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It obviously works in a 220V setup (mine gets 233V at the moment) without pushing some kind of nonexistant switch.

The murata/emerson 1200W PSUs work the same way, as well as most atx PSUs.


PSU efficiency as well as maximum supplied current is raised by average 3-5% when on a 220V circuit, opposed to a 120V circuit.

For the DS1200-003-2  specifically:

180 - 264V (1200W)
90 - 264V (1000W)
(This is from the DataSheet and includes significant safety margins, but the basic idea is obvious.)

There is no debate of 120V vs 220V, efficiency is higher and most (and nearly all server) PSUs work (better) on it.
My SP10 is running on 240V.
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thank you very much ....as the location of my outlets are right by my elec panel I will do both 220v and 120v setups...

(god knows what my Titan will want to pull for voltages...best to be prepared..no specs yet that arrives 'supposedly' august sp30 sept)

did I already mention that last years 'hobby' has kinda sprung 'somewhat" out of control?

good to have goals

again thanks for the help on cooling/btu issues and this power stuff it is greatly appreciated ...hopefully this info
will be available to the next guy who has bitten off more then he can chew...sheesh....

Searing


If you're adding new circuits, I recommend you do only 220-240v circuits for all your miners. A miner will draw slightly less than half as much current from the wall at 230v as it would at 115v. You would need two 20 amp circuits at 115v to run a single SP30 (calculations below), but you'd only need one 20 amp circuit at 230v. The performance of the SP30 will likely be higher on 230v than at 115v. The Titan will also use less than half the wall current at 230v than at 115v, and it will also use about 2% less power, generate about 2% less heat, and possibly perform better as well.

An SP30 is 2750 watts in two plugs, or 1375 watts per plug. Power (watts) equals voltage times current, so 1375W at 115V is (1375/115) = 12 amps per plug, or 24 amps total. This means a absolute minimum of 30 amps after applying the 80% rule, and 40 amps with a margin for comfort. On the other hand, 1375/230 = 6 amps per plug, or 12 amps total. Bare minimum circuit size for this would be 15 amps, so a single 20 amp circuit should run it reliably. I don't know what the Titan's consumption is, but it's likely you could power it on a second 20 amp 230v circuit and be fine.

If your home's service is only 100 amps, you should be careful. You're going to need about 40 amps of circuits (with about 20 amps of loads) for your new miners. Add in 10 amps for A/C, 10 amps for lighting and other devices, 10 amps for a microwave, and 30 amps for an electric stove, and you've got 80 amps of more of current, which is enough to trip a 100 amp breaker. You can probably make it work, but you should be aware that you may have to institute rules of not doing X while Y is on (e.g. no microwaving while the stove is on).

You're paying 15 cents per kWh? Ouch. I hope you don't need to use the AC much, because that will add another 25% to your power consumption. I'm sorry my datacenter isn't up yet. Once it is, we'll be charging around 9.7 to 12.5 cents per kWh to cover everything, including cooling and electrical upgrades. Maybe next time?
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It obviously works in a 220V setup (mine gets 233V at the moment) without pushing some kind of nonexistant switch.

The murata/emerson 1200W PSUs work the same way, as well as most atx PSUs.


PSU efficiency as well as maximum supplied current is raised by 3-5% when on a 220V circuit, opposed to a 120V circuit.

thank you very much ....as the location of my outlets are right by my elec panel I will do both 220v and 120v setups...

(god knows what my Titan will want to pull for voltages...best to be prepared..no specs yet that arrives 'supposedly' august sp30 sept)

did I already mention that last years 'hobby' has kinda sprung 'somewhat" out of control?

good to have goals

again thanks for the help on cooling/btu issues and this power stuff it is greatly appreciated ...hopefully this info
will be available to the next guy who has bitten off more then he can chew...sheesh....

Searing
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It obviously works in a 220V setup (mine gets 233V at the moment) without pushing some kind of nonexistant switch.

