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But for every serious miner there is always the $10 option.

You have to admit it's pretty sad when the only reason to buy an SP30 is to have less wires.

Fuckin' ridiculous...
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Again, I wouldn´t compare the S3 too much to the sp30, more like the sp10.

It has various advantages though, such as less noise, earlier delivery from time of payment, lower entry costs to mining etc. (and is actually available to buy/order)

The S3s are much less temperature dependant than the Sp10 though.

At the end of the day both Bitmain and Spondoolies build good products that have their specific markets they are targeting.


In my opinion we should compare the rackmountable options to each other, aka the S4 to the sp30.
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Plus spending 2 to 4 times the amount in electric bills as compared to cheap hosting
and they would take up 20 times as much space, and would be a wiring hazard and
would need an industrial AC unit to cool the room. Did I mention it was a wiring hazard?
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I cant even imagine the nightmare of trying to wire up 12 of these somewhere and
not electrocuting yourself trying to afro-engineer something up with server PSUs and
not enough knowledge WTF you are doing, over taxing something, and either burning the
room down or getting hit with 220V 10amp of power out of a server grade PSU and being
dead in seconds.

The server PSUs are cheap but then the sidehacking comes in.

Dell 600W PSU is probably $25, sure, but you cant do shit with it.
The only SEMI neat and safe way around that is the $55 wiring rig
from sidehack.

So now you paid $80 for 600W.  Why waste your time and safety?
Just go buy a nice Corsair or other SAFE 1200W PSU that will run at
least two of them with room left over to overclock too for not much more?

I tell you what, wire up 12 of them for me ONLY with DELL $20 PSUs and send me a picture
of that fucking spaghetti sandwich wiring hazard.

So basically it's worth ~9btc to have a few less wires? Because that's what it will cost you.

Yes, if you don't have a clue what you are doing then you probably should just buy a $50 750w atx psu.

But for every serious miner there is always the $10 option.

You have to admit it's pretty sad when the only reason to buy an SP30 is to have less wires.
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I tell you what, wire up 12 of them for me ONLY with DELL $20 PSUs and send me a picture
of that fucking spaghetti sandwich wiring hazard.

I have no doubt that jimmothy will send us a picture with the wiring because he loves the spaghetti monsters Smiley
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I cant even imagine the nightmare of trying to wire up 12 of these somewhere and
not electrocuting yourself trying to afro-engineer something up with server PSUs and
not enough knowledge WTF you are doing, over taxing something, and either burning the
room down or getting hit with 220V 10amp of power out of a server grade PSU and being
dead in seconds.

The server PSUs are cheap but then the sidehacking comes in.

Dell 600W PSU is probably $25, sure, but you cant do shit with it.
The only SEMI neat and safe way around that is the $55 wiring rig
from sidehack.

So now you paid $80 for 600W.  Why waste your time and safety?
Just go buy a nice Corsair or other SAFE 1200W PSU that will run at
least two of them with room left over to overclock too for not much more?

I tell you what, wire up 12 of them for me ONLY with DELL $20 PSUs and send me a picture
of that fucking spaghetti sandwich wiring hazard.
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What does it cost you to run 12 S3 units?
Lets look at that shall we?

You are going to need at least 6 BIG power supplies.
So that 2 S3 units for 1.5BTC is now more like 2 units for closer to
1.8BTC with a good 1000W minimum Corsair power supply.
So, now you are at near 11BTC for all the hardware.
Thats abouot $7000 at current exchange.
SP30 at the group buy was MUCH cheaper.  $4500 ring a bell?

Or you could not buy the most expensive power supplies available. A $10 server psu should work fine. With 12 $10 psus the grand total would come up to ~$5700. (you could probably even get away with only 6 750w psus without overclocking)

Yes the group buy is a bit less overpriced but their website prices are ludicrous. I really doubt the majority of their sales are non-negotiated.

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AND, I think unless BTC hits a stable $800 and NEVER drops, mining other ALT coins is
going to be much more profitable VERY soon.  If megabitpower adds their 50PH of hashing
to the BTC network per month like they want to do, well to hell with BTC mining.  Its dead.
Let the fuckers have it.

