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legendary
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I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
Last quote i got was 78 €/kw for small customers, ofcourse this only gets cheap if you order multiple racks (ideally a whole DC container, then they can give you all the cooling you want)

Let's start working some details with them and then let's start a Group Buy for hosting. I am sure that there are a lot of small miners in Europe who would love to colocate their rigs if they will have nice price/kw.

Excellent! Strength in numbers. I like it

(Let me know if you need help)

Thank you for the support!

Collider how would you feel contacting the DC again and start discussing some terms?

@DevonMiner my August SP30 units will be hosted in the WA DC. Don't like it? Or just want a DC that is closer to home?

@bobsag3 keep us updated while we wait for some prices
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We will have a Hydro-powered data center built in OR here in June/July, all Sp30s are welcome Smiley
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Let's start working some details with them and then let's start a Group Buy for hosting. I am sure that there are a lot of small miners in Europe who would love to colocate their rigs if they will have nice price/kw.

YEP! Sounds like a good idea ... +1 for being interested in this ... my August SP30s have to be hosted ... somewhere ... I've been searching.

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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs

I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
Last quote i got was 78 €/kw for small customers, ofcourse this only gets cheap if you order multiple racks (ideally a whole DC container, then they can give you all the cooling you want)

Let's start working some details with them and then let's start a Group Buy for hosting. I am sure that there are a lot of small miners in Europe who would love to colocate their rigs if they will have nice price/kw.

Excellent! Strength in numbers. I like it

(Let me know if you need help)
legendary
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I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
Last quote i got was 78 €/kw for small customers, ofcourse this only gets cheap if you order multiple racks (ideally a whole DC container, then they can give you all the cooling you want)

Let's start working some details with them and then let's start a Group Buy for hosting. I am sure that there are a lot of small miners in Europe who would love to colocate their rigs if they will have nice price/kw.
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
newbie
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I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.

Can you share the details with info@ ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfury-design-licensing-mass-production-83332
In this thread Bitfury talks about the options he got in Iceland when looking for a DC solution (for his 13 kw FPGA rack solution)
Most of the stuff should still be accurate.
(in the middle of the thread there is an excerpt from a conversation he had with the DC guys)

Basically, they get really cheap when you can rent a whole container.

Yes, that's the one.
hero member
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I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.

Can you share the details with info@ ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitfury-design-licensing-mass-production-83332
In this thread Bitfury talks about the options he got in Iceland when looking for a DC solution (for his 13 kw FPGA rack solution)
Most of the stuff should still be accurate.
(in the middle of the thread there is an excerpt from a conversation he had with the DC guys)

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[5/22/2012 11:02:04 AM] Andreas Fink: http://www.sgi.com/products/data_center/ice_cube_air/
[5/22/2012 11:02:17 AM] Andreas Fink: put them in such a shelter, we provide power and internet and put it into the green field
(datacell.com)

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Special high power deals available for bitcoinmining and other CPU intensive applications
(datacell Website)

Basically, they get really cheap when you can rent a whole container.

Thor Datacenter (Advania data centers) also provide (modular) solutions in Iceland.

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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.

Can you share the details with info@ ?
hero member
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I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
Last quote i got was 78 €/kw for small customers, ofcourse this only gets cheap if you order multiple racks (ideally a whole DC container, then they can give you all the cooling you want)
newbie
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.

Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost.

It's not the same cost. Well the power cost is nice, but we also have to pay for a half cabinet while using only part of it. During the last weeks I've sent a lot of e-mail to a lot of datacenters in Europe and no datacenter is ready for bitcoin miners colocation. We need a datacenter which can supply a lot of power for small boxes. Paying for a 21U cabinet to use just a part of it is wasting money.
That is true, however i wouldn´t bother with any DC in Europe (except Iceland) as their power cost isn´t competitive on a global scale.
DCs in Iceland can typically handle a good power density, as their free air cooling is superb.

Washington State has some DCs equipped for high density, but you will not get any service there, if you are only looking for 1-2 racks. They sell corporate volume only.

Keep in mind that most DCs are older, and 6kW/rack was considered plenty.

I talked to a DC in Iceland and they gave me a price of 95 EUR per kW per month. That comes out to about the same price.
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.

Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost.

It's not the same cost. Well the power cost is nice, but we also have to pay for a half cabinet while using only part of it. During the last weeks I've sent a lot of e-mail to a lot of datacenters in Europe and no datacenter is ready for bitcoin miners colocation. We need a datacenter which can supply a lot of power for small boxes. Paying for a 21U cabinet to use just a part of it is wasting money.
That is true, however i wouldn´t bother with any DC in Europe (except Iceland) as their power cost isn´t competitive on a global scale.
DCs in Iceland can typically handle a good power density, as their free air cooling is superb.
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High-density POD can provide up to 24kWh of natural free cooling.

Washington State has some DCs equipped for high density, but you will not get any service there, if you are only looking for 1-2 racks. They sell corporate volume only.

Keep in mind that most DCs are older, and 6kW/rack was considered plenty.
legendary
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.

Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost.

It's not the same cost. Well the power cost is nice, but we also have to pay for a half cabinet while using only part of it. During the last weeks I've sent a lot of e-mail to a lot of datacenters in Europe and no datacenter is ready for bitcoin miners colocation. We need a datacenter which can supply a lot of power for small boxes. Paying for a 21U cabinet to use just a part of it is wasting money.
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.

Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost.

It comes out to be about the same cost.
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I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.

Is that viaWest? so basically around the same cost.
newbie
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I am only hosting one in a local DC , and some more at the spondoolies facility, so they are worrying about the power distribution Wink

As for sp30s, i am probably going to go with the longterm hosting solution provided by spondoolies, which will be 290$ per month and sp30.

I don´t want to worry about finding a DC with the capacity for high density deployment, so i am going with the fully outsourced model on this.
It also includes a good SLA, specifically for miner hosting, making sure you don´t pay for stuff you don´t need.

What is the cost per sp30 you are looking at with your facility?

Most of the places i checked out weren´t really competitive if you don´t go for multiple racks, sadly.
The ones with cheap power also typically dont bother with "small-time" customers.

I have a quote of $400 for a half cabinet (21U) + $15/amp. If each SP30 is about 15 amps at 208v then it should come out to $225 per SP30 + $400 fixed cost.
hero member
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I am only hosting one in a local DC , and some more at the spondoolies facility, so they are worrying about the power distribution Wink

As for sp30s, i am probably going to go with the longterm hosting solution provided by spondoolies, which will be 290$ per month and sp30.

I don´t want to worry about finding a DC with the capacity for high density deployment, so i am going with the fully outsourced model on this.
It also includes a good SLA, specifically for miner hosting, making sure you don´t pay for stuff you don´t need.

What is the cost per sp30 you are looking at with your facility?

Most of the places i checked out weren´t really competitive if you don´t go for multiple racks, sadly.
The ones with cheap power also typically dont bother with "small-time" customers.
newbie
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DC staff is normally very helpful, you can always ask how much power they will be able to provide to your rack.

For two sp30, calculate a power usage of 6kw to be on the safe side.

I very much doubt they would install a PDU with too little power if you tell them, you need X Kw.

They've been very helpful so far. How many SP10 / SP30s are you hosting in a DC?
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DC staff is normally very helpful, you can always ask how much power they will be able to provide to your rack.

For two sp30, calculate a power usage of 6kw to be on the safe side.

I very much doubt they would install a PDU with too little power if you tell them, you need X Kw.
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Question to the hardware savvy folks:

Do you believe that the following PDU will be able to support two SP30 machines:
http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP8861&tab=models
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APC offers units that bring up to 14.4kW using a single branch whip.

Yes, if you get one with enough power Wink as i read it, there are different versions available.

However, why do you want a PDU? Most DCs offer remotely managed outlets for little additional monthly cost, or it is included in the lease of the rackspace.

You do understand that this won´t provide any backup power (if this is what you are looking for) and most power conditioning features are already performed by the high performance server PSUs built into sp30.
It already has over current / under current, surge ... protection...

If the build quality will be the same as sp10, and there is no reason to doubt that, you won´t need to do any remote hard-resets and usually DC staff can perform this if needed.

They're installing this PDU for my rack and I want to make sure it can handle the machines. Thanks for your answer.
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