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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 529. (Read 1260354 times)

legendary
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Personal text my ass....
this SP30 is a joke !At this price it would be good if it's delivered right now,but when this sp30 comes out in SEPTEMBER it will be useless at this price !


Yea, I want to support Spondoolie and the community and keep myself in the game, but at that current price with a $300 shipping charge the most I could ever make would maybe be $2500-$3200. So, for something that cost me $5395 and only get the most $3200 out of it doesn't seem like a good investment. And I'm working with the current numbers, the September numbers would even be worse. I'm trying to keep myself in the game, and I'd really hate to buy a few Antminer S3's, but their so damn cheap it is hard to say no. I'd rather use a Spondoolie product for good support and a quality product but maybe this go around I'll just stick to buying bitcoin out right from now on and not have to worry about hardware. Apparently it seems everyone in the world is putting up their own data center these days. In my opinion, the main problem and concern we ALL should be worried about is power.

Opentoe, please do me the favor of replying to my question with your (approximate) percentage gains from your calculations. Just curious.

Regards,

~Blaise

Obviously I used an online calculator and it came to about %66. I used the Tradeblock site, which isn't set in stone with the output numbers, but I would definitely say they are a good approximate. Here is what I input for one SP30 starting in September.
https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/a45142e2e9
Maximum profit only indicates $3630, and yea, I was high with the difficulty increase cause I'd rather have worse case numbers to make a decision on. I think if I spend over $5k on a mining rig and then have to spend $300/month to co-locate I'd want a better reward than $3k-$4k. For 6TH/s in September I think $5395 is too much right now, that's all. I'm hoping all the numbers are correct. The reason I kept the diff at 20 is because at that time there will probably be a slew of KNC Neptunes online, thousands of Antminer S3's and, another one called Rockminer?, and then of course Spondoolie's. That's a huge dent onto the network, and if you adjust that difficulty setting on that page it does change your max profit considerably. The lowest change in 4 months has been %10.66.

Jun 29 2014   16,818,461,371   24.93%   120,391,236 GH/s
Jun 18 2014   13,462,580,115   14.51%   96,368,902 GH/s
Jun 05 2014   11,756,551,917   12.44%   84,156,677 GH/s
May 24 2014   10,455,720,138   18.10%   74,844,960 GH/s
May 12 2014   8,853,416,309   10.66%   63,375,223 GH/s
Apr 29 2014   8,000,872,136   14.64%   57,272,474 GH/s
Apr 17 2014   6,978,842,650   14.04%   49,956,502 GH/s
Apr 05 2014   6,119,726,089   22.23%   43,806,706 GH/s

I've never been a risky person, so I hesitate, and sometimes I lose out. The best thing I ever did was buy a KNC Saturn and then bought 4 upgrade modules. That little guy is still chugging along. I think if my house had more electrical resources and didn't have to worry about cooling I'd have mining rigs all over the place. It is addicting.
legendary
Activity: 1274
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Personal text my ass....
First batch was March+July then there was an April+July (I think both at 15K, at least April+July)
I am not sure if there were farmer choice left when the 10% discount started if so it was only for the latest unit of the batch.

July batch has been told to be a small batch probably around 50-100 and with the info provided by SP it will ship the last week of July.
August batch should come after that problably shipping by the 2nd week of August and due to the numbers I presume that it will be continously shipping until the last week of august depending on your position on the queue (april+august, may+august, farmer's choice, singles and group buy all mixed).

1x Better Together SP10 + SP30 April + August for $13,930.00 (Free Shipping)

~Blaise

OR you could pick up 7-TH worth of S3's for half the price....

Or...

I'm ok with paying extra in order to avoid unnecessarily headaches. One box, 2 cables and I'm hashing in 2 minutes plus no reselling hassle. I would like to be busy planning the future, not dealing with present avoidable issues.

Plus the added power consumption. My house is filled with Jupiters and SP10s. I don't have any room available for another miner and it makes no sense to unplug some. So the only option is colocation. Good luck hosting 7TH/s worth of S3s in a datacenter Smiley


I asked my current co-location place about S3's and they said bring 'em on! As many as you want. All they need of course are power supplies sent to them and they'll hook them up on large bread racks they have there. And if I have a lot, they'll make a good deal.

You say your house is full of Jupiters and Sp10's, how the heck do you live? One SP10 is loud enough and you said your house is filled with miners? How do you watch TV? With headphones? What do you do in the summer about cooling everything?
member
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this SP30 is a joke !At this price it would be good if it's delivered right now,but when this sp30 comes out in SEPTEMBER it will be useless at this price !


