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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 615. (Read 1260363 times)

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Question to the hardware savvy folks:

Do you believe that the following PDU will be able to support two SP30 machines:
http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP8861&tab=models
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APC offers units that bring up to 14.4kW using a single branch whip.

Yes, if you get one with enough power Wink as i read it, there are different versions available.

However, why do you want a PDU? Most DCs offer remotely managed outlets for little additional monthly cost, or it is included in the lease of the rackspace.

You do understand that this won´t provide any backup power (if this is what you are looking for) and most power conditioning features are already performed by the high performance server PSUs built into sp30.
It already has over current / under current, surge ... protection...

If the build quality will be the same as sp10, and there is no reason to doubt that, you won´t need to do any remote hard-resets and usually DC staff can perform this if needed.
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Question to the hardware savvy folks:

Do you believe that the following PDU will be able to support two SP30 machines:
http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=AP8861&tab=models
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Are the SP10's in hosting tuned to a lower speed? Mine doesn't seem to be performing as specced.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6898739



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Where can I find the setup guide? Is there a guide for overclocking as well?

Connect the Ethernet and power cables, browse from a laptop connected to the same network to http://myminer.io
The user / password is admin / admin

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/14214997-quick-start-guide-and-certificate-of-conformity
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Where can I find the setup guide? Is there a guide for overclocking as well?
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Suggestion: On the SP10 summary page, 'Best Share' should be displayed in Metric prefix; That is, with k, M, G, T

eg. atm it displays:

Best Share
    6681579

it would be easier to read if it was:

Best Share
   6.6M

Cheers,
QG

It's best to email such suggestions and bug reports to [email protected]
It will get captured by our zendesk
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Suggestion: On the SP10 summary page, 'Best Share' should be displayed in Metric prefix; That is, with k, M, G, T

eg. atm it displays:

Best Share
    6681579

it would be easier to read if it was:

Best Share
   6.6M

Cheers,
QG
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... how they calibrate/characterize the temperature sensors. IIRC your temperature sensors are intentionally low-resolution: something like 10C,20C,30C,... What is the achieved accuracy of step-crossing temperature for your existing chips that were already manufactured?

Our Temperature Sensor's spec is +/- 5%. The +/- 5% represent limits with 3-sigma probability. Practically its accuracy is much better. Temperature Sensor of every produced chip is tested as a part of chip's production test. Automatic calibration is a part of the sensor so no any additional calibration is required. The Thermal sensor IP was bought from GUC and it's silicon proven.
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That looks great.

As TSMC recently announced a longer lead-time for 28nm production, please reaffirm everyone that you aren´t affected by this.

Is this delay only for "new" orders, and your order was previously placed with them?

Thank you.

We don't order directly from TSMC. GUC pre-allocated our production slots. We're good regarding July and August batches.
We might be affected in our September batch. We'll know soon when we'll PO the ASICs for September order (beginning of June).

About Global Unichip:
It's TSMC subsidiary. Look at GUC board of directors here
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That looks great.

As TSMC recently announced a longer lead-time for 28nm production, please reaffirm everyone that you aren´t affected by this. (and maybe include a short description why)

Is this delay only for "new" orders, and your order was previously placed with them?
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Has the 28nm chip been taped out yet?

Hey, I missed you, my friend.

Yes, we've taped out. The project is on track regarding spec and dates.

Guy

Very nice.

I'm surprised you guys didn't announce it ASAP. Don't you know garnering preorders 101?

It seems that the most commonly missed deadline is tapeout so in my non-expert opinion the chances of delays are greatly reduced.

However still very skeptical of july delivery let alone august although I have a feeling I may be proven wrong by this company.

Is this blog post good enough ?

See, I'm getting better  Wink

How those AM dividends coming along ? (couldn't resist  Grin)
You understand that AM will have very hard time compete on 28 ?
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... how is the exhaust air temperature measured? where is the sensor located and what type of sensor is it? (possible the name and model ) I assume the front/back temp are intake/exhaust air temp ...


It's the weekend in Israel, it might take few days to answer

Understood,

Btw, what is the command line for checking stats of the miner?

Regarding the temperature sensor, Harel replied:

We have one sensor on the MNG that monitor the incoming air and one sensor on each of the Main board monitoring the exhaust air.
It's TI LM75AIMX/NOPB, you can find the info here

For board related questions, please contact harel@ or benny@
For sw questions, please contact zvi@
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Old debt. Some technical data and slides from RockerBox tapeout review done 10 days ago at Global Unichip.
Thanks. Could you ask them why they used TOGGLE_RATE 0.2? For SHA-256 TOGGLE_RATE should be 50%, this is pretty much a design goal for any one-way hash function.