The murata/emerson 1200W PSUs work the same way, as well as most atx PSUs.


PSU efficiency as well as maximum supplied current is raised by average 3-5% when on a 220V circuit, opposed to a 120V circuit.

For the DS1200-003-2  specifically:

180 - 264V (1200W)
90 - 264V (1000W)
(This is from the DataSheet and includes significant safety margins, but the basic idea is obvious.)

There is no debate of 120V vs 220V, efficiency is higher and most (and nearly all server) PSUs work (better) on it.
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Code:
[quote author=raskul link=topic=521520.msg7820017#msg7820017 date=1405258374]
[quote author=Searing link=topic=521520.msg7819990#msg7819990 date=1405258258]
[quote author=Spondoolies-Tech link=topic=521520.msg7818391#msg7818391 date=1405250478]
Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - [url=http://storage.googleapis.com/spond_public/materials/FAQ%20SP30%20PSU.docx]SP30 PSU[/url]
[/quote]

only other question...do these units 'auto sense' the voltage or is there a tab on them that you have to manually change (like on desktop
power supplies) sliding switch for 220v/120v?

plugs I plan to use (likely to just go 120v 20amp route for each power supply) on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0027JRMD0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IXW6KFI5BRZPE&psc=1

if I say went 220v would use this version

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0093WFT5C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IBHNKAL15M3TK



so again only unclear part on this setup is does the power supply units auto sense voltage etc on start up or do you need to set it
on the power supply itself for 120v or 220v

thanks again for the help ..I've been kinda a pain..I'm out in the sticks w/o bitcoin talk I'd be in a world of hurt with questions

by the by anyone else in USA putting an Sp30 in their basement or am I the only 'enlightened foo...er I mean individual doing such)

so it goes

thanks again for the help the fog is slowly clearing

Searing

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i think the answer is no (no 120v switch).. I recall you answering this but thought it had been answered. Doesn't the PSU auto recognise voltage?
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er just to make sure I'm clear basically you mean "no sliding switch 110v/220v at all" unit will simply auto sense the voltage 220v or 120v
depending on the power you apply to it (via of course the above type ext cords we USA types will get to facilitate this)

Code:
would make sense..it would auto sense...just making sure as long as I'm in the "throes of" wiring my basement and the thrills of mini-a/c
data center kinda/sorta setup with window a/c unit and fans..

god help me the NSA breaks down my door it will look 'suspicious as hell" back in the cage I go at the pentagon (see link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJPFSNu_QNs

(hey..bitcoin taking over the world it is a stretch...but how the basement project feels....secret lab wise)

Searing


i know some PSU's have this switch, but i don't see one on the SP10 PSU... i merely presume the SP30 will be the same



well my good man just plug that Sp10 into the nearest 220v socket (with proper cord of course) if it works Viola! if it does (lots of black smoke) you will have the honor
of knowing you answered the guestion and saved my future Sp30 unit (now there there don't cry...thats a good man...stiff upper lip and all that)..

(it is all about me don't ya know) heh

(ducks..hey don't throw stuff at me in bitcointalk....jeez)

Searing
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Code:
[quote author=raskul link=topic=521520.msg7820017#msg7820017 date=1405258374]
[quote author=Searing link=topic=521520.msg7819990#msg7819990 date=1405258258]
[quote author=Spondoolies-Tech link=topic=521520.msg7818391#msg7818391 date=1405250478]
Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - [url=http://storage.googleapis.com/spond_public/materials/FAQ%20SP30%20PSU.docx]SP30 PSU[/url]
[/quote]

only other question...do these units 'auto sense' the voltage or is there a tab on them that you have to manually change (like on desktop
power supplies) sliding switch for 220v/120v?

