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Quote from: BitCoin Operated Boy on August 21, 2014, 12:14:35 PM

Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 08:58:40 AM

Regarding the SP30 compensation, I'm sorry for the delay in our handling of it.
We're extremely busy with the SP30 production.
We'll contact each customer during next week.

Guy

I'm sorry but this is really ludicrous excuse.
What does it have to do with it???
Producing miners is a manual process not intellectual... I don't really see the logic here.
If you had no problem finding time to think what kind of sale offer for SP31 and advertise it then you certainly have had a plenty of time, within last 3 weeks to think about compensation options for October.

As I said, on top of the fact that we have not even had a chance to earn anything from our Group Buy miners yet, we don't know if there is any sense in investing in October batch, because we have no clue what your compensation will offer. This uncertainty forces us to lose early order, queue positions for October batch.

Your frustration is acknowledged. You underestimate the amount of work involved but I don't want to argue about it.
The GB miners will be shipped during next week.
You and all the SP30 customers will be contacted and offered the relevant compensation choices.

Guy

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Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 08:58:40 AM

Regarding the SP30 compensation, I'm sorry for the delay in our handling of it.
We're extremely busy with the SP30 production.
We'll contact each customer during next week.

Guy

I'm sorry but this is really ludicrous excuse.
What does it have to do with it???
Producing miners is a manual process not intellectual... I don't really see the logic here.
If you had no problem finding time to think what kind of sale offer for SP31 and advertise it then you certainly have had a plenty of time, within last 3 weeks to think about compensation options for October.

As I said, on top of the fact that we have not even had a chance to earn anything from our Group Buy miners yet, we don't know if there is any sense in investing in October batch, because we have no clue what your compensation will offer. This uncertainty forces us to lose early order, queue positions for October batch.

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Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 11:25:43 AM

Quote from: capa on August 21, 2014, 11:23:59 AM

Bitcoin is an opportunity for everyone in the whole world to participtate together without politics

And without religious. Amen

2 things that should never go together but often do!

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Quote from: capa on August 21, 2014, 11:23:59 AM

Bitcoin is an opportunity for everyone in the whole world to participtate together without politics

And without religious. Amen

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Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 09:50:07 AM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 09:47:27 AM

I guess I am residing in exactly one of those countries, and 3rd party hosting is no option for me.

But anyway many thanks for your comprehensive reply.

In certain cases, like Malaysia (or Saudi Arabia), we've shipped to Singapore (or Jordan) after the customer arranged it.

Would you like to hear my comments on Saudi Arabia and Malaysia with respect to Israel?

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Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 09:47:27 AM

I guess I am residing in exactly one of those countries, and 3rd party hosting is no option for me.

But anyway many thanks for your comprehensive reply.

In certain cases, like Malaysia (or Saudi Arabia), we've shipped to Singapore (or Jordan) after the customer arranged it.

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Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 09:43:18 AM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 09:38:33 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 09:36:21 AM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 09:09:11 AM

Does Spondoolies-Tech ship to any destination worldwide?

Thanks in advance.

Yes, with few exceptions.

Thanks for the swift answer. What are the exceptions, please?

Countries without diplomatic relations with Israel. We're shipping everywhere DHL can ship from Israel.
For customers from those countries, we suggest to host. We can ship the miner to an hosting facility.
Partial list here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hw-hosting-directory-reputation-622998

We've exhausted our 1MW DC in Israel. We're working to allow selecting a DC destination when doing the order, from a list of partners.
You'll need to close the terms with the DC before doing the order.

Edit: Distribute the hash-rate

I guess I am residing in exactly one of those countries, and 3rd party hosting is no option for me.

But anyway many thanks for your comprehensive reply.

Guy Corem

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Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 09:38:33 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 09:36:21 AM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 09:09:11 AM

Does Spondoolies-Tech ship to any destination worldwide?

Thanks in advance.

Yes, with few exceptions.

Thanks for the swift answer. What are the exceptions, please?

Countries without diplomatic relations with Israel. We're shipping everywhere DHL can ship from Israel.
For customers from those countries, we suggest to host. We can ship the miner to an hosting facility.
Partial list here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hw-hosting-directory-reputation-622998

We've exhausted our 1MW DC in Israel. We're working to allow selecting a DC destination when doing the order, from a list of partners.
You'll need to close the terms with the DC before doing the order.

Edit: Distribute the hash-rate

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Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 09:36:21 AM

Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 09:09:11 AM

Does Spondoolies-Tech ship to any destination worldwide?

Thanks in advance.

Yes, with few exceptions.

Thanks for the swift answer. What are the exceptions, please?

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Quote from: vortex1878 on August 21, 2014, 09:09:11 AM

Does Spondoolies-Tech ship to any destination worldwide?

Thanks in advance.

Yes, with few exceptions.

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Does Spondoolies-Tech ship to any destination worldwide?

Thanks in advance.

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Quote from: faraway on August 21, 2014, 08:24:40 AM

I hope the SP31 will be delivered early October (Not second half), and with the expected hashrate, or better ; Now the chips process must be mature... The early bugs or miscalculations are behind, no?

As explained before, it depends on the dates we'll receive the ASICs lots. We're trying to pull-in the dates, but we didn't get a commitment yet.
We commit to the 2nd half of October. It might be before if we'll be able to get the ASICs before.

Not bug but easily solvable production issue. Soon, RockerBox will show it's full potential.
Well, actually, not the full potential since the SP31 still has the following limiting factors, in that order: PSUs, DC2DC, Cooling (heat sinks)
I've seen the results of SP30 with slow corner ASICs in grcooling solution and it was impressive. Can't wait to see what SP31 results will look like in similar setup.

