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Topic: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) - page 136. (Read 676876 times)

legendary
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It is working now, it wasnt several hours before, maybe my fault.

But please explain me all this transactions to a private address from issuer adresses.

https://blockscan.com/address/18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE

And additional to that,  why is everdreamsoft holding the majority of cards and isnt offering it to the market from the beginning? Its legit to ask for and any person with brain should ask whats going on here,  is all legit? smells abit.

EverdreamSoft (EDS) is holding stock for themselves as the game hasn't even launched officially yet and the secondary market is still developing.
If they intend to sell more cards after the game is launched is their decision and they can do it at the price they want.
At the end of the day this is a game and EDS is a for profit company not an Open Source project so they are supposed to make money.

Also by having extra stock they could even sell card packs to people interested to get their collection kickstarted quickly, this is me speculating.
Cards can be used for promotions, giveaways, bounties, etc as it happened in the past.

This is the second trading card game for EverdreamSoft so they must know a thing or two on how to sell cards and how many to sell and when to maximise adoption and profits.

Also you can get free cards just by playing the game so no one is forced to buy cards if they don't want to.
However I'm a collector and I like to buy them.

As others mentioned here cards are sold on EDS own Merchants (Swapbots), there are 3 of them:


The above are the official places to buy cards right now from EDS.

Anywhere else, including swapbots, DEX, and other online stores are part of the secondary market.

Transactions going from the issuer address may go to EDS swapbot addresses and/or Partners and Premium Members' addresses who purchase them from EDS' swapbots.
Also EDS has been doing many collaborations with different projects and companies and in some cases some cards are allocated to these third parties.

You can't just come here after hundreds of people have been playing the game and purchasing cards for over a year and throw accusations left and right like you did.

Before you can even speak you need to do your own research, learn about how things work, then make your own judgement.
Or at least ask nicely: hey why is this happening? Why is it done this way?

Everyone can follow the blockchain, and thanks for that because that's the whole purpose of making blockchain-based game assets, as well as owners of these assets
can do as they please with them.

If you are really interested to learn more and follow SoG closely I recommend you join the community Slack: https://spellsofgenesis.signup.team/.

There are a lot of resources to get you started too:


Also https://sogassets.com is a great third-party resource for card stats of all kinds and their availability on the DEX and Swapbots.

The team can also expand on this further, I'm only sharing my opinion and what I know seen I have been following the project since its inception and love it. Smiley

Hope this answers your question.
legendary
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It is working now, it wasnt several hours before, maybe my fault.

But please explain me all this transactions to a private address from issuer adresses.

https://blockscan.com/address/18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE

And additional to that,  why is everdreamsoft holding the majority of cards and isnt offering it to the market from the beginning? Its legit to ask for and any person with brain should ask whats going on here,  is all legit? smells abit.

Not sure what the concern is, cards are assets. EDS isn't obligated to sell all of their assets...
legendary
Activity: 1447
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It is working now, it wasnt several hours before, maybe my fault.

But please explain me all this transactions to a private address from issuer adresses.

https://blockscan.com/address/18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE

And additional to that,  why is everdreamsoft holding the majority of cards and isnt offering it to the market from the beginning? Its legit to ask for and any person with brain should ask whats going on here,  is all legit? smells abit.
ebx
newbie
Activity: 27
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Now i see,  you try to hide all transactions on sogassets.com ,  realy?? are you sersious?

lets look to this transactions

https://blockscan.com/address?q=18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE

would you to see some more? its just an example of a address!

if you say its not shady, iam not sure, it smells realy shady, or not?

What are you talking about? What is hidden?

If I put that address in sogassets.com I see the same balances that show up on blockscan.

click on that

https://sogassets.com/top/SATOSHILITE  and than to this adress 18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE



It seems to look and work fine for me. Could you expand on what it is you're seeing that is wrong?

also a quick link to go directly to the address: https://sogassets.com/address=18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE
legendary
Activity: 1447
Merit: 1028
Now i see,  you try to hide all transactions on sogassets.com ,  realy?? are you sersious?

lets look to this transactions

https://blockscan.com/address?q=18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE

would you to see some more? its just an example of a address!

if you say its not shady, iam not sure, it smells realy shady, or not?

What are you talking about? What is hidden?

If I put that address in sogassets.com I see the same balances that show up on blockscan.

click on that

https://sogassets.com/top/SATOSHILITE  and than to this adress 18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE

ebx
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
Now i see,  you try to hide all transactions on sogassets.com ,  realy?? are you sersious?

lets look to this transactions

https://blockscan.com/address?q=18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE

would you to see some more? its just an example of a address!

if you say its not shady, iam not sure, it smells realy shady, or not?

What are you talking about? What is hidden?