plugs I plan to use (likely to just go 120v 20amp route for each power supply) on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0027JRMD0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IXW6KFI5BRZPE&psc=1

if I say went 220v would use this version

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0093WFT5C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IBHNKAL15M3TK



so again only unclear part on this setup is does the power supply units auto sense voltage etc on start up or do you need to set it
on the power supply itself for 120v or 220v

thanks again for the help ..I've been kinda a pain..I'm out in the sticks w/o bitcoin talk I'd be in a world of hurt with questions

by the by anyone else in USA putting an Sp30 in their basement or am I the only 'enlightened foo...er I mean individual doing such)

so it goes

thanks again for the help the fog is slowly clearing

Searing

[/quote]

i think the answer is no (no 120v switch).. I recall you answering this but thought it had been answered. Doesn't the PSU auto recognise voltage?
[/quote]

er just to make sure I'm clear basically you mean "no sliding switch 110v/220v at all" unit will simply auto sense the voltage 220v or 120v
depending on the power you apply to it (via of course the above type ext cords we USA types will get to facilitate this)

Code:
would make sense..it would auto sense...just making sure as long as I'm in the "throes of" wiring my basement and the thrills of mini-a/c
data center kinda/sorta setup with window a/c unit and fans..

god help me the NSA breaks down my door it will look 'suspicious as hell" back in the cage I go at the pentagon (see link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJPFSNu_QNs

(hey..bitcoin taking over the world it is a stretch...but how the basement project feels....secret lab wise)

Searing


i know some PSU's have this switch, but i don't see one on the SP10 PSU... i merely presume the SP30 will be the same
copper member
Activity: 2898
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Clueless!
Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - SP30 PSU

only other question...do these units 'auto sense' the voltage or is there a tab on them that you have to manually change (like on desktop
power supplies) sliding switch for 220v/120v?

plugs I plan to use (likely to just go 120v 20amp route for each power supply) on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0027JRMD0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IXW6KFI5BRZPE&psc=1

if I say went 220v would use this version

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0093WFT5C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IBHNKAL15M3TK



so again only unclear part on this setup is does the power supply units auto sense voltage etc on start up or do you need to set it
on the power supply itself for 120v or 220v

thanks again for the help ..I've been kinda a pain..I'm out in the sticks w/o bitcoin talk I'd be in a world of hurt with questions

by the by anyone else in USA putting an Sp30 in their basement or am I the only 'enlightened foo...er I mean individual doing such)

so it goes

thanks again for the help the fog is slowly clearing

Searing


i think the answer is no (no 120v switch).. I recall you answering this but thought it had been answered. Doesn't the PSU auto recognise voltage?

er just to make sure I'm clear basically you mean "no sliding switch 110v/220v at all" unit will simply auto sense the voltage 220v or 120v
depending on the power you apply to it (via of course the above type ext cords we USA types will get to facilitate this)

would make sense..it would auto sense...just making sure as long as I'm in the "throes of" wiring my basement and the thrills of mini-a/c
data center kinda/sorta setup with window a/c unit and fans..

god help me the NSA breaks down my door it will look 'suspicious as hell" back in the cage I go at the pentagon (see link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJPFSNu_QNs

(hey..bitcoin taking over the world it is a stretch...but how the basement project feels....secret lab wise)

Searing

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Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - SP30 PSU

only other question...do these units 'auto sense' the voltage or is there a tab on them that you have to manually change (like on desktop
power supplies) sliding switch for 220v/120v?

plugs I plan to use (likely to just go 120v 20amp route for each power supply) on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0027JRMD0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IXW6KFI5BRZPE&psc=1

if I say went 220v would use this version

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0093WFT5C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IBHNKAL15M3TK



so again only unclear part on this setup is does the power supply units auto sense voltage etc on start up or do you need to set it
on the power supply itself for 120v or 220v

thanks again for the help ..I've been kinda a pain..I'm out in the sticks w/o bitcoin talk I'd be in a world of hurt with questions

by the by anyone else in USA putting an Sp30 in their basement or am I the only 'enlightened foo...er I mean individual doing such)

so it goes

thanks again for the help the fog is slowly clearing

Searing


i think the answer is no (no 120v switch).. I recall you answering this but thought it had been answered. Doesn't the PSU auto recognise voltage?
i'm sure there are settings you can apply to make it run as per spec on 120v
copper member
Activity: 2898
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Clueless!
Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - SP30 PSU

only other question...do these units 'auto sense' the voltage or is there a tab on them that you have to manually change (like on desktop
power supplies) sliding switch for 220v/120v?