When difficulty increases it does so for ALL sha256 coins.

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They claim to ship July 10 I guess, so right about when the first SP30s will be shipping, give
or take a week or two.

But you can't order an sp30 for July delivery so it's pointless in this comparison.

Anyways what's a better deal:

$5300 for ~6TH in 3 months http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=16818461371&dcosts=5300&diff_mincrease=15&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=6000000&diff_mincreasedecrease=3&btcusd=610.76&dpowcon=2700&btcusd_mincrease=1&pcost=0.075&calcweeks=50&dleadtime=7&action=calc

or

$5,800 for 6.6TH in 2 weeks? http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=16818461371&dcosts=5700&diff_mincrease=15&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=6600000&diff_mincreasedecrease=3&btcusd=610.76&dpowcon=6000&btcusd_mincrease=1&pcost=0.075&calcweeks=32&dleadtime=1&action=calc
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Once they hook mine up and have it working Im going to ask their owner if he will accept more customers.
I think we could fill a rack here pretty quick.  Im just not sure if they have that kind of power capacity for
a full rack that will pull an ungodly ammount of amperage even at 208V.  They usually only run 110V but he
hooked me up on 208V no extra charge.  Im just not sure what kind of load they can handle on their 208V
circuits since they normally only run 110 and may have limited 208V power circuits.
Ill post again when we finally get to that day.  Only a month and some change now to go till the Aug batch gents Smiley

If RoadStress and Guy were able to ship me one EARLY in July I could always get the ball rolling earlier Cheesy
LOL, a guy can dream Smiley

Im waiting till my SP30 is hooked up till I give that out.
They may not like that many people sending them servers that sound like a Jet Engine.

Please count me in Smiley

I am in the line, after ZiG, of course  Grin
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@hardhouseinc

Please add this location to the hosting directory thread.
Sp30s are going to produce a much less whiny sound.
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Im waiting till my SP30 is hooked up till I give that out.
They may not like that many people sending them servers that sound like a Jet Engine.

Please count me in Smiley

I am in the line, after ZiG, of course  Grin
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While comparing miners here:

Bitmains S3 is basically the competitor to the sp10.

However, I have no doubt that bitmain will come up with a fully rackmountable 4U 1-2kW solution with 0.5W/GH at the wall.
This will in turn be the main competitor to the sp30, and should not require a preorder.

Exciting times, let´s see how it goes.

How so? SP10 are not for sale anymore and are much more expensive/less efficient/less home friendly than an s3. Also don't forget that 0.77w/gh is before underclocking. I wouldn't be surprised if the S3 was already capable of 0.5w/gh at the wall.

9btc buys you 6TH in 2 weeks or ~3 months. It's a pretty simple choice if you ask me.


Where do you get these numbers on which is a better value?
What is your fetish with Antminer and Rockminer? Its like comparing a 10 year old 22" brick of an monitor with a
new LG LED.  You could have something that takes up an entire 6 foot shelf or something that fits in a 2U server rack slot.

What does it cost you to run 12 S3 units?
Lets look at that shall we?

You are going to need at least 6 BIG power supplies.
So that 2 S3 units for 1.5BTC is now more like 2 units for closer to
1.8BTC with a good 1000W minimum Corsair power supply.
So, now you are at near 11BTC for all the hardware.
Thats abouot $7000 at current exchange.
SP30 at the group buy was MUCH cheaper.  $4500 ring a bell?

NOW, at my current hosting location, I can run my SP30 for $150 a month on 208V power
and around 20 - 22 degree temps.  It doesn't matter if it uses 100 or 10,000 KWH.

Lets add up the power usage of the S3.
12 S3 units at 370W each = roughly 4,500 Watts.
Now, Im going to give you a VERY generous power rate at 10C.
I know most people here are paying around 15C.
That is nearly $330 a month in power.  Plus the amount of space
and tangled cables you need to run 12 is ridiculous compared to taking up
2U of space at my data center.

AND, I think unless BTC hits a stable $800 and NEVER drops, mining other ALT coins is
going to be much more profitable VERY soon.  If megabitpower adds their 50PH of hashing
to the BTC network per month like they want to do, well to hell with BTC mining.  Its dead.
Let the fuckers have it.