Yea, I want to support Spondoolie and the community and keep myself in the game, but at that current price with a $300 shipping charge the most I could ever make would maybe be $2500-$3200. So, for something that cost me $5395 and only get the most $3200 out of it doesn't seem like a good investment. And I'm working with the current numbers, the September numbers would even be worse. I'm trying to keep myself in the game, and I'd really hate to buy a few Antminer S3's, but their so damn cheap it is hard to say no. I'd rather use a Spondoolie product for good support and a quality product but maybe this go around I'll just stick to buying bitcoin out right from now on and not have to worry about hardware. Apparently it seems everyone in the world is putting up their own data center these days. In my opinion, the main problem and concern we ALL should be worried about is power.

Opentoe, please do me the favor of replying to my question with your (approximate) percentage gains from your calculations. Just curious.

Regards,

~Blaise
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1020
★ Ⓚ KORE TEAM Ⓚ ★
1x Better Together SP10 + SP30 April + August for $13,930.00 (Free Shipping)

~Blaise

OR you could pick up 7-TH worth of S3's for half the price....

Wait a minute. Are you comparing a bundle that started hashing 3 months ago with something in stock? That can't be fair.

I understand you bringing up the worse case scenario.
But most are not in it...

Why it's a worst case scenario? I really think that most miners already own mining equipment and have a limited power circuit available. Optimizing it sound the best approach.

Makes sense to sell off what you have and buy the SP-30 or a few 10's..

Just too darn expensive to do that though.
Prices are too high.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
1x Better Together SP10 + SP30 April + August for $13,930.00 (Free Shipping)

~Blaise

OR you could pick up 7-TH worth of S3's for half the price....

Wait a minute. Are you comparing a bundle that started hashing 3 months ago with something in stock? That can't be fair.

I understand you bringing up the worse case scenario.
But most are not in it...

Why it's a worst case scenario? I really think that most miners already own mining equipment and have a limited power circuit available. Optimizing it sound the best approach.
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1020
★ Ⓚ KORE TEAM Ⓚ ★
First batch was March+July then there was an April+July (I think both at 15K, at least April+July)
I am not sure if there were farmer choice left when the 10% discount started if so it was only for the latest unit of the batch.

July batch has been told to be a small batch probably around 50-100 and with the info provided by SP it will ship the last week of July.
August batch should come after that problably shipping by the 2nd week of August and due to the numbers I presume that it will be continously shipping until the last week of august depending on your position on the queue (april+august, may+august, farmer's choice, singles and group buy all mixed).

1x Better Together SP10 + SP30 April + August for $13,930.00 (Free Shipping)

~Blaise

OR you could pick up 7-TH worth of S3's for half the price....

Or...

I'm ok with paying extra in order to avoid unnecessarily headaches. One box, 2 cables and I'm hashing in 2 minutes plus no reselling hassle. I would like to be busy planning the future, not dealing with present avoidable issues.

Plus the added power consumption. My house is filled with Jupiters and SP10s. I don't have any room available for another miner and it makes no sense to unplug some. So the only option is colocation. Good luck hosting 7TH/s worth of S3s in a datacenter Smiley


I understand you bringing up the worse case scenario.
But most are not in it...

Fact is the prices are too high and need to come down to realistic pricing.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
First batch was March+July then there was an April+July (I think both at 15K, at least April+July)
I am not sure if there were farmer choice left when the 10% discount started if so it was only for the latest unit of the batch.

July batch has been told to be a small batch probably around 50-100 and with the info provided by SP it will ship the last week of July.
August batch should come after that problably shipping by the 2nd week of August and due to the numbers I presume that it will be continously shipping until the last week of august depending on your position on the queue (april+august, may+august, farmer's choice, singles and group buy all mixed).

1x Better Together SP10 + SP30 April + August for $13,930.00 (Free Shipping)

~Blaise

OR you could pick up 7-TH worth of S3's for half the price....

Or...

I'm ok with paying extra in order to avoid unnecessarily headaches. One box, 2 cables and I'm hashing in 2 minutes plus no reselling hassle. I would like to be busy planning the future, not dealing with present avoidable issues.

Plus the added power consumption. My house is filled with Jupiters and SP10s. I don't have any room available for another miner and it makes no sense to unplug some. So the only option is colocation. Good luck hosting 7TH/s worth of S3s in a datacenter Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1020
★ Ⓚ KORE TEAM Ⓚ ★
First batch was March+July then there was an April+July (I think both at 15K, at least April+July)
I am not sure if there were farmer choice left when the 10% discount started if so it was only for the latest unit of the batch.

July batch has been told to be a small batch probably around 50-100 and with the info provided by SP it will ship the last week of July.
August batch should come after that problably shipping by the 2nd week of August and due to the numbers I presume that it will be continously shipping until the last week of august depending on your position on the queue (april+august, may+august, farmer's choice, singles and group buy all mixed).

