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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 527. (Read 1260354 times)

legendary
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Happy 200 pages! With dedication to our favorite AM shareholder, jimmothy, a sneak peak into his next dividends:


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noobie
@RawDog
This is definately the wrong forum to discuss missile countermeasures.

Units will ship once they are ready.

3) Please understand that certain individuals launching more or less sophisticated rockets do not necessarily declare their "launch sites",
    and most of the time specific launch sites do not exist.

Spondoolies headquarters is around 25km from the Gaza strip afaik.

Wow.  Not that hard to make a missile go 25 clicks.  How dumb are those guys in Gaza?  I think most 6th graders having a bit of advanced experience with Estes rockets are ready to move up to the next level and achieve 25km.  I sure hope spondoolies is taking appropriate cover.  

This is the right forum to discuss whether or not those fuckers are going to blow up my mining equipment.  Can't Net-10-yahoo just send in some badass hellfire missiles to quite that shit going on there?  Seems like they would be able to get those people sorted out in just a few days.

rockets from gaza are made with tape and doesn't even hit building neither civilians. stop bitching around.
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@RawDog
This is definately the wrong forum to discuss missile countermeasures.

Units will ship once they are ready.

3) Please understand that certain individuals launching more or less sophisticated rockets do not necessarily declare their "launch sites",
    and most of the time specific launch sites do not exist.

Spondoolies headquarters is around 25km from the Gaza strip afaik.

Wow.  Not that hard to make a missile go 25 clicks.  How dumb are those guys in Gaza?  I think most 6th graders having a bit of advanced experience with Estes rockets are ready to move up to the next level and achieve 25km.  I sure hope spondoolies is taking appropriate cover.  

This is the right forum to discuss whether or not those fuckers are going to blow up my mining equipment.  Can't Net-10-yahoo just send in some badass hellfire missiles to quite that shit going on there?  Seems like they would be able to get those people sorted out in just a few days.

Stop using logic, RawDog.

Spondoolies has said multiple times that they will deliver the SP30 on time and on spec in order to boost sales, so there is no schedule or performance risk associated with a SP30 pre-order.

The fact that they are located 25km from a war zone is irrelevant.  Huh

Stay safe, Spondoolies team.
hero member
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Most of these "homemade" smaller rockets barely reach a range of 20km and not too accurately.

Bigger mortars "only" have a range of 10km.

Spondoolies doesn´t manufacture in house, but at a factory farther away from their headquarters.


Israel has also succesfully defended against a large number of missiles that would otherwise have hit populous areas via their iron dome programme.

Targeted areas are also warned via air-raid style sirens etc.
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Hey Spondoolies -

I know this is a bit of a tricky question, but things are getting pretty hot over there these days.  Is there any chance of getting an early shipment going?  What are the chances Hamas is going to blow the fuck out of my $100,000 investment?  I sure hope bombs flying overhead doesn't slow down production much.

Can you please tell us: 1) what is the typical range of a Hamas missile?  2) max range?  3) How far is Spondoolies from the nearest Palestinian rocket launching site?  If you don't have all the parts in hand, do you think some of the shipping will be delayed due to need for diverting shipping resources over to the hot war?  Has Spondoolies ever considered setting up their next generation in a place somewhat further from a war zone - say Canada for example.

I'd sure like to know the answers to these question if you get a minute or two to compose them. 





I'm sorry, but Rawdog your questions are insensitive, rude and frankly just show your lack of respect to the Spondoolies-Tech team and the situation they are up against. If I was them (and good thing for you I'm not) I would cancel your order and refund your (precious) money and tell you to get lost.


Shakes my head,

~Blaise
legendary
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@RawDog
This is definately the wrong forum to discuss missile countermeasures.

Units will ship once they are ready.

3) Please understand that certain individuals launching more or less sophisticated rockets do not necessarily declare their "launch sites",
    and most of the time specific launch sites do not exist.

Spondoolies headquarters is around 25km from the Gaza strip afaik.

Wow.  Not that hard to make a missile go 25 clicks.  How dumb are those guys in Gaza?  I think most 6th graders having a bit of advanced experience with Estes rockets are ready to move up to the next level and achieve 25km.  I sure hope spondoolies is taking appropriate cover.  

This is the right forum to discuss whether or not those fuckers are going to blow up my mining equipment.  Can't Net-10-yahoo just send in some badass hellfire missiles to quite that shit going on there?  Seems like they would be able to get those people sorted out in just a few days.
hero member
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@RawDog
This is definately the wrong forum to discuss missile countermeasures.

Units will ship once they are ready.

3) Please understand that certain individuals launching more or less sophisticated rockets do not necessarily declare their "launch sites",
    and most of the time specific launch sites do not exist.

Spondoolies headquarters is around 25km from the Gaza strip afaik.
sr. member
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bah gettin the same again;

legendary
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Hey Spondoolies -

I know this is a bit of a tricky question, but things are getting pretty hot over there these days.  Is there any chance of getting an early shipment going?  What are the chances Hamas is going to blow the fuck out of my $100,000 investment?  I sure hope bombs flying overhead doesn't slow down production much.

Can you please tell us: 1) what is the typical range of a Hamas missile?  2) max range?  3) How far is Spondoolies from the nearest Palestinian rocket launching site?  If you don't have all the parts in hand, do you think some of the shipping will be delayed due to need for diverting shipping resources over to the hot war?  Has Spondoolies ever considered setting up their next generation in a place somewhat further from a war zone - say Canada for example.

