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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 422. (Read 1260354 times)

legendary
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Yeah this whom thing has become a disaster for August GB customers the funny thing is for the large scale and well funded clients like jtoomin, collider and roadstress its been great as they keep telling , of course it was you got to mine pretty much all Aug at 19k diff, by the time we get our miners running in Sept diff wil be near 30k.

So the $500 we saved per machine has already gone poof, you can't tell me if we knew we would get our boxes tho late we would have signed up for this shit.

Even funnier that for all sp tech claims the are all for decentralization and fair mining the screw the little guy just like everyone else.

Plenty of people, myself included, tried to warn GB participants of this (and other present concerns).  However, if you recall it was a self-moderated thread by Roadstress and he did a wonderful job in silencing anyone who raised these concerns.

That aside, you pre-ordered.  You assumed any and all risks associated with pre-orders, some of which have become reality.  I'd recommend just accepting the situation for the short term and never making the preorder mistake again.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
To be honest , I did not expect from you SP-Tech to wait until the last day of August to start shipping our Gb.


Yeah this whom thing has become a disaster for August GB customers the funny thing is for the large scale and well funded clients like jtoomin, collider and roadstress its been great as they keep telling , of course it was you got to mine pretty much all Aug at 19k diff, by the time we get our miners running in Sept diff wil be near 30k.

So the $500 we saved per machine has already gone poof, you can't tell me if we knew we would get our boxes tho late we would have signed up for this shit.

Even funnier that for all sp tech claims the are all for decentralization and fair mining the screw the little guy just like everyone else.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
You can twist reality to fit your rhetoric as much as you want but it won't give the SP30 a better chance at ROI, only a ~$1500 refund or free ~2TH will.

My math shows me around half those numbers.
hero member
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To be honest , I did not expect from you SP-Tech to wait until the last day of August to start shipping our Gb.

legendary
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Seems like a BFL/KNC move that would cause an outrage.

With what money will their customers spend on next gen hardware when they will not ROI with their current sp30's?

I haven't put any money out of my pocket this year yet I have acquired numerous miners and I plan to buy more. It's also true that I have only cashed out around 60% of my initial investment, but I can cover the rest at any time with bitcoins. I am sure that the SP30s will help me keep acquiring more hashpower without any fiat payments from me.

this story reminds me of the following anecdote:

"Potential client comes to a broker and asks why he should invest. Broker starts showing his yachts and residences.
Pissed off potential client says: "...and where are the customers' yachts?"
hero member
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Seems like a BFL/KNC move that would cause an outrage.

With what money will their customers spend on next gen hardware when they will not ROI with their current sp30's?

I haven't put any money out of my pocket this year yet I have acquired numerous miners and I plan to buy more. It's also true that I have only cashed out around 60% of my initial investment, but I can cover the rest at any time with bitcoins. I am sure that the SP30s will help me keep acquiring more hashpower without any fiat payments from me.

So?

Who cares what currency you paid and how you made that money?

What about your customers who aren't as fortunate as you?

You can twist reality to fit your rhetoric as much as you want but it won't give the SP30 a better chance at ROI, only a ~$1500 refund or free ~2TH will.
legendary
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Seems like a BFL/KNC move that would cause an outrage.

With what money will their customers spend on next gen hardware when they will not ROI with their current sp30's?

I haven't put any money out of my pocket this year yet I have acquired numerous miners and I plan to buy more. It's also true that I have only cashed out around 60% of my initial investment, but I can cover the rest at any time with bitcoins. I am sure that the SP30s will help me keep acquiring more hashpower without any fiat payments from me.
hero member
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You know, this isn't exactly a bad idea.

All customers who bought SP30 would like to have best hashing hardware possible.  Spondoolies has lots of expertise and little cash.  Why ask them for cash?  They will skimp about trying to distribute a cash refund.  A cash refund will cause them to fire some staff and cut some capacity which could otherwise be converted into better future products.

What does Spondoolies have plenty of?  Talent.  Let them pay their shortcomings with something they have loads of.  This way, they won't try to short anyone.  They may even feel bad and give generously.  They won't be giving cash generously.  

So, compensation is probably better given in the form of future product rather than cash. 

If I had to guess, I'd say you're the only one who thinks this way.

Seems like a BFL/KNC move that would cause an outrage.

With what money will their customers spend on next gen hardware when they will not ROI with their current sp30's?
newbie
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Most of the rest of the staff is busy with issues related to recently beginning shipping, like handling support requests, fixing newly discovered issues with the firmware, etc.