If I put that address in sogassets.com I see the same balances that show up on blockscan.
legendary
Activity: 1447
Merit: 1028
Now i see,  you try to hide all transactions on sogassets.com ,  realy?? are you sersious? couse its not possible to follow addresses, it aborts after some clicks.

lets look to this transactions

https://blockscan.com/address?q=18HfRiUQaqJrJXxnqF3VmynG4XcbCHKxfE

would you to see some more? its just an example of a address!

if you say its not shady, iam not sure, it smells realy shady, or not?
ebx
newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
There are some few things i dont understand as a new investor/collector of Blockchain cards,,  why is sog bazaar (Everdreamsoft) stopping sales of cards like NEM Cards and holding back more than over 1100 for them selves (of 2000), there are more exampels like Dashcd or Coinoflite. Setting exorbitant high prices for remaining cards and backing the majority of cards doesnt seems legit for my understanding.

Making the price and holding back all cards seems like a sheme of rip off. This is a tightrope which operates everdreamsoft, possibly followed by unwanted!

Everdreamsoft is burning BCY and profit with highsells of backed cards, is that legit??




https://sogbazaar.com is not owned/operated by Everdreamsoft -- it is run by myself and markxmayer. We're the ones who put the cards at those prices, and we did so because some people seemed to be willing to pay it (and some have!).
Why does sogassets.com making advertising to your site? and where are you getting your cards which are offering?

Thanks for clearfiying.


We run https://sogassets.com too.

We are original backers/partners so we get our cards through the merchant swapbots as they come out (and also, as buy4crypto pointed out, occasionally on the DEx or via other means).

You can read through this post Everdreamsoft made when they transitioned to the "merchant" swapbot system which I think will answer a lot of your questions: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14311585
legendary
Activity: 1447
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There are some few things i dont understand as a new investor/collector of Blockchain cards,,  why is sog bazaar (Everdreamsoft) stopping sales of cards like NEM Cards and holding back more than over 1100 for them selves (of 2000), there are more exampels like Dashcd or Coinoflite. Setting exorbitant high prices for remaining cards and backing the majority of cards doesnt seems legit for my understanding.

Making the price and holding back all cards seems like a sheme of rip off. This is a tightrope which operates everdreamsoft, possibly followed by unwanted!

Everdreamsoft is burning BCY and profit with highsells of backed cards, is that legit??




https://sogbazaar.com is not owned/operated by Everdreamsoft -- it is run by myself and markxmayer. We're the ones who put the cards at those prices, and we did so because some people seemed to be willing to pay it (and some have!).
Why does sogassets.com making advertising to your site? and where are you getting your cards which are offerd?

Thanks for clearfiying.


Those may be players who have purchased cards from swap bots or the DEX (Decentralized exchange) on the Counterparty platform. Still learning myself but nobody is doing anything shady here. This project has been in development for 19 months now since BitCrystals have been launched. These guys have kept with it and are about to put out a much more detailed game from the beta they displayed over the past few months.

Iam sorry, but this is still not answering any of my questions!. Where the hell is the first marketplace? is it counterparty? if yes than named please, or everdreamsoft should advertise to. Swapbot marketplace is much higher in price than counterparty plattform,, so i would be right to assume that counterparty is the first marketplace?

If you would like to see more contributers, than you should more clearly advise where cards could be bought first. For me atm, it seems like a "friendly services" right now. And why are they holding back such a big amount of cards?!!.

Please clarify these things, some of these seems strange.
sr. member
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freecrypto.top
There are some few things i dont understand as a new investor/collector of Blockchain cards,,  why is sog bazaar (Everdreamsoft) stopping sales of cards like NEM Cards and holding back more than over 1100 for them selves (of 2000), there are more exampels like Dashcd or Coinoflite. Setting exorbitant high prices for remaining cards and backing the majority of cards doesnt seems legit for my understanding.

Making the price and holding back all cards seems like a sheme of rip off. This is a tightrope which operates everdreamsoft, possibly followed by unwanted!

Everdreamsoft is burning BCY and profit with highsells of backed cards, is that legit??




https://sogbazaar.com is not owned/operated by Everdreamsoft -- it is run by myself and markxmayer. We're the ones who put the cards at those prices, and we did so because some people seemed to be willing to pay it (and some have!).
Why does sogassets.com making advertising to your site? and where are you getting your cards which are offerd?

Thanks for clearfiying.


Those may be players who have purchased cards from swap bots or the DEX (Decentralized exchange) on the Counterparty platform. Still learning myself but nobody is doing anything shady here. This project has been in development for 19 months now since BitCrystals have been launched. These guys have kept with it and are about to put out a much more detailed game from the beta they displayed over the past few months.
legendary
Activity: 1447
Merit: 1028
There are some few things i dont understand as a new investor/collector of Blockchain cards,,  why is sog bazaar (Everdreamsoft) stopping sales of cards like NEM Cards and holding back more than over 1100 for them selves (of 2000), there are more exampels like Dashcd or Coinoflite. Setting exorbitant high prices for remaining cards and backing the majority of cards doesnt seems legit for my understanding.

Making the price and holding back all cards seems like a sheme of rip off. This is a tightrope which operates everdreamsoft, possibly followed by unwanted!

