sick with envy...i soooo missed 2009 ...i would have been such a fun whale with toy miners like in video (alas)
Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 51. (Read 1260223 times)
October 08, 2015, 11:11:39 PM
sick with envy...i soooo missed 2009 ...i would have been such a fun whale with toy miners like in video (alas)
October 08, 2015, 10:47:16 AM
Must be all of the threads with people that have done it that tells you it's crazy? Depending on the deployment scenario and power source (e.g., elec rate management, solar) it can make sense, limited but there are deployment scenarios in which it can...
Using uninterruptible power for coin mining never makes sense. All the past threads are just a proof of that: UPSes get installed only when the coin mine owners cannot retain the engineering talent required for the proper maintenance of the mine.UPSes are only needed for small (but critical) subset of the equipment of the mine: security systems, temperature and climate sensors, fire alarms, edge IP routing. The borderline case is internal in-mine IP switching, probably only few core switches would benefit from UPSes.
One could even make a reverse case: if a coin mine installed UPSes then it is an early symptom of fraud occurring at the highest management levels in the organization.
October 08, 2015, 10:41:19 AM
still no update on price ? no e-mail response too.
i guess its for 2016.
i guess its for 2016.
No, the answer is it's not for general consumption. They don't plan to resell them, they're going to stock their new data center with them, and maybe send a few pallets to select customers.
October 08, 2015, 08:12:05 AM
It simply does not make sense from a business point of view. Batteries are expensive and I want to see those people replacing them every 3 years.
Most people with UPS on mining gear have simply too much money to spend (gray funds), they build their "data centers" no future for BTC .. being ready to attract clients in the regulars server collocation/hosting business, and simply buy UPS-es to invest the money in something and maybe sell the business soon.
Everyone can buy tools, only few use them properly.
Most people with UPS on mining gear have simply too much money to spend (gray funds), they build their "data centers" no future for BTC .. being ready to attract clients in the regulars server collocation/hosting business, and simply buy UPS-es to invest the money in something and maybe sell the business soon.
Everyone can buy tools, only few use them properly.
My only point is that you cannot make the statement it never makes sense, there are some threads on this very forum where it did for one reason or another... You are right that generally it does not, my point was that it's not always "crazy"...
October 08, 2015, 07:36:17 AM
It simply does not make sense from a business point of view. Batteries are expensive and I want to see those people replacing them every 3 years.
Most people with UPS on mining gear have simply too much money to spend (gray funds), they build their "data centers" no future for BTC .. being ready to attract clients in the regulars server collocation/hosting business, and simply buy UPS-es to invest the money in something and maybe sell the business soon.
Everyone can buy tools, only few use them properly.
Most people with UPS on mining gear have simply too much money to spend (gray funds), they build their "data centers" no future for BTC .. being ready to attract clients in the regulars server collocation/hosting business, and simply buy UPS-es to invest the money in something and maybe sell the business soon.
Everyone can buy tools, only few use them properly.
October 08, 2015, 07:36:04 AM
still no update on price ? no e-mail response too.
i guess its for 2016.
i guess its for 2016.
October 08, 2015, 07:30:09 AM
One would be crazy to put mining gear on UPS.
Must be all of the threads with people that have done it that tells you it's crazy? Depending on the deployment scenario and power source (e.g., elec rate management, solar) it can make sense, limited but there are deployment scenarios in which it can...
October 08, 2015, 07:22:32 AM
One would be crazy to put mining gear on UPS. You put that in when your servers hold critical processes .. and servers do not take as much power.
IMHO mining is not critical as long as the units restart automatically or when triggered remote. And most of the units do with only some smart PDUs.
IMHO mining is not critical as long as the units restart automatically or when triggered remote. And most of the units do with only some smart PDUs.
October 08, 2015, 06:32:21 AM
"Ready to accept SP50's, I assume they should be off the assembly line."
Well that answers some of our questions: SP50s are actively being produced, the pictures weren't renderings, queue up now for hash rate.
you dont drop several hundred thousand (maybe a million+?) on racks, cooling, and transformers unless you have a near-term plan to use them (and BTCS=SP-Tech, so be sure they are gonna be the first)
http://www.emersonnetworkpower.com/en-CA/Products/ACPower/LargeFacilityUPS/Pages/LiebertSeries610OnLineUPS1001000kVA.aspx
thats what they have in the second hall, 225kVa (208V i presume) UPS systems. Point me to any other mining facility (besides legit datacenters/colocations) that use these to prevent electrical downtime
October 08, 2015, 05:11:46 AM
It's called shameless self promotion.
