, public key of seller, date sold, and purchase price, NOT any personally identifiable information like buyer's name, shipping address, etc... I am not sure how you would resolve a public key (likely stealth pubkey) to a real person. How does this compromise anonymity more than any other form of crypto?

Vendors and buyers keep feeding the Amazon and eBay machines. Let's give them more money to use their insecure web sites. Do you know how many people hack into eBay, PayPal and Amazon accounts and steal personal information including money because of their lack of security? They still don't use 2FA.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

The idea is IT DOESN'T MATTER - IF NONE OF THE DATA IS LINKED TO YOU

YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT

bold is like violence, it's happend when ppl have no argument

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Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 08:31:50 PM

Don't quote the troll, he obviously doesn't understand i2p or how it can work with Sling.

it's not a problem of i2p, it's you think all data stored in the blockchain will be encrypted forever!

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Don't quote the troll, he obviously doesn't understand i2p or how it can work with Sling.

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Quote from: CryptoVote on July 05, 2015, 06:17:00 PM

Quote from: Tulsene on July 05, 2015, 04:07:15 PM

Did you read? No one want a market stored in the blockchain! You pretending to be annon and you want to store those data on a blockchain ... OMG you're a f***** genius!

Huh? If you were correct, then nobody would use cryptocurrency. When you send coins, you are storing a transaction on a public blockchain.

Seriously? OMG! I re-write the sentence and please read it carefully because you totally miss the point : No one want a market stored in the blockchain! You pretending to be annon and you want to store those data on a blockchain ...

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Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 07:08:35 PM

Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on July 05, 2015, 07:06:52 PM

Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 06:56:17 PM

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Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 06:47:13 PM

I wish we could get a moderated thread, like other coins.
Would be nice to have a place to communicate without all the crap.

If you're running through i2p then there is nothing linking you to data in the blockchain.
Don't listen to these people who don't want you to use this.

Honestly I could care less if people knew what I was selling on the SLING marketplace because if I decide to buy or sell things on it I don't plan on any of those things to be illegal Cheesy

So in all honesty I'm quite content with a in-wallet working marketplace

Cheers

I'm just stating that SLING has built-in support for i2p, so people have that as an option if they wish to use it.
Plus to quiet the false fud.

Oh I totally know what you were saying there mate

I was just stating that there is also a lot of people out there that could care less to remain anonymous with what they are selling or purchasing Wink

Cheers

Right, so its great to have an option to do either one Cheesy

Yes my friend you are absolutely correct Wink

lol

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Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on July 05, 2015, 07:06:52 PM

Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 06:56:17 PM

Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on July 05, 2015, 06:50:11 PM

Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 06:47:13 PM

I wish we could get a moderated thread, like other coins.
Would be nice to have a place to communicate without all the crap.

If you're running through i2p then there is nothing linking you to data in the blockchain.
Don't listen to these people who don't want you to use this.

Honestly I could care less if people knew what I was selling on the SLING marketplace because if I decide to buy or sell things on it I don't plan on any of those things to be illegal Cheesy

So in all honesty I'm quite content with a in-wallet working marketplace

Cheers

I'm just stating that SLING has built-in support for i2p, so people have that as an option if they wish to use it.
Plus to quiet the false fud.

Oh I totally know what you were saying there mate

I was just stating that there is also a lot of people out there that could care less to remain anonymous with what they are selling or purchasing Wink

Cheers

Right, so its great to have an option to do either one Cheesy

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Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 06:56:17 PM

Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on July 05, 2015, 06:50:11 PM

Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 06:47:13 PM

I wish we could get a moderated thread, like other coins.
Would be nice to have a place to communicate without all the crap.

If you're running through i2p then there is nothing linking you to data in the blockchain.
Don't listen to these people who don't want you to use this.

Honestly I could care less if people knew what I was selling on the SLING marketplace because if I decide to buy or sell things on it I don't plan on any of those things to be illegal Cheesy

So in all honesty I'm quite content with a in-wallet working marketplace

Cheers

I'm just stating that SLING has built-in support for i2p, so people have that as an option if they wish to use it.
Plus to quiet the false fud.

Oh I totally know what you were saying there mate

I was just stating that there is also a lot of people out there that could care less to remain anonymous with what they are selling or purchasing Wink

Cheers

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Quote from: NoobKidOnTheBlock on July 05, 2015, 06:50:11 PM

Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 06:47:13 PM

I wish we could get a moderated thread, like other coins.
Would be nice to have a place to communicate without all the crap.

If you're running through i2p then there is nothing linking you to data in the blockchain.
Don't listen to these people who don't want you to use this.

Honestly I could care less if people knew what I was selling on the SLING marketplace because if I decide to buy or sell things on it I don't plan on any of those things to be illegal Cheesy

So in all honesty I'm quite content with a in-wallet working marketplace

Cheers

I'm just stating that SLING has built-in support for i2p, so people have that as an option if they wish to use it.
Plus to quiet the false fud.

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Quote from: rocoro on July 05, 2015, 06:47:13 PM

I wish we could get a moderated thread, like other coins.
Would be nice to have a place to communicate without all the crap.

If you're running through i2p then there is nothing linking you to data in the blockchain.
Don't listen to these people who don't want you to use this.

Honestly I could care less if people knew what I was selling on the SLING marketplace because if I decide to buy or sell things on it I don't plan on any of those things to be illegal Cheesy

So in all honesty I'm quite content with a in-wallet working marketplace

Cheers

rocoro

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I wish we could get a moderated thread, like other coins.
Would be nice to have a place to communicate without all the crap.

If you're running through i2p then there is nothing linking you to data in the blockchain.
Don't listen to these people who don't want you to use this.

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Quote from: Tulsene on July 05, 2015, 04:07:15 PM

Did you read? No one want a market stored in the blockchain! You pretending to be annon and you want to store those data on a blockchain ... OMG you're a f***** genius!

Huh? If you were correct, then nobody would use cryptocurrency. When you send coins, you are storing a transaction on a public blockchain.

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Quote from: CryptoVote on July 05, 2015, 11:32:28 AM

Quote from: Tulsene on July 05, 2015, 11:07:27 AM

Like NXT marketplace? ... mmm tell me why NXT marketplace isn't used? Because it's store data in the blockchain!!!! lmao this coin is a genious trick of hype ridding

Like Sling, the NXT marketplace is lacking critical functionality that makes it usable (rating system, pictures, searching, stable currency, great UI). Once all the needed functionality has been added, I think people will start using these decentralized markets.

I know small vendors that pay eBay/PayPal/Amazon over $2,000 per month Angry

. The market takes most of the margin from the folks doing all the hard work!

Did you read? No one want a market stored in the blockchain! You pretending to be annon and you want to store those data on a blockchain ... OMG you're a f***** genius!

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Could anyone help me with setting up a masternode?
skype: philipvdlinde

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Well, I hope it is not, but why to buy? On promises?
That's the early 2014 game, promises means nothing, roadmap, if not fulfilled means nothing.

If things are delivered, I may miss opportunity you will say. But even if the new coin will go up 1000%, statistically it will be loss, if I will invest into new coins, as 99% of them is scam.

Just join the team of established coin with ideas.

P.S. - masternodes are not necessary for the coins, theirs only function is to fuel accumulation, so scamers may dump.
Same as HiPOS was developed only to ensure that dev and the team have most of the coins, as they know, when the ninja will be, so can rent cheap power on the start and mine most of POW, thus benefit from that POS.

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And the rubbish with block explorer and talks about good fair distribution? Well, Bittrex distribution tab confirmed the suspicion. It is no problem to pretend fair distribution with couple of wallets and multiple addresses.

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