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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 276. (Read 1260290 times)

legendary
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Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service?

Please god no.

Going by what has evolved in the rest of the 'cloud mining' market...

i agree. They should stick with building and selling hardware, it's what SP-Tech are good at.

Absolutely. The day SP-Tech do the cloud scam will be the day I stop doing business with them.

The problem for Spondoolies is that their main competitors are all offering cloud mining now and due to the extra costs of delivery, PSUs and electricity, cloud mining offers a better chance of making a profit from mining. Now, some of you guys clearly don't mind paying more to earn less but most people are in it for the money. Buying miners is simply no longer competitive for the majority of people.

Look at the SP20 for example. At 1152 W, you'd have the following costs for electricity:

At 0.15 $/kWh, daily electricity costs would be 1.152 kW * 24 h * $0.15 = $4.1472 or $0.00244 per Gh/s per day.
At 0.10 $/kWh, daily electricity costs would be 1.152 kW * 24 h * $0.10 = $2.7648 or $0.00163 per Gh/s per day.
At 0.05 $/kWh, daily electricity costs would be 1.152 kW * 24 h * $0.05 = $1.3824 or $0.00081 per Gh/s per day.

So what about having the SP20 hosted in a data centre? Toomin's seems to be a popular choice. For 12 months hosting, you pay $80 per kW per month. That works out to $0.00179 per Gh/s per day.

AMHash's maintenance fee is $0.00163 per Gh/s per day which is cheaper than having an SP20 hosted at Toomin's and the same as running an SP20 at 0.1 $/kWh. An SP20 costs $795 excluding shipping, which works out to $0.468 per Gh/s. That's equivalent to buying AMHash at an exchange rate of 389.71 $/BTC. For me, I'd have to add on $115 for shipping and $200 for a PSU, taking the total upfront cost to $1110, which works out to be $0.653 per Gh/s. That's equivalent to buying AMHash at 544.12 $/BTC. On top of that would be electricity costs of 0.24 $/kWh or $0.00390 per Gh/s per day.

Now, let's say Spondoolies were offering Gh/s contracts for 0.0012 BTC with a maintenance fee of $0.001 per Gh/s per day, would you guys honestly still prefer to buy an SP20? Do you honestly think the majority of people would?

Either Spondoolies starts offering cloud mining or it'll remain uncompetitive and sales will shrink accordingly.
hero member
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Is the startup asic voltage also the minimum voltage for temperature scaling.. or can it go lower than that?
It can go lower than the initial value.
sr. member
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Good price and good power consumption of SP20 - imho it's better then S4 and Prisma
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service or own hosting service? I had bad experience with one of you hosting-partners, so don't want to repeat a mistake. Shipping fees and electricity price make me sad Sad


Hashplex has my Spondoolies currently, they have been fantastic. Great support and very quick to fix a problem.
sr. member
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Good price and good power consumption of SP20 - imho it's better then S4 and Prisma
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service or own hosting service? I had bad experience with one of you hosting-partners, so don't want to repeat a mistake. Shipping fees and electricity price make me sad Sad


with whom have you had bad experience?

I would highly recommend toomim;  Very knowledgeable & customer oriented

sr. member
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Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service?

Please god no.

Going by what has evolved in the rest of the 'cloud mining' market...

i agree. They should stick with building and selling hardware, it's what SP-Tech are good at.

the only worth while cloud is renting and point it were you want.  nicehash + westhash  and a few other companies come to mind.  standard cloud mining is meh at best.

i'd never heard of either of those companies but the way i see it, if I cannot switch pools to wherever i want to mine, it's not a real cloud mining service. I rent my SP10's on betarigs, as well as purchase p2p rentals through the same website, and find that (when i price them competitively) they are the most rented rigs. people like to know what exactly what they are spending their money on, and IMHO, quality will win everytime. When i go looking for rigs to rent, i will always choose an available SP-Tech rig over any other and am content to pay a premium for it because I know that it will be stable and reliable and i'll get exactly what I pay for.

anyway, going off topic a bit, i'm going to check out those companies you mention.

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service?

Please god no.

Going by what has evolved in the rest of the 'cloud mining' market...

i agree. They should stick with building and selling hardware, it's what SP-Tech are good at.

the only worth while cloud is renting and point it were you want.  nicehash + westhash  and a few other companies come to mind.  standard cloud mining is meh at best.
hero member
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service?

Please god no.

Going by what has evolved in the rest of the 'cloud mining' market...

i agree. They should stick with building and selling hardware, it's what SP-Tech are good at.

Absolutely. The day SP-Tech do the cloud scam will be the day I stop doing business with them.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service?

Please god no.

Going by what has evolved in the rest of the 'cloud mining' market...

i agree. They should stick with building and selling hardware, it's what SP-Tech are good at.
legendary
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Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service?