plugs I plan to use (likely to just go 120v 20amp route for each power supply) on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0027JRMD0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IXW6KFI5BRZPE&psc=1

if I say went 220v would use this version

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0093WFT5C/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=29KXN40Q7LSID&coliid=IBHNKAL15M3TK



so again only unclear part on this setup is does the power supply units auto sense voltage etc on start up or do you need to set it
on the power supply itself for 120v or 220v

thanks again for the help ..I've been kinda a pain..I'm out in the sticks w/o bitcoin talk I'd be in a world of hurt with questions

by the by anyone else in USA putting an Sp30 in their basement or am I the only 'enlightened foo...er I mean individual doing such)

so it goes

thanks again for the help the fog is slowly clearing

Searing
legendary
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Me too.
I just wanted to be sure I had the correct set.
Standard is good.
Both of those power supplies are beasts.  It should be interesting to see how they perform.


What length are the supplied power cords going to be?

they don't come with power cords, you need to buy them yourself, it's just kettle leads (if you are in the UK you know what this is)

my mistake then, Collider's post said "include" which lead me to believe. I know the SP10's shipped without, but we easily knew what type of end we needed beforehand, now it might be a guessing game haha.

ah, in that case i may be wrong... but the power cords are easily obtainable most places, I always have a few kicking around just in case.. lots of appliances use them
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What length are the supplied power cords going to be?

they don't come with power cords, you need to buy them yourself, it's just kettle leads (if you are in the UK you know what this is)

my mistake then, Collider's post said "include" which lead me to believe. I know the SP10's shipped without, but we easily knew what type of end we needed beforehand, now it might be a guessing game haha.

ah, in that case i may be wrong... but the power cords are easily obtainable most places, I always have a few kicking around just in case.. lots of appliances use them
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What length are the supplied power cords going to be?

they don't come with power cords, you need to buy them yourself, it's just kettle leads (if you are in the UK you know what this is)

my mistake then, Collider's post said "include" which lead me to believe. I know the SP10's shipped without, but we easily knew what type of end we needed beforehand, now it might be a guessing game haha.
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What length are the supplied power cords going to be?

they don't come with power cords, you need to buy them yourself, it's just kettle leads (if you are in the UK you know what this is)
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What length are the supplied power cords going to be?
legendary
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Cool thanks.


This is good to know.
Will they ship with US compatible power cords for units that are coming here?


Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - SP30 PSU
30 with 2 Emerson PSUs will include 2 IEC C19-C14 power cords while a SP30 supporting Murata will have 2 IEC C13-C14 power cords.

Country-specific power cords are usually purchased by the user themselves.
hero member
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This is good to know.
Will they ship with US compatible power cords for units that are coming here?


Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - SP30 PSU
30 with 2 Emerson PSUs will include 2 IEC C19-C14 power cords while a SP30 supporting Murata will have 2 IEC C13-C14 power cords.

Country-specific power cords are usually purchased by the user themselves.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1004
This is good to know.
Will they ship with US compatible power cords for units that are coming here?


Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - SP30 PSU
sr. member
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... and everyone talks over each other in conversations......(sigh) ...

Try to have a conversation in Israel ...  Wink

learning is the process of life, you gonna teach us?  Grin

can I also say a BIG thank you to Rimon for helping me with a dicky rig... great to see such prompt assistance from Spondoolies
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
... and everyone talks over each other in conversations......(sigh) ...

Try to have a conversation in Israel ...  Wink
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - SP30 PSU
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