Where is this colocation data center ...that you "can run my SP30 for $150 a month" ...and " It doesn't matter if it uses 100 or 10,000 KWH"... Huh

I would like to use it too ... Cheesy

ZiG

Im waiting till my SP30 is hooked up till I give that out.
They may not like that many people sending them servers that sound like a Jet Engine.

Its in the US and was a friend of a friend here in Japan who I got introduced to.
They are top notch nice guys.  Had never touched any ASIC before and figured out how to
set mine up with the instructions I made for them, and even did an emergency recovery when
they messed something up doing the static IPs.
Im paying $225 a month for 2 of the SP10s.
They charge me by the rack space U, no power consumption.
Since they use almost zero internet bandwidth they were cool with them using up more power
than the average server.
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They claim to ship July 10 I guess, so right about when the first SP30s will be shipping, give
or take a week or two.
ZiG
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While comparing miners here:

Bitmains S3 is basically the competitor to the sp10.

However, I have no doubt that bitmain will come up with a fully rackmountable 4U 1-2kW solution with 0.5W/GH at the wall.
This will in turn be the main competitor to the sp30, and should not require a preorder.

Exciting times, let´s see how it goes.

How so? SP10 are not for sale anymore and are much more expensive/less efficient/less home friendly than an s3. Also don't forget that 0.77w/gh is before underclocking. I wouldn't be surprised if the S3 was already capable of 0.5w/gh at the wall.

9btc buys you 6TH in 2 weeks or ~3 months. It's a pretty simple choice if you ask me.


Where do you get these numbers on which is a better value?
What is your fetish with Antminer and Rockminer? Its like comparing a 10 year old 22" brick of an monitor with a
new LG LED.  You could have something that takes up an entire 6 foot shelf or something that fits in a 2U server rack slot.

What does it cost you to run 12 S3 units?
Lets look at that shall we?

You are going to need at least 6 BIG power supplies.
So that 2 S3 units for 1.5BTC is now more like 2 units for closer to
1.8BTC with a good 1000W minimum Corsair power supply.
So, now you are at near 11BTC for all the hardware.
Thats abouot $7000 at current exchange.
SP30 at the group buy was MUCH cheaper.  $4500 ring a bell?

NOW, at my current hosting location, I can run my SP30 for $150 a month on 208V power
and around 20 - 22 degree temps.  It doesn't matter if it uses 100 or 10,000 KWH.

Lets add up the power usage of the S3.
12 S3 units at 370W each = roughly 4,500 Watts.
Now, Im going to give you a VERY generous power rate at 10C.
I know most people here are paying around 15C.
That is nearly $330 a month in power.  Plus the amount of space
and tangled cables you need to run 12 is ridiculous compared to taking up
2U of space at my data center.

AND, I think unless BTC hits a stable $800 and NEVER drops, mining other ALT coins is
going to be much more profitable VERY soon.  If megabitpower adds their 50PH of hashing
to the BTC network per month like they want to do, well to hell with BTC mining.  Its dead.
Let the fuckers have it.

Where is this colocation data center ...that you "can run my SP30 for $150 a month" ...and " It doesn't matter if it uses 100 or 10,000 KWH"... Huh

I would like to use it too ... Cheesy

ZiG
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What does it cost you to run 12 S3 units?
Lets look at that shall we?

You kinda forgot the most important fact. When the S3 starts hashing.
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I believe mine have different batches in the same unit.

What are good starting voltages for me?  Just a reminder that I'm on 110v.

DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 0 (0xD0) = 0x2


Post Asic Stats, please.

I would suggest to start with 0.650 on 110V. After some 30-60 minutes voltages will settle down, you will see in your asic stats page. Just take the lower value and use it as your starting voltage.
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While comparing miners here:

Bitmains S3 is basically the competitor to the sp10.

However, I have no doubt that bitmain will come up with a fully rackmountable 4U 1-2kW solution with 0.5W/GH at the wall.
This will in turn be the main competitor to the sp30, and should not require a preorder.