Please god no.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
Good price and good power consumption of SP20 - imho it's better then S4 and Prisma
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service or own hosting service? I had bad experience with one of you hosting-partners, so don't want to repeat a mistake. Shipping fees and electricity price make me sad Sad



it is way better then the prisma .  

  the best i got my prisma to do on under clock was 1000 watts and 1300gh  

 so far the  sp20 has done 747 watts and 1353gh on under clock  

if you do the underclock and set fan to 40 it is not as noisy as the prisma.
legendary
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My SP20 came with firmware v2.5.26 but I see there is a newer v2.5.27 - what does the update address & is it worth updating?

Peace  Smiley

PS: Excellent piece of kit these SP20's - well done SP-Tech.

Anyone? Nobody using this version?

Yes.  I'm not sure of difference.   Both run great.
hero member
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
My SP20 came with firmware v2.5.26 but I see there is a newer v2.5.27 - what does the update address & is it worth updating?

Peace  Smiley

PS: Excellent piece of kit these SP20's - well done SP-Tech.

Anyone? Nobody using this version?
sr. member
Activity: 258
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Good price and good power consumption of SP20 - imho it's better then S4 and Prisma
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service or own hosting service? I had bad experience with one of you hosting-partners, so don't want to repeat a mistake. Shipping fees and electricity price make me sad Sad


with whom have you had bad experience?
sr. member
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my SP20 is on a holiday  Cheesy Cheesy i think because it's new it wants to see the world.
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
Hi All
We have now new support team.
You can see them online as spond.support.1 (Sonya) and spond.support.2 (Michael).
They accept direct Skype calls between 14:00-16:00 and 19:00-21:00 Israel time.


You can also send mail like always, to [email protected].

If they can not help, they will redirect you to me.


Well, got up early today to talk to support. It's 14:37 Jerusalem time, nobody there.

Now I gotta go to work.

I get off work too late to talk to them at 1900 hours...some I'm screwed for another week.



I feel your pain, they've been ignoring my emails for 3 days now. Customer support is non-existent.
What's your order# and support ticket# ?

Guy

I spoke with Michael I think really late Friday night. He said he was going to look into an RMA, or maybe a board replacement,  as he tapped into my SP20, and couldn't get the stuck ASIC #4 to work at all.

My SP20 arrived early November and the order # was 2754. I don't have a ticket support number.

Oh, thanks for the T-shirt, by the way.

We'll RMA the unit, contact support@

Guy
member
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Good price and good power consumption of SP20 - imho it's better then S4 and Prisma
Guys, do you plan to open cloud mining service or own hosting service? I had bad experience with one of you hosting-partners, so don't want to repeat a mistake. Shipping fees and electricity price make me sad Sad
hero member
Activity: 529
Merit: 501
Hi All
We have now new support team.
You can see them online as spond.support.1 (Sonya) and spond.support.2 (Michael).
They accept direct Skype calls between 14:00-16:00 and 19:00-21:00 Israel time.


You can also send mail like always, to [email protected].

If they can not help, they will redirect you to me.


Well, got up early today to talk to support. It's 14:37 Jerusalem time, nobody there.

Now I gotta go to work.

I get off work too late to talk to them at 1900 hours...some I'm screwed for another week.



I feel your pain, they've been ignoring my emails for 3 days now. Customer support is non-existent.
What's your order# and support ticket# ?

Guy

I spoke with Michael I think really late Friday night. He said he was going to look into an RMA, or maybe a board replacement,  as he tapped into my SP20, and couldn't get the stuck ASIC #4 to work at all.

My SP20 arrived early November and the order # was 2754. I don't have a ticket support number.

Oh, thanks for the T-shirt, by the way.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Is there anyway to cut the fan speed to less than 40?  I plan on under clocking and am interested in reducing noise.

edit /etc/mg_custom_rate via ssh

looks like this is a new file


miner-FL1444045011# ls mg* -1
mg_custom_mode
mg_custom_mode_sp20
mg_custom_mode_sp30
mg_disabled_asics
mg_disabled_asics_sp20
mg_disabled_asics_sp30
mg_generic_psu
mg_psu_limit
mg_try_12v_fix
mg_work_mode
miner-FL1444045011#

What is the format to include the 30% fan rate?


My bad. Check mg_custom_mode. It's human readable.

Edit:
Just note that under very low fan settings you might stress the back side of the miner and it can cause termal shutdown.  Theoretically it should work since the system scales on both dc2dc and asic temperature. be careful when touching the back side of the miner - it can become very hot


do you mean this set of numbers?


Temp Front / Back T,B
38 °C / [b/74,71 °C[/b]

if so what is low enough?

right now my room temps are very high due to 74f temps in Howell NJ USA
legendary
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due to the constant overheating during noon hours since upgrading to 2.5.12 i have lowered max watts & max volts on my sp30.

the hash rate on the gui hardly changed but the pool shows a significant loss (500-700GH)

if im not mistaken, 2.5.12 was specifically tailored to the problem/s associated with near zero temps.

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