[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 424.

BitCoin Operated Boy

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 11:10:01 PM

Quote from: grn on August 20, 2014, 11:06:27 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 10:30:27 PM

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

You are forgetting to add in the hosting costs $400/month

Not even in Advania I'm not paying $400/month. My October SP31 will be hosted with jtoomim where I will pay ~$240/month.

Could you post a link to jtoomim website, please?
I'd like to find out more info

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 11:10:01 PM

Quote from: grn on August 20, 2014, 11:06:27 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 10:30:27 PM

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

You are forgetting to add in the hosting costs $400/month

Not even in Advania I'm not paying $400/month. My October SP31 will be hosted with jtoomim where I will pay ~$240/month.

I wish I'd seen his offer before the spondoolies DC became available. It's a much better deal even with one month free hosting in the S-T offer. But it's too late to change now as I already paid.

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 21, 2014, 12:04:29 AM

Quote from: dropt on August 20, 2014, 11:56:00 PM

You assume a lot of things, and so far your track record isn't that great...

I'm also assuming that you will not have 100% uptime with over 12 S3s

Edit: Usually my assumptions are based on the past facts, not on guesses.

Perhaps you just are not technically competent to run 12 of something as simple as the S3

(I couldn't resist)... Seriously both pieces of hardware are solid and arguing this aspect of the conversation is silly..

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Quote from: Marvell1 on August 20, 2014, 04:47:38 PM

Quote from: BitCoin Operated Boy on August 20, 2014, 03:51:34 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on August 20, 2014, 02:55:51 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

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But +18.5 BTC for RoadStress
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Most of it was contributed for good causes. Go find the GB and read the OP

I'm not saying anything... He earned it

Btw, wouldn't' it be fair to wait with offering SP31 for sale until you release compenstion offers so we would have a chance to calculate your compensation against possible buy of SP31?
Atm, I don't know if I should invest in SP31 or not, becasue I have got no clue what the compensation is going to include...

Also, me and many have not even had a chance to earn anything yet from my GB units to invest in SP31...

Yeah no shit, we should have got first dibs on any October hardware this is getting ridiculous
I didn't even know Oct hardware was up for sale so even if we are able to put any btc together we will be again at the back of the bus ....niiiice

I'm anticipating S-T answer to this, please...

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Quote from: bitcoiner23 on August 21, 2014, 03:18:34 AM

So you didn't deliver 30 orders in 2 weeks? Srsly?

It was stated that the 50 orders between the delivered order and the GB orders have a lot of units ordered. They have delivered a lot of units in these 2 weeks.

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Another work-week soon is over for ST and the groupbuy still don't mine and i have no email. I'm really disappointed! 2 Weeks ago order no #1125 started mining and 117x don't after 2 weeks? It's only +50 order numbers, with normally are only 1/2 of paid orders! (you can check if you enter a # on http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-one-month-hosting ). So you didn't deliver 30 orders in 2 weeks? Srsly?

Only real chance to ROI is finding a solo block or the diff falling under 7% increase. Otherwise all group buy members paid ~2000USD for this "deal". Sad but true, for me ST is the new KnC and i'm finally out of this mining business :/

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Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

... There is also a chance that the SP31 performs like SP30 should have at ~6.6TH but I'd guess it's more likely it ends up closer to 4.5TH ...

Our commitment and guarantee is for 5.5 TH/s +- 5% with 3KW at the wall. It will probably preform better with the production tweaking we're doing.
By guarantee I mean that we'll compensate for missing hash-rate by the $/GHs ratio of the deal.

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Quote from: MrTeal on August 20, 2014, 11:50:45 PM

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According to the site, they ship second half of October.
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp31-yukon-october-batch-1
Is there a reason to think they'll ship before that?

It depends on the dates we'll receive the ASICs lots. We're trying to pull-in the dates, but we didn't get a commitment yet.
We commit to the 2nd half of October. It might be before if we'll be able to get the ASICs before.

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 21, 2014, 12:04:29 AM

Quote from: dropt on August 20, 2014, 11:56:00 PM

You assume a lot of things, and so far your track record isn't that great...

I'm also assuming that you will not have 100% uptime with over 12 S3s

100% probably not, but I don't see why extremely close to that isn't possible. I have 11 S1s that are currently sitting at around the same uptime (27d 5h 2m 48s) since that's when I last messed with my electrical setup. Bitmain makes a pretty reliable product once it's set up. The S2 had issues when I first got it, but other than that it's been great too.

That being said, I wouldn't bet on an S3 hashing by Sept 14th. They claim Sept 20th, and while they might start shipping on the 11th I wouldn't bet on it.

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Quote from: dropt on August 20, 2014, 11:56:00 PM

You assume a lot of things, and so far your track record isn't that great...

I'm also assuming that you will not have 100% uptime with over 12 S3s

Edit: Usually my assumptions are based on the past facts, not on guesses.

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 11:53:21 PM

Didn't even see that. I assumed that Batch 1 will stat before 15. But the misleading is still there.