Everdreamsoft is burning BCY and profit with highsells of backed cards, is that legit??




https://sogbazaar.com is not owned/operated by Everdreamsoft -- it is run by myself and markxmayer. We're the ones who put the cards at those prices, and we did so because some people seemed to be willing to pay it (and some have!).
Why does sogassets.com making advertising to your site? and where are you getting your cards which are offering?

Thanks for clearfiying.
legendary
Activity: 1447
Merit: 1028
There are some few things i dont understand as a new investor/collector of Blockchain cards,,  why is sog bazaar (Everdreamsoft) stopping sales of cards like NEM Cards and holding back more than over 1100 for them selves (of 2000), there are more exampels like Dashcd or Coinoflite. Setting exorbitant high prices for remaining cards and backing the majority of cards doesnt seems legit for my understanding.

Making the price and holding back all cards seems like a sheme of rip off. This is a tightrope which operates everdreamsoft, possibly followed by unwanted!

Everdreamsoft is burning BCY and profit with highsells of backed cards, is that legit??




They create an asset with value in the game they created. All seems legit to me. But any clarity on the subject would be welcome.

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AFAIK Everdreamsoft only sells cards on the merchant swapbots.

Even that cant answer my quesition.


Indeed!, any enlightenment would be welcome, anybody is able to see all transactions on the blockchain (and all first Transactions of cards). There are a lot of things i dont realy understand. Many blockchain cards in a bigger amount are moved to private adresses, i assume this are some private adresses from company members. Everdreamsoft should know that all transactions are visible, if they try to profit in any private way than it will follow them and any other legit investor in a realy bad way for all time. It is realy obviously on the blockchain transaction list,that some few people try to profit in a private way, and everdreamsoft itself with holding cards.
ebx
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There are some few things i dont understand as a new investor/collector of Blockchain cards,,  why is sog bazaar (Everdreamsoft) stopping sales of cards like NEM Cards and holding back more than over 1100 for them selves (of 2000), there are more exampels like Dashcd or Coinoflite. Setting exorbitant high prices for remaining cards and backing the majority of cards doesnt seems legit for my understanding.

Making the price and holding back all cards seems like a sheme of rip off. This is a tightrope which operates everdreamsoft, possibly followed by unwanted!

Everdreamsoft is burning BCY and profit with highsells of backed cards, is that legit??




https://sogbazaar.com is not owned/operated by Everdreamsoft -- it is run by myself and markxmayer. We're the ones who put the cards at those prices, and we did so because some people seemed to be willing to pay it (and some have!). There is a reason to the prices based on rarity, however, and the prices change frequently as we decide to.

AFAIK Everdreamsoft only sells cards on the merchant swapbots.

You'll have to let them answer as to why they hold the amount back for themselves that they do, though.
sr. member
Activity: 434
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freecrypto.top
There are some few things i dont understand as a new investor/collector of Blockchain cards,,  why is sog bazaar (Everdreamsoft) stopping sales of cards like NEM Cards and holding back more than over 1100 for them selves (of 2000), there are more exampels like Dashcd or Coinoflite. Setting exorbitant high prices for remaining cards and backing the majority of cards doesnt seems legit for my understanding.

Making the price and holding back all cards seems like a sheme of rip off. This is a tightrope which operates everdreamsoft, possibly followed by unwanted!

Everdreamsoft is burning BCY and profit with highsells of backed cards, is that legit??




They create an asset with value in the game they created. All seems legit to me. But any clarity on the subject would be welcome.
legendary
Activity: 1447
Merit: 1028
There are some few things i dont understand as a new investor/collector of Blockchain cards,,  why is sog bazaar (Everdreamsoft) stopping sales of cards like NEM Cards and holding back more than over 1100 for them selves (of 2000), there are more exampels like Dashcd or Coinoflite. Setting exorbitant high prices for remaining cards and backing the majority of cards doesnt seems legit for my understanding.

Making the price and holding back all cards seems like a sheme of rip off. This is a tightrope which operates everdreamsoft, possibly followed by unwanted!

Everdreamsoft is burning BCY and profit with highsells of backed cards, is that legit??


legendary
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Spells of Genesis Partner Black for sale.  PM me if interested.

More info on Partner Levels:

http://spellsofgenesis.tumblr.com/post/133139043265/cards-distribution-and-stores-system
member
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hi BCY dev. Are you guys also thinking of working together with Jewels team? I am hoping that both of this great project can help each other to make gaming coin more vibrant and exciting. Great that I also invested here too  Grin  Gaming coin becoming more interesting this year YEAYY. i predicted 2017 is the year of gaming coin. Many coin till now concentrate on financial world but less on gaming. 
legendary
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Soft launch for the web version (WebGL) should sometime this month.

What about the other game FoW or whatever it is. Isn't that launching soon too? Or is it currently in a development stage?

What i heard was only September.  Maybe you wil find more infos in their webpage: http://fowtcg.com/

I remembered they have World championship in Japan this month.
sr. member
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freecrypto.top
Soft launch for the web version (WebGL) should sometime this month.

What about the other game FoW or whatever it is. Isn't that launching soon too? Or is it currently in a development stage?
legendary
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Soft launch for the web version (WebGL) should sometime this month.
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