Exciting times, let´s see how it goes.

How so? SP10 are not for sale anymore and are much more expensive/less efficient/less home friendly than an s3. Also don't forget that 0.77w/gh is before underclocking. I wouldn't be surprised if the S3 was already capable of 0.5w/gh at the wall.

9btc buys you 6TH in 2 weeks or ~3 months. It's a pretty simple choice if you ask me.


Where do you get these numbers on which is a better value?
What is your fetish with Antminer and Rockminer? Its like comparing a 10 year old 22" brick of an monitor with a
new LG LED.  You could have something that takes up an entire 6 foot shelf or something that fits in a 2U server rack slot.

What does it cost you to run 12 S3 units?
Lets look at that shall we?

You are going to need at least 6 BIG power supplies.
So that 2 S3 units for 1.5BTC is now more like 2 units for closer to
1.8BTC with a good 1000W minimum Corsair power supply.
So, now you are at near 11BTC for all the hardware.
Thats abouot $7000 at current exchange.
SP30 at the group buy was MUCH cheaper.  $4500 ring a bell?

NOW, at my current hosting location, I can run my SP30 for $150 a month on 208V power
and around 20 - 22 degree temps.  It doesn't matter if it uses 100 or 10,000 KWH.

Lets add up the power usage of the S3.
12 S3 units at 370W each = roughly 4,500 Watts.
Now, Im going to give you a VERY generous power rate at 10C.
I know most people here are paying around 15C.
That is nearly $330 a month in power.  Plus the amount of space
and tangled cables you need to run 12 is ridiculous compared to taking up
2U of space at my data center.

AND, I think unless BTC hits a stable $800 and NEVER drops, mining other ALT coins is
going to be much more profitable VERY soon.  If megabitpower adds their 50PH of hashing
to the BTC network per month like they want to do, well to hell with BTC mining.  Its dead.
Let the fuckers have it.
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I believe mine have different batches in the same unit.

What are good starting voltages for me?  Just a reminder that I'm on 110v.

DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 0 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 1 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 2 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 3 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 4 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 5 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 6 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 7 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 8 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 9 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 10 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 11 (0xD0) = 0x2
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 12 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 13 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 14 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 15 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 16 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 17 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 18 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 19 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 20 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 21 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 22 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 23 (0xD0) = 0x0
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HashFail also promised MPP so nothing new...

Edit:

Code:
Upgrading 1.4.8 to 1.5.2 ... done.

Yes, sorry, I forgot to upload image earlier, now all works.
This image has option to configure top and bottom boards starting voltage separately.
That is not relevant for miners you have because you all have single corner ASICs inside, it is ONLY for miners that have TOP and BOTTOM boards from different batches - I have several SP10s like that in my lab so I added it. (also if you will send your miner to us for repair in case you drop it or something and we replace a board you might need this functionality)

This image also has fix for a loop stability issue seen on some miners from version 1.4.XX something with DCR type 1. It also shows top and bottom board temperatures in the main screen.

Regards`


Code:
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 0 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 1 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 2 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 3 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 4 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 5 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 6 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 7 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 8 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 9 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 10 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 11 (0xD0) = 0x0
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 12 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 13 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 14 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 15 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 16 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 17 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 18 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 19 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 20 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 21 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 22 (0xD0) = 0x1
DC2DC DCR inductor flag loop 23 (0xD0) = 0x1

I haz laboratory stuff  Cool
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HashFail also promised MPP so nothing new...

Edit:

Code:
Upgrading 1.4.8 to 1.5.2 ... done.

Yes, sorry, I forgot to upload image earlier, now all works.
This image has option to configure top and bottom boards starting voltage separately.
That is not relevant for miners you have because you all have single corner ASICs inside, it is ONLY for miners that have TOP and BOTTOM boards from different batches - I have several SP10s like that in my lab so I added it. (also if you will send your miner to us for repair in case you drop it or something and we replace a board you might need this functionality)

This image also has fix for a loop stability issue seen on some miners from version 1.4.XX something with DCR type 1. It also shows top and bottom board temperatures in the main screen.

Regards`
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