You assume a lot of things, and so far your track record isn't that great...

Quote

The S3 will not hash on 14 September.

Oh look, another assumption!

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Quote from: MrTeal on August 20, 2014, 11:50:45 PM

According to the site, they ship second half of October.
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp31-yukon-october-batch-1
Is there a reason to think they'll ship before that?

Didn't even see that. I assumed that Batch 1 will stat before 15. But the misleading is still there. The S3 will not hash on 14 September.

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 11:34:56 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 11:25:11 PM

S3+

SP31

As usual you are misleading. You are assuming that you will start hashing with all S3s on 14.09 while the SP31 starts hashing on 20.10. That is wrong and your whole calculations are way off. SP-Tech never shipped first batch after 15th of the month.

According to the site, they ship second half of October.
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp31-yukon-october-batch-1
Is there a reason to think they'll ship before that?

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Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 11:25:11 PM

S3+

SP31

As usual you are misleading. You are assuming that you will start hashing with all S3s on 14.09 while the SP31 starts hashing on 20.10. That is wrong and your whole calculations are way off. SP-Tech never shipped first batch after 15th of the month.

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Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 11:25:11 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 10:30:27 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

S3+ ROI: 180 days

SP31 ROI: 360 days

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

Care to share your projections which make the SP31 a winner? I can't find any scenario where that turns out to be the case.

If you buy 5.5TH worth of S3's you will mine ~$1200 worth of bitcoins before SP31's even begin shipping. 5.5TH worth of S3's would use about 4200W or 1200W more than an SP31.

At $0.1/kwh it would take 416 days of mining before the SP31 becomes a better deal.

As for the S3's making close to nothing after ROI, check again. (Changed it to 5.5TH worth of S3's)

S3+

SP31

Are any miners a "winner" if ROI is the only focus?

Do these posts not belong in Mining Speculation?

More info on shipping... compensation... and October deliver please less on speculation of earnings. We get it. We got it the first time. The second time... and when the price of BTC falls we get to hear it again.

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 10:30:27 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

S3+ ROI: 180 days

SP31 ROI: 360 days

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

Care to share your projections which make the SP31 a winner? I can't find any scenario where that turns out to be the case.

If you buy 5.5TH worth of S3's you will mine ~$1200 worth of bitcoins before SP31's even begin shipping. 5.5TH worth of S3's would use about 4200W or 1200W more than an SP31.

At $0.1/kwh it would take 416 days of mining before the SP31 becomes a better deal.

As for the S3's making close to nothing after ROI, check again. (Changed it to 5.5TH worth of S3's)

S3+

SP31

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Quote from: grn on August 20, 2014, 11:06:27 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 10:30:27 PM

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

You are forgetting to add in the hosting costs $400/month

Not even in Advania I'm not paying $400/month. My October SP31 will be hosted with jtoomim where I will pay ~$240/month.

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 10:30:27 PM

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

You are forgetting to add in the hosting costs $400/month

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Quote from: RawDog on August 20, 2014, 04:01:12 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 03:47:09 PM

Just found about http://www.rigwarz.com/ My only know-how comes from the forum, but it seems that I found an unbiased opinion about the SP30. It seems that it's doing very good besides all the trolls whining. Only 2 days ROI difference between S3 and SP30. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Edit: Well if you add the 12 PSU cost I think that the SP30 might achieve ROI just a little faster than the S3s. Math is nice! Crypto is uber!

RigWarz clearly says .67 while you say .578. Your trickery, slant and bullshit at every turn is boring.

Read 10x time the below highlighted part:

Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 12:30:09 PM

Quote from: dplusf on August 20, 2014, 02:47:46 AM

so anybody have any information about underclocking and extending the sp30 lifetime in light of the giant difficulty increases?

Max voltage 0.67 (can't set it lower from the web GUI) and I'm getting 3.62Th/s and 0.58W/GH!

So 0.58W/Gh is by underclocking, not normal operation. Tard.

Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

S3+ ROI: 180 days

SP31 ROI: 360 days

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

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Clueless!

Quote from: kendog77 on August 20, 2014, 04:02:49 PM

I really want a SP31, and agree that it is far and away the best miner on the market right now, but just can't get over that $4000 price with a two month lead time.

Come on Spondoolies, please make it easier for me to be a repeat customer!

yeah that price at 5.5TH for when you would get it looks high to me now with the likely difficulty changes coming the next 4 difficulty turns imho.

yeah looking at the end of oct likely when/if you get the unit in hand best case scenario...I'm not sure.....at current prices prob should just buy coin..
anywone have any idea what difficulty is ? likely ? to be of say next 3 turns of the clock?

I mean KNC is dumping 2nd and 3rd batch neptunes in that time frame the sp30's hit sept 20th the next batch of antiminer S3's hit
could we be looking at 20% diff changes till the next lull?

don't ask me just throwing out here to see what sticks on the wsll

Searing

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