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Topic: [ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming) - page 23. (Read 790365 times)

newbie
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Helium will fail. Spread will recover
Also, Bittrex will not add Helium
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority


It's this or he's a scammer. I tend to think he had the best of intentions, I don't think he was out to screw people or lie purposefully. I really think he buys into his own claims.
legendary
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Decentralize Everything

Is there any reason why other developers, perhaps previous SPR team members, can't simply proceed to develop Spreadcoin and move the project forward without Georgem?

Since Georgem probably runs the website, has the Github, the spreadcointalk forum site and this ANN thread, that's hard. At that point, you are better off to think about forking off SPR to a new coin... could be named HLN or something like that.

Ideally, Georgem would either work with a new team or step aside, but that's both unlikely.

Georgem has repeatedly refused to work with other people.  He once said that the only person he would work with was gjhiggins but you can see for yourself how that relationship is going.

There is no need for a SPR fork.  In any case, the distribution for SPR is looking a bit worrying. The majority of the SPR core team moved on to Crown which has made huge progress in the last year and the remainder have started Helium.  I'm sure Helium will also go on to do good things in time.

Its just George left here now. Anybody who has tried to help him has been insulted and maligned and has moved on.

Ask yourself this.  What progress is there to show from the last two years? The codebase is several Bitcoin core releases behidn where it needs to be.  Literally the only thing that has been delivered is a vanitygen that nobody really wanted.
legendary
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Decentralize Everything
Of the original SPR team, only one member held SPR at the time of the HLM swap. Two, if Georgem still holds SPR.

Is there any reason why other developers, perhaps previous SPR team members, can't simply proceed to develop Spreadcoin and move the project forward without Georgem?

I'm asking as a non-developer who doesn't fully understand how open-source development works.

There's nothing to save.  At the moment, you have one person who controls all the public identity of spreadcoin.  As far as I have seen, there has been no code progress for over a year and anything that does exist is on Georgem's raspberry pi testnet.

As far as I am concerned, there is nothing worth saving here.  Sad but true.  This is why the entire SPR team (apart from Coins101) sold their SPR over a year ago and moved on to greener pastures. Although to be fair, I did think there was a chance that Georgem would deliver something back then...I just didn't trust that he had the experience to deliver something that anybody actually wanted. 
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Is there any reason why other developers, perhaps previous SPR team members, can't simply proceed to develop Spreadcoin and move the project forward without Georgem?

Since Georgem probably runs the website, has the Github, the spreadcointalk forum site and this ANN thread, that's hard. At that point, you are better off to think about forking off SPR to a new coin... could be named HLN or something like that.

Ideally, Georgem would either work with a new team or step aside, but that's both unlikely.
legendary
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Of the original SPR team, only one member held SPR at the time of the HLM swap. Two, if Georgem still holds SPR.

Is there any reason why other developers, perhaps previous SPR team members, can't simply proceed to develop Spreadcoin and move the project forward without Georgem?

I'm asking as a non-developer who doesn't fully understand how open-source development works.
legendary
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Decentralize Everything
Of the original SPR team, only one member held SPR at the time of the HLM swap. Two, if Georgem still holds SPR.

Just to be clear, I posted a message earlier that was needlessly derogatory to somebody  and I regretted it so I have deleted it.
legendary
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Of the original SPR team, only one member held SPR at the time of the HLM swap. Two, if Georgem still holds SPR.
legendary
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What happened is a small group of early SPR investors decided to take matters into their own hands, since they disagreed with the direction of Spreadcoin development.
(They always wanted a DASH-Clone, I want to create tools (spreadwallet, spreadminer, testnet-in-a-box) so I can solve the puzzle of creating a truly decentralized network of servicenodes)

Because this group didn't want to let go of their advantage of having accumulated millions of SPR during the past 3 years, they decided to do a coin swap to transfer their holdings to a new coin and keep the percentages of their portfolio intact.

Is that why you deleted all my posts from spreadcointalk? So no-one could call you out on the fact that it was you who created the split by explicitly challenging the other SPR technical contributors to recruit their own group of supporters and let the best team win? The copying of the public ledger to a more contemporary codebase is just the logical and entirely predictable consequences of your instigation.

I've never bought your story; 30 years in IT and still as trivially-minded and butt-hurt as a teenager? Doesn't add up for me. I've largely kept my own counsel on my extremely low opinion of your emotional maturity and intellectual depth as project lead because you've been doing such a good job of communicating it yourself, as the quoted posting above transparently attests.

You failed to take the hint - the Helium folks have bent over backwards, both to adhere to the community-oriented approach they believe in and to support the community of people supporting Spreadcoin from which they freely and earnestly acknowledge Helium's origin. This stance included maintaining a deliberate position of not criticising the Spreadcoin project but instead presenting Helium as a completely independent alternative  which, as I have observed, is an entirely logical and predictable consequence of your initial throwing down of the gauntlet.

By continuing to make these juvenile barbs, you continue to offer yourself as a rather sad figure of fun. Your emotional immaturity was what precipitated this “fork” in the first place and it was also the instrumental and direct cause of my terminating my contributions to Spreadcoin back in March of 2016 - I know a “kiss of death” when I see one.

Now that there is no longer anything that could be easily mis-described as dissent that can be hallucinated to hinder progress on Spreadcoin, I look forward to what are bound to be increasingly entertaining attempts on your part to explain the ever-widening gap between your descriptions of the world and the reality.