October 08, 2015, 03:09:55 AM
Spondoolies sales are not answering our request about bulk purchase and pricing. We would even sign an NDA if needed, but no response is worrisome.
well if they are like other data hall folk they 'announce' product to get more hype and IPO $$$ for the data hall projects...they then fill data hall first with 1st run of product
they then MAYBE sell large bulk orders to others (depending on how much is left and/or how deep in the development hole they are $$$ wise and want up front money back) or they could just decide to keep and mine all the toys like knc does
many options for them fewer for us imho (not a slam ..just saying bulk orders are probably down on the time line more then a ways
October 07, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
Spondoolies sales are not answering our request about bulk purchase and pricing. We would even sign an NDA if needed, but no response is worrisome.
October 07, 2015, 05:58:58 PM
"Ready to accept SP50's, I assume they should be off the assembly line."
Well that answers some of our questions: SP50s are actively being produced, the pictures weren't renderings, queue up now for hash rate.
I just see a bunch of empty racks and transformers. Who knows if they are anywhere near close to production.
October 07, 2015, 05:33:20 PM
"Ready to accept SP50's, I assume they should be off the assembly line."
Well that answers some of our questions: SP50s are actively being produced, the pictures weren't renderings, queue up now for hash rate.
October 07, 2015, 01:08:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgHuyItPUfg
"BTCS Preparing for Spondoolies SP50 Deployment"
"BTCS Preparing for Spondoolies SP50 Deployment"
October 07, 2015, 07:43:37 AM
NDA are used so the people who "work" for BTCS keep quite.
Because they are a public company stock ticker " BTCS "
I am sure all the people who work at BTCS " transaction verification services" had to sign in blood.
But hell what do I know. Right padrino
Because they are a public company stock ticker " BTCS "
I am sure all the people who work at BTCS " transaction verification services" had to sign in blood.
But hell what do I know. Right padrino
Just caught this post, maybe not blood but something real close
I have a whole stack of NDAs, each and every one on the front page of hardware now that I think about it... When negotiating prices, lead-time (which feeds speculation on supply chain, yield challenges, etc.), for larger customers no company is interested in having those details spread around given it's competition sensitive...
October 07, 2015, 01:43:10 AM
Keeping other details under NDA isn't uncommon, but prices are NOT normally an NDA type piece of information.
As far as those speculating on a "SP40" or similar - as I recall SPT has already said it's not happening, they've shifted to making miners for their own datacenters and large customers (or words to that effect).
they made that statement? shit! As far as those speculating on a "SP40" or similar - as I recall SPT has already said it's not happening, they've shifted to making miners for their own datacenters and large customers (or words to that effect).
Things change.
They will go where the money's at.
The large customers will come first no doubt. But eventually if they are making rack miners again (little smaller then SP50). I don't see a problem selling a product meant for a data center to a hobby miner (not a home miner with 110/120). Think upgraded SP30 series. This could have big data center clients and also if pumping out possibly hobby miners. But that is a wish that might not happen.
As far as NDA its very common, as everyone wants to keep it secret what they have in R/D and costs, etc. I expect all SP50 clients for a while to have NDA's on price, and chances are it varies a good bit on how many you buy.
October 07, 2015, 01:32:48 AM
NDA are used so the people who "work" for BTCS keep quite.
Because they are a public company stock ticker " BTCS "
I am sure all the people who work at BTCS " transaction verification services" had to sign in blood.
But hell what do I know. Right padrino
Because they are a public company stock ticker " BTCS "
I am sure all the people who work at BTCS " transaction verification services" had to sign in blood.
But hell what do I know. Right padrino
October 01, 2015, 05:21:16 AM
Keeping other details under NDA isn't uncommon, but prices are NOT normally an NDA type piece of information.
As far as those speculating on a "SP40" or similar - as I recall SPT has already said it's not happening, they've shifted to making miners for their own datacenters and large customers (or words to that effect).
they made that statement? shit! As far as those speculating on a "SP40" or similar - as I recall SPT has already said it's not happening, they've shifted to making miners for their own datacenters and large customers (or words to that effect).
Things change.
They will go where the money's at.
October 01, 2015, 04:58:53 AM
Keeping other details under NDA isn't uncommon, but prices are NOT normally an NDA type piece of information.
As far as those speculating on a "SP40" or similar - as I recall SPT has already said it's not happening, they've shifted to making miners for their own datacenters and large customers (or words to that effect).
they made that statement? shit! As far as those speculating on a "SP40" or similar - as I recall SPT has already said it's not happening, they've shifted to making miners for their own datacenters and large customers (or words to that effect).
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