This is part of our IP Wink

We reduced the engine toggle rate by using innovative algorithm implemented in the Verilog. No need for custom design, we can move fast between process nodes.
It's already working in the Hammer - proven design.
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Old debt. Some technical data and slides from RockerBox tapeout review done 10 days ago at Global Unichip.
Thanks. Could you ask them why they used TOGGLE_RATE 0.2? For SHA-256 TOGGLE_RATE should be 50%, this is pretty much a design goal for any one-way hash function.

Edit: Bonus question: Ask them how they calibrate/characterize the temperature sensors. IIRC your temperature sensors are intentionally low-resolution: something like 10C,20C,30C,... What is the achieved accuracy of step-crossing temperature for your existing chips that were already manufactured?
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SP can you please provide a link to some rackmount ears for the SP10?

There are so many options, I just want some that work on the SP10 without going through the trial-and-error of ordering the wrong ones a few times.

PM me if you are worried that it may seem you are "endorsing" a product.

It's custom made. Please contacts [email protected]
We'll add it as a product in our store soon.

The ears we can provide are only the front side mounting ears and you will need to add some additional mounting element to the rear side.
 
We are planning to solve it for the SP30 and to provide ears for both sides that may fit most if not all racks.

Mechanical drawing of the mounting ears can be found here

Those fit only the front side of the SP10 unit.
For a proper installation of the unit in a rack you should use either a 19” rack mount shelf or an additional bracket to be mounted on the rear side of the unit.
Using the front rack mount ears only is not enough to hold the unit to the rack.

The SP30 rack mount ears will be provided with the unit and will fit standard 19” racks.
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Indeed, I'm not an ASIC technical guy.
Point taken. After Passover holiday (towards the end of next week) we'll publish some more technical data.
I do however know the exact status of the project and it's timeline. And everything I've said is true.

As explained multiple time before. The 2nd gen is a simple die shrink of our 1st gen ASIC. It's essentially the same engine.
Well, there enough people here who understand that with a simple die shrink noise margins shrink faster than the consumed power.

Anyway, I will gladly wait for an update after Nissan 22nd, 5774.

Meanwhile, please enjoy a belated happy Purim song, because I don't know any Passover songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5T25pdNBVU


Old debt. Some technical data and slides from RockerBox tapeout review done 10 days ago at Global Unichip.

Floorplan



Static IR in MLG 0.72V 85C



Static IR in 0.8V 125C



Dynamic IR in 0.8V 125C VCD mode



And my favorite ("RockerBox ultrasound"):

Engine pipeline placement



Not from the tapeout review, but also interesting:

Thermal simulation of SP30 Yukon ASIC board


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SO, its hard to explain, need a video inside the home made server cabinet.
Ill look for a picture of the rack before I did the sound dampening with foam.
SO, the rack is standing in the corner of the room.
The AC unit is attached to the wall directly behind and above the SP10s level.
It is a two piece AC unit.
It has copper pipes that go outside to the pump.

The AC has a directional blade to set the air to shoot right into the front of the
intake.
The hot air is going toward the wall, or in this case, it is a balcony door.
If I could open the balcony door, the hot air would go right out, but SOOOOO loud.
Outside I could hear them running two blocks down the street with the sound bouncing
off buildings the whole way down.
I think with the balcony door wide open and the AC unit on full blast in FAN MODE only to
save on AC electricity use, it would work fine since the heat would go right out the window that
is about 3 feet away.

If you could make a piece of AC conduit, and a mounting piece on the back
of the sp10 to direct the hot air out the conduit, make some baffling or something,
then the heat would go right out the door.

Something like this could work well to get the hot air out the door and not leak into
the room, and possibly help with the noise outside a little....

Anyone know where to get an AC DUCTING setup like this in the picture....??

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6800182

Someone in the SP10 GB page had an idea with AC pipe conduit.  I think then you could baffle
the sound out the end of the conduit somehow and also direct the hot air out the room and not
into the room at all.  More efficient if it could work right I THINK.
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A lot of noise?
Suitable for a small apartment??

Not really. You might want to find another place to host it.

This was my DIY soundproofing / AC cold air containment project.
The AC is rated for a large room.  Now its cooling about 10 sq feet.
Set at 25 degrees I can keep the front air intake at 24 degree.
Bottom SP10 about 26 since it picks up some of the heat from above.
AC adds very little power useage luckily since it runs VERY efficient for
such a small space but WOW, those things PUMP out hot air if you stand
behind them.



https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26417929/Video%20May%2020%2C%207%2003%2040%20AM.mov

I just found some cheap rack hosting in the US through a friend of a friend.

I did this for the time being.
1 inch foam around the 7 foot rack from floor to ceiling.
It has a 220V AC BLASTING into the little self contained closet.
NO ventalation because if I open the balcony you can hear it 2 blocks
down.
Ive got it down to under 25db now I think.
Maybe hang a blanket down from the ceiling too would drop it even
lower but I can sleep in the room.  I did start using one earplug though to sleep
easier.



er you lost me on the no ventilation part? the rear end of the a/c unit is hanging out of a window right?

confused...on this 'alien pod' concept

Searing
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