I think most of the staff is working on the SP50.  Cash refunds helps no one.  The only thing which will make Spondoolies customers get back on track is an insane deal and early arrival of the new machine.  I'll take two please.

Spondoolies should spend all the compensation funds getting the SP50 out earlier and more efficient.  Why give cash back?  Nobody wants cash.  They want hashing.  Isn't that clear?  

Please, Spondoolies, don't send any money back.  That does us no good at all.  We don't want money - we want hashing.  That is why we came to you in the first place.  Can't you give the people what they want?

You know, this isn't exactly a bad idea. 

All customers who bought SP30 would like to have best hashing hardware possible.  Spondoolies has lots of expertise and little cash.  Why ask them for cash?  They will skimp about trying to distribute a cash refund.  A cash refund will cause them to fire some staff and cut some capacity which could otherwise be converted into better future products. 

What does Spondoolies have plenty of?  Talent.  Let them pay their shortcomings with something they have loads of.  This way, they won't try to short anyone.  They may even feel bad and give generously.  They won't be giving cash generously. 

So, compensation is probably better given in the form of future product rather than cash. 
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
122648-001 Compaq 220/ 240V Power Distribution Unit- High Voltage PDU

with 2 PDU 15 amp cables on a  220v 40 amp circuit should be enough?

To run SP31 in my garage?


Setup should work.  That PDU will just cover you.
legendary
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legendary
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Most of the rest of the staff is busy with issues related to recently beginning shipping, like handling support requests, fixing newly discovered issues with the firmware, etc.

I think most of the staff is working on the SP50.  Cash refunds helps no one.  The only thing which will make Spondoolies customers get back on track is an insane deal and early arrival of the new machine.  I'll take two please.

Spondoolies should spend all the compensation funds getting the SP50 out earlier and more efficient.  Why give cash back?  Nobody wants cash.  They want hashing.  Isn't that clear?  

Please, Spondoolies, don't send any money back.  That does us no good at all.  We don't want money - we want hashing.  That is why we came to you in the first place.  Can't you give the people what they want?
member
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122648-001 Compaq 220/ 240V Power Distribution Unit- High Voltage PDU

with 2 PDU 15 amp cables on a  220v 40 amp circuit should be enough?

To run SP31 in my garage?




donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
I believe I was clear enough from our first announcement.

Remind me, have you bought a miner from us ?
legendary
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No need to be a genius to figure out the compensation. It was stated in my statement: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/14979953-introducing-the-sp30
Basically, $ refund for the missing GH/s per the $/GHs ratio or a coupon.

Guy

So you're refusing to compensate for the missing J/GH?
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
No need to be a genius to figure out the compensation. It was stated in my statement: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/14979953-introducing-the-sp30
Basically, $ refund for the missing GH/s per the $/GHs ratio or a coupon.

Guy
grn
sr. member
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Your frustration is acknowledged. You underestimate the amount of work involved but I don't want to argue about it.
The GB miners will be shipped during next week.
You and all the SP30 customers will be contacted and offered the relevant compensation choices.

Guy

Some of your business decisions are quite impressive. Don't disclose compensation until after the under performing product has shipped. Wise move!
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
I'm sorry but this is really ludicrous excuse.
What does it have to do with it???
Producing miners is a manual process not intellectual... I don't really see the logic here.

It appears that Katya handles a lot of the shipping for Spondoolies. She also handles most of the sales and accounting stuff. She will probably be the person who contacts you about compensation options. She's busy making sure orders make it out the door right now in the correct order.

Most of the rest of the staff is busy with issues related to recently beginning shipping, like handling support requests, fixing newly discovered issues with the firmware, etc.
Correct. We've augmented our customer support. Barbara will contact the customers next week.
hero member
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Could you post a link to jtoomim website, please?
I'd like to find out more info

http://toom.im
hero member
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I'm sorry but this is really ludicrous excuse.
What does it have to do with it???
Producing miners is a manual process not intellectual... I don't really see the logic here.

It appears that Katya handles a lot of the shipping for Spondoolies. She also handles most of the sales and accounting stuff. She will probably be the person who contacts you about compensation options. She's busy making sure orders make it out the door right now in the correct order.

Most of the rest of the staff is busy with issues related to recently beginning shipping, like handling support requests, fixing newly discovered issues with the firmware, etc.
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