1x Better Together SP10 + SP30 April + August for $13,930.00 (Free Shipping)

~Blaise

OR you could pick up 7-TH worth of S3's for half the price....
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Personal text my ass....
this SP30 is a joke !At this price it would be good if it's delivered right now,but when this sp30 comes out in SEPTEMBER it will be useless at this price !


Yea, I want to support Spondoolie and the community and keep myself in the game, but at that current price with a $300 shipping charge the most I could ever make would maybe be $2500-$3200. So, for something that cost me $5395 and only get the most $3200 out of it doesn't seem like a good investment. And I'm working with the current numbers, the September numbers would even be worse. I'm trying to keep myself in the game, and I'd really hate to buy a few Antminer S3's, but their so damn cheap it is hard to say no. I'd rather use a Spondoolie product for good support and a quality product but maybe this go around I'll just stick to buying bitcoin out right from now on and not have to worry about hardware. Apparently it seems everyone in the world is putting up their own data center these days. In my opinion, the main problem and concern we ALL should be worried about is power.
member
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First batch was March+July then there was an April+July (I think both at 15K, at least April+July)
I am not sure if there were farmer choice left when the 10% discount started if so it was only for the latest unit of the batch.

July batch has been told to be a small batch probably around 50-100 and with the info provided by SP it will ship the last week of July.
August batch should come after that problably shipping by the 2nd week of August and due to the numbers I presume that it will be continously shipping until the last week of august depending on your position on the queue (april+august, may+august, farmer's choice, singles and group buy all mixed).

1x Better Together SP10 + SP30 April + August for $13,930.00 (Free Shipping)

~Blaise
legendary
Activity: 1904
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As for the shipping dates I'm not making any speculation now.

You seem to have a pretty good idea of when they'll have chips in hand.
Backing off on ship dates so close to chips in hand ?
Sure, I will have a first day sp30. (as i also had a first day sp10)
As for shipping dates, I estimate July batch at the end of July, and August presumably early/mid August and late August.

@s1gs3gv I'm not backing up. What Collider said!
full member
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First batch was March+July then there was an April+July (I think both at 15K, at least April+July)
I am not sure if there were farmer choice left when the 10% discount started if so it was only for the latest unit of the batch.

July batch has been told to be a small batch probably around 50-100 and with the info provided by SP it will ship the last week of July.
August batch should come after that problably shipping by the 2nd week of August and due to the numbers I presume that it will be continously shipping until the last week of august depending on your position on the queue (april+august, may+august, farmer's choice, singles and group buy all mixed).
hero member
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As for the shipping dates I'm not making any speculation now.

You seem to have a pretty good idea of when they'll have chips in hand.
Backing off on ship dates so close to chips in hand ?
Sure, I will have a first day sp30. (as i also had a first day sp10)
As for shipping dates, I estimate July batch at the end of July, and August presumably early/mid August and late August.
legendary
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ex uno plures
As for the shipping dates I'm not making any speculation now.

You seem to have a pretty good idea of when they'll have chips in hand.
Backing off on ship dates so close to chips in hand ?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007

AFAIK it was not offered on the very first days of the very first bundle (March / July), which was ~$15K.


Sounds like you are in line for one of the very first SP30 machines Collider.


Same as me!

As for the shipping dates I'm not making any speculation now.
legendary
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ex uno plures

AFAIK it was not offered on the very first days of the very first bundle (March / July), which was ~$15K.


Sounds like you are in line for one of the very first SP30 machines Collider.
legendary
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ex uno plures
RoadStress, how do those shipping dates above look ?
hero member
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Spondoolies offered ( and maybe still does ) a 10% rebate for people with other miners on order.

AFAIK it was not offered on the very first days of the very first bundle (March / July), which was ~$15K.


The numbers (which are basically the same than I posted) look fine.
legendary
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ex uno plures
The prices I have listed for the bundles are from page 1 of this thread. What rebates are you referring to ?

Anyway, so lets now note the expected ship time of each bundle/product/batch.

How does this look ?

The SP10March+SP30July / USD 13K  (14950?) / July (page 1 changed to May/August ?)

3*SP30 @ / USD 21K (rebate?) / July

August SP30 GroupBuy / USD 5K or USD 4.5K with 'Consolation coupon' / August

August SP30 / no group buy ~ USD 10K (rebate ?) / August

September SP30  ~ USD 5K / September
hero member
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The first bundle (sp30 July) was $14950 and afaik there was no 10% rebate option. It comes with free shipping.

The 3*sp30 bundle was $18950 after rebate, and includes 2 months hosting for each unit.

The single August sp30 (non-groupbuy) was ~$10k before rebate.

The groupbuy sp30 was $4500 after 10% rebate and includes either shipping or 1 month hosting.

2nd batch August units were $5395 before 10% rebate (if that was offered) and without shipping (shipping cost is 300$).


All the other prices for available hardware should be on the homepage.
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