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Quote from: bitcoiner23 on August 21, 2014, 08:30:40 AM

Quote from: faraway on August 21, 2014, 08:24:40 AM

Quote from: wpgdeez on August 21, 2014, 07:55:49 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 02:27:12 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

... There is also a chance that the SP31 performs like SP30 should have at ~6.6TH but I'd guess it's more likely it ends up closer to 4.5TH ...

Our commitment and guarantee is for 5.5 TH/s +- 5% with 3KW at the wall. It will probably preform better with the production tweaking we're doing.
By guarantee I mean that we'll compensate for missing hash-rate by the $/GHs ratio of the deal.

Isn't that what you guys said for the slow corner batch as well, what was that compensation offer I forgot, oh wait no one knows yet. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words. This commitment should be stated upfront with the details of what the compensation would be. Your track record hasn't been great taking into consideration the SP10 slow corners and now the SP30 slow corners.

I hope the SP31 will be delivered early October (Not second half), and with the expected hashrate, or better ; Now the chips process must be mature... The early bugs or miscalculations are behind, no?

Care, they already write: IMPROVED ASIC: 5.5 TH/S SHIPPING IN THE SECOND HALF OF OCTOBER <- In Bitcoin ASIC Manufacture Language this is the 31. of October.... Sad

You are right this is the ASIC Manufacture Language; Anyway a little consideration for the customers is always better.

It turns out that AMD is still using the 32nm process for some processors to come. The hashrate efficiency per watt may increase slowly in the near future.

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Regarding the SP30 compensation, I'm sorry for the delay in our handling of it.
We're extremely busy with the SP30 production.
We'll contact each customer during next week.

Guy

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Quote from: faraway on August 21, 2014, 08:24:40 AM

Quote from: wpgdeez on August 21, 2014, 07:55:49 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 02:27:12 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

... There is also a chance that the SP31 performs like SP30 should have at ~6.6TH but I'd guess it's more likely it ends up closer to 4.5TH ...

Our commitment and guarantee is for 5.5 TH/s +- 5% with 3KW at the wall. It will probably preform better with the production tweaking we're doing.
By guarantee I mean that we'll compensate for missing hash-rate by the $/GHs ratio of the deal.

Isn't that what you guys said for the slow corner batch as well, what was that compensation offer I forgot, oh wait no one knows yet. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words. This commitment should be stated upfront with the details of what the compensation would be. Your track record hasn't been great taking into consideration the SP10 slow corners and now the SP30 slow corners.

I hope the SP31 will be delivered early October (Not second half), and with the expected hashrate, or better ; Now the chips process must be mature... The early bugs or miscalculations are behind, no?

Care, they already write: IMPROVED ASIC: 5.5 TH/S SHIPPING IN THE SECOND HALF OF OCTOBER <- In Bitcoin ASIC Manufacture Language this is the 31. of October.... Sad

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Quote from: wpgdeez on August 21, 2014, 07:55:49 AM

Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 02:27:12 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

... There is also a chance that the SP31 performs like SP30 should have at ~6.6TH but I'd guess it's more likely it ends up closer to 4.5TH ...

Our commitment and guarantee is for 5.5 TH/s +- 5% with 3KW at the wall. It will probably preform better with the production tweaking we're doing.
By guarantee I mean that we'll compensate for missing hash-rate by the $/GHs ratio of the deal.

Isn't that what you guys said for the slow corner batch as well, what was that compensation offer I forgot, oh wait no one knows yet. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words. This commitment should be stated upfront with the details of what the compensation would be. Your track record hasn't been great taking into consideration the SP10 slow corners and now the SP30 slow corners.

I hope the SP31 will be delivered early October (Not second half), and with the expected hashrate, or better ; Now the chips process must be mature... The early bugs or miscalculations are behind, no?

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Quote from: Guy Corem on August 21, 2014, 02:27:12 AM

Quote from: jimmothy on August 20, 2014, 05:50:26 PM

... There is also a chance that the SP31 performs like SP30 should have at ~6.6TH but I'd guess it's more likely it ends up closer to 4.5TH ...

Our commitment and guarantee is for 5.5 TH/s +- 5% with 3KW at the wall. It will probably preform better with the production tweaking we're doing.
By guarantee I mean that we'll compensate for missing hash-rate by the $/GHs ratio of the deal.

Isn't that what you guys said for the slow corner batch as well, what was that compensation offer I forgot, oh wait no one knows yet. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words. This commitment should be stated upfront with the details of what the compensation would be. Your track record hasn't been great taking into consideration the SP10 slow corners and now the SP30 slow corners.

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Quote from: RoadStress on August 20, 2014, 11:53:21 PM

Quote from: MrTeal on August 20, 2014, 11:50:45 PM

According to the site, they ship second half of October.
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp31-yukon-october-batch-1
Is there a reason to think they'll ship before that?

Didn't even see that. I assumed that Batch 1 will stat before 15. But the misleading is still there. The S3 will not hash on 14 September.

The only thing misleading are your posts. I would have though you had eaten some humble pie they way your GB has turned out.

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Quote from: BitCoin Operated Boy on August 21, 2014, 06:40:50 AM

Could you post a link to jtoomim website, please?
I'd like to find out more info

Check the link in my signature.

Quote from: padrino on August 21, 2014, 05:51:02 AM

Perhaps you just are not technically competent to run 12 of something as simple as the S3

(I couldn't resist)... Seriously both pieces of hardware are solid and arguing this aspect of the conversation is silly..

Having an 100% uptime has nothing to do with setting them up, but I am sure that you feel better now that you took this out of your system.

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