The only real hope for Spreadcoin is if you can actually manage to muster a mature response to this event instead of the transparently distorted juvenile view that you apparently hold and are, sadly, unable to rise above.

Cheers

Graham
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legendary
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...negativity of the project forking.

This is bullshit, Spreadcoin didn't fork.

Maybe its community did (although I still see lots of cockroaches lurking around, it's like they are not very happy with their new home (HLM) yet, ... Roll Eyes )

Spreadcoin didn't fork.

What happened is a small group of early SPR investors decided to take matters into their own hands, since they disagreed with the direction of Spreadcoin development.
(They always wanted a DASH-Clone, I want to create tools (spreadwallet, spreadminer, testnet-in-a-box) so I can solve the puzzle of creating a truly decentralized network of servicenodes)

Because this group didn't want to let go of their advantage of having accumulated millions of SPR during the past 3 years, they decided to do a coin swap to transfer their holdings to a new coin and keep the percentages of their portfolio intact.

That's that!
I guess everyone is happy now?  Grin

jsyk

i didnt dump any of my Spreadcoin even though I was well aware the price would tank after the Helium snapshot.
Now I have Spread and Helium.. win win.
Too bad everyone else didn't do same as me ...but that was wishful thinking.
Good luck with the Spreadcoin Georgem, despite all this fud I'm still a fan.
After solo mining it for a year with 2 dinky little 750ti's, Spread will always be my "pet" coin   Cheesy






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(They always wanted a DASH-Clone, I want to create tools (spreadwallet, spreadminer, testnet-in-a-box) so I can solve the puzzle of creating a truly decentralized network of servicenodes)

So the main question is will work continue with spread? I would love to see it move forward and have masternodes on its mainnet.

I will continue working until we create one singular mega masternode. Send all of your coins to me, and we together will make this a coin for the people! One node overlord.

Centralize everything!
sent Wink
newbie
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(They always wanted a DASH-Clone, I want to create tools (spreadwallet, spreadminer, testnet-in-a-box) so I can solve the puzzle of creating a truly decentralized network of servicenodes)

So the main question is will work continue with spread? I would love to see it move forward and have masternodes on its mainnet.

I will continue working until we create one singular mega masternode. Send all of your coins to me, and we together will make this a coin for the people! One node overlord.

Centralize everything!
full member
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(They always wanted a DASH-Clone, I want to create tools (spreadwallet, spreadminer, testnet-in-a-box) so I can solve the puzzle of creating a truly decentralized network of servicenodes)

So the main question is will work continue with spread? I would love to see it move forward and have masternodes on its mainnet.
legendary
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spreadcoin.info
...negativity of the project forking.

This is bullshit, Spreadcoin didn't fork.

Maybe its community did (although I still see lots of cockroaches lurking around, it's like they are not very happy with their new home (HLM) yet, ... Roll Eyes )

Spreadcoin didn't fork.

What happened is a small group of early SPR investors decided to take matters into their own hands, since they disagreed with the direction of Spreadcoin development.
(They always wanted a DASH-Clone, I want to create tools (spreadwallet, spreadminer, testnet-in-a-box) so I can solve the puzzle of creating a truly decentralized network of servicenodes)

Because this group didn't want to let go of their advantage of having accumulated millions of SPR during the past 3 years, they decided to do a coin swap to transfer their holdings to a new coin and keep the percentages of their portfolio intact.

That's that!
I guess everyone is happy now?  Grin
newbie
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It will go back mini to 30k+sats. Wink  Cool you will see

cheer to who buy now
legendary
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spreadcoin.info
I agree and would like to see a new thread for this coin post fork. Lets see more positive development in a new thread to alleviate the negativity of the project forking.

You can start as many new threads as you like, lol

I'm going to stay here in this thread.

BTW, @new_patreon_supporter, thanks for your support. I wrote you a message. Let's continue discussion on spreadcointalk.org
newbie
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I agree and would like to see a new thread for this coin post fork. Lets see more positive development in a new thread to alleviate the negativity of the project forking.
hero member
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But the entire community seems so dead . Most posts seem prior to 2017 and hardly any new updates on developments.
Just confused!

Look at the chart. In February the price was under $0.02. Then a new project called Helium announced they would give one Helium for each Spreadcoin users held at some point in the future.

That 'point in the future' was earlier this week.

Now, if the market is rational, the price will return to a level appropriate to the value of the Spreadcoin project only. You will need to decide for yourself if it would make sense for the price to return to February levels or not.

Well I do certainly realise that, but yet, I'm not expecting a 2$ again but for all projects pre q1 2017,have by initself grown to over 100x by now and stabilised.
Would this be able to hit the 17-25k sats regions atleast? If guess it surely can.

Coin funding vide versa from what u would imagine. For example u put 1 dollar per coin as of quarter 1, 2017 and wait for 10 months in hopes ur stake will jump in value. Instead of making moves in ur favor market does the opposite tanks and price slides to zero. Thats what investing is all about and how u should act.
hero member
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Hi,
I recently got some SPR as part of the HLM swap and have decided to keep it and run some nodes. The project seems quite interesting and I'm much more interested in supporting both as I can rather than picking favorites.

I have a Raspberry Pi and am trying to run the daemon software, however I've not really been able to so far.

I'm untarred it and chmod +x it, however it doesn't give any feedback via console. I'm running the Raspberry Pi 3 as well as their included OS.

Is there any guide available for setting it up? I'm somewhat of a novice with Linux however I'm excited by setting a few of these up so would appreciate any help.

Thanks.
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