I'd sure like to know the answers to these question if you get a minute or two to compose them. 



legendary
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Zvi.. setting up my SP10s today and one is giving this error: Pool data successfully saved but failed to restart miner, please try again in 1 minute.

it won't start cgminer

help please?
scrap that factory reset did it
 

Or you could just restart the MinerGate.
sr. member
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Zvi.. setting up my SP10s today and one is giving this error: Pool data successfully saved but failed to restart miner, please try again in 1 minute.

it won't start cgminer

help please?
scrap that factory reset did it
 
hero member
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Please, what is "the opposite... sense"?

Grammar is there for a reason and should be followed when communicating in written form only, as other information than the written one is not available.

Are you agreeing with my (previous) proposition?

Unfortunately I cannot tell by your answer.
ZiG
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difference in hashrate rate of change
That makes literally no gramatical sense.

Let me rephrase, hashrate depends on the bitcoin price and hashrate will change according to the bitcoin price once the constant state of "mining income = power cost + small profit" is reached.
Until this state, hashrate will increase fairly constantly, with very small dependancy on btc price.

Just the OPPOSITE...Makes a VERY GOOD sence...to a day trader since 1997 like me... Grin

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difference in hashrate rate of change
That makes literally no gramatical sense.

Let me rephrase, hashrate depends on the bitcoin price and hashrate will change according to the bitcoin price once the constant state of "mining income = power cost + small profit" is reached.
Until this state, hashrate will increase fairly constantly, with very small dependancy on btc price.

 Grin
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difference in hashrate rate of change
That makes literally no gramatical sense.

Let me rephrase, hashrate depends on the bitcoin price and hashrate will change according to the bitcoin price once the constant state of "mining income = power cost + small profit" is reached.
Until this state, hashrate will increase fairly constantly, with very small dependancy on btc price.
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A higher price leads to a higher hashrate increase (and therefore a higher overall hashrate).

It is true and was true for LTC, not BTC. My conclusion was for BTC mostly

And I think leading patterns of LTC hashrate for price will be true soon after massive ASICs in LTC.

PS. in fact price of LTC compensated massive increase in GPU active at one time point (it was twice) and stimulated more GPU in. The matter is You do not analyse mining profit for btc/ltc FOR THE WHOLE HISTORY - then You cannot see where bubbles of btc/ltc is. When You operate the last 6 mo -  I would tell You we went from very high mining profits to slightly under average. Even in this circumstance when 19-day-rate-of-change of 19 day avg of hashrate grew - then price grew also but not for the same value, just trading signal. And when growth rate became lower - price went down )

PS2. I have all history of btc/ltc price, hashrate, all miners at all timepoints, daily figures of capital active in btc/ltc, correlation fo btc/ltc hasrate growth to btc/ltc price as well as other figures in .xlsx daily and have been analysing it more than half a year now.

PS3. Hashrate is almost always up, price not. But I am not talking about hashrate, but about difference in hashrate rate of change.
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Not like that: the higher hashrate GROWTH RATE - the higher price (if we are  not on the top of the bubble - now we are not )

The best indicator is the bigger capital invested in miners - the higher price of btc. BUT it is not so easy to calculate that capital to explain here in a few words Wink
No, this is exactly the wrong cause and consequence.

It is in fact the other way around:
A higher price leads to a higher hashrate increase (and therefore a higher overall hashrate).

In fact, ltc has a price decrease even though the hashrate increases, see this 6-month chart:
http://www.ltc-charts.com/period-charts.php?period=6-months&resolution=day&pair=ltc-usd&market=btc-e

The hashrate increase is primarily due to the relatively new introduction of ltc mining asics.
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
How does 55nm chip cost compare to 28nm?

My understanding was that wafer cost would be cheaper, but you obviously have to use more area per GH. (Is it therefore around the same price per GH?)

Wouldn´t packaging costs be higher when you have more chips to package (or is this a very small difference)?

PCB design would probably be easier as you could go with very small heatsinks etc.


At the end of the day, Bitfury is probably already very limited by the 55nm process, as he probably has most of the optimisation done by now (in his 2nd ASIC generation).
On the other hand Bitfury has secured a $20m funding round, and some of that will most likely be used for NRE of his next generation chips.

I'll answer your basic question and then elaborate a bit.

If you compare the same design:
28 vs 55 nm wafer cost ratio is about 2:1
Area ratio is (55/28)^2=3.9
Speed ratio is about 1.5
Total $/GHs ratio is 3.9*1.5/2=2.9
Totally in terms of $/GHs 28 nm chip should be about 3x cheaper than 55 nm

As it is, you don't compare the same system design. BitFury design doesn't use DC2DC.
They're using a "string approach", similar to Christmas lights. The ASICs are constantly pulling 2 Watt, even when doing nothing.

We've analyzed this approach and decided to keep using DC2DC in our 2nd and 3rd gen systems, despite the cost and supply chain challenges.
The reason is that in overall $/GHs we're getting better results.

BitFury isn't sitting idle. They scrapped a 28 big ASIC effort due to thermals challenges (unconfirmed)
They still didn't TO their custom 40 ASIC (the ASIC is confirmed, the TO status is unconfirmed)
And of course, they're working on advance nodes as well for 2015 (confirmed).

Interesting times ahead.
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It would be very helpful for litecoin price Smiley

In what direction ?   Cheesy
There seems to be the misconception that a higher difficulty forces a higher price.

Not like that: the higher hashrate GROWTH RATE - the higher price (if we are  not on the top of the bubble - now we are not )

The best indicator is the bigger capital invested in miners - the higher price of btc. BUT it is not so easy to calculate that capital to explain here in a few words Wink
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It would be very helpful for litecoin price Smiley

In what direction ?   Cheesy
There seems to be the misconception that a higher difficulty forces a higher price.
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