Topic: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes - page 32. (Read 810028 times)

Bend the Knee!



 

just kidding!

I bow to your superior knowledge.

Cheers

Graham

So how does bitcoin do it?
Who is responsible / liable for the gitian-built wallets you can download at bitcoin.org?

Isn't the MIT license handling exactly the things you are so afraid of?

http://opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php

Most important part of this license:

"THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND"

You're not the only one hoping for a visit from the software fairy.

But even so, what you're wishing for won't help anyone much. It's not the process of compiling the linux binaries that typically presents problems, the nightmare is in the identification of the precise population of the architecture- and version-specific support libraries that are required for the successful compilation/execution of Windows and Mac binaries for different versions of the respective OSes/architectures. The process is so involved and time-consuming (typically, days of trial-and-error compilation required) that those who've been consistently successful are obliged to amortize the cost commercially by selling the service.

It's not rocket surgery and I'd be quite prepared to take a stab, except that it'd be a week/fortnight's work in return for a grand sum of about $5. It just doesn't make economic sense unless I can amortize the cost in a sustainable way.

Those looking to a future for the SPR blockchain have few options: crowdfund a commercial solution or pitch in individually on a volunteer basis either to build OS-specific binaries on their own platforms and find a solution for the distribution and liability issues (the most significant barrier) or fund their generation by a limited-liability commercial service.

In short, the collectively-chosen product option does not include support for gitian builds, this is an optional extra with an associated additional cost aimed at providing some liability protection for the publisher from “your binary lost my 3.5 million SPR, you’ll be hearing from my lawyer”.

Lots of angles change dramatically when the business plan is taken seriously; volunteers receive scant protection and in consequence are extremely vulnerable to vexatious assumptions of liability. By contrast, those who provide limited-liability commercial solutions are well-protected and vulnerable only to liabilities arising from their own malfeasance.

Cheers

Graham

A few rigs all ready and lined up 

Is the plan to stick with SpreadX11?

If so (booo!  ) I'm quite tempted to put some effort into a SPR multipool.

As a first step I would be happy if someone could just build linux 32/64bit binaries using gitian, complete with signatures etc...
and create a tutorial / video explaining how he did it.

We can then have other people reproduce the build process and see if they end up with the same signatures.

That would be the idea behind trusted binaries.

Later we can then try this with windows/mac binaries.

Looks like a near full house, just need to document for SPR.

Looks like I need to create a github account.

When it gets closer, PM details of any costs.

This could also help:

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/gitian-building.md

https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder

Bitcoin build process, example: https://gist.github.com/devrandom/806265

All instructions: https://gitian.org/

DASH use:

https://github.com/dashpay/dash/tree/master/contrib/gitian-descriptors

Release process: https://github.com/dashpay/dash/blob/master/doc/release-process.md

300 SPR for who ever can give the correct instructions to do this.

Yes, if someone can find out how to cross compile with gitian for all systems, that would be great.

Cheers, makes sense now. Thought Vertoe and MrSpread were related.

Dunno about that but I can hazard a guess ... they are context-specific views, the same 18 forks viewed from different devs' perspective:

https://github.com/vertoe/spreadcoin/network
https://github.com/spreadcoin/spreadcoin/network
https://github.com/spreadcoin-project/spreadcoin/network
https://github.com/gjhiggins/spreadcoin/network
https://github.com/bitbandi/spreadcoin/network

etc. Lord knows where it gets 18 forks from but that total is common to all of the gh SPR repos, the fact of that consistency probably has a meaning.


You won't find the Darkdoin fork as such, Spreadcoin was a “proper” fork in that the prior DRK commit history was not carried over (which it would be in a clone) so there's no reference to darkcoin contributors in spreadcoin's commit history.

Yes, vertoe used GH to fork spreadcoin at some point after 11 Feb, its position in the push-down stack on https://github.com/vertoe?tab=repositories suggests that it was done quite a while ago. No surprises there AIUI.

HTH

Cheers

Graham

Who knows how github works with tracking participants



I can't find the darkcoin fork, but I can find the initial commits and they seem to start with Vertoe, or he has forked spreadcoin somehwere?

https://github.com/vertoe/spreadcoin/network

Yeah, whats the spr/Mhash/day rate?

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Wow that text thing is weird...    Long live S̷̡̭͕͈̫͓͈̯̥̖̝̬̭̟͓̮̥ͫ̾ͬͤ̈̑̆̌̌p̘͚̠͓͙͉͈̹̺̣̺͓̞͆͆ͫ̑͛ͩ͛̕͝r͔̼͙͖̭͉͔̤̦̯̫͇̠̬͕̈́́̾̇̂ͥ̅̌̔ͤ̅̌ͪ̀̉ͭ̽̓̚͢͡ę̵̷̛̭̞̙͖̯̙̩͚̞̠͉̜͓͈͚ͣ̿̌ͯͩ̓̔̎ͬͦͯͧͤ̌̿ą̶̡̲̝̭̫̯̙̻͍̰̫̜̟̟ͯ̂̒ͧ͡ḋ̶̷̥̣͖̖̻͈͓͔̞̜̗̬̭̯͙̒̇̋͐̌̒c̨̙̦̖̻̖̬̩̗͎̜̻̺̙̩̰̬ͯ̂̀ͦ̏͌͆͊͑͂ͪ̈͑ͩͪ̉ͬ̔͝ͅơ̸͉̟̞͇͇̻̟̙̠͎̼͔̗̝̩̺̦͔͌́̋ͤ̏̔ͯ͋̑̑̊͛͘i̵̫̠̹̭͓̝͉̫͛͂͆͌͆̄̋̂͆̒̎ͯ̃̂͞n̡͕͔̮̟̹͉̫̜̯̳͖̠̭ͭͮ̂͛ͦ̑ͪ͋̒̔ͫͦͩͭ̋̀̚͢͞

Can anyone from the community help you with these endeavors in anyway?

Good news 

Solo mining Spread is so easy.  Once people get it, its really hard to find anything better.

Yes, new ANN is approaching fast, just a few more things I have to finish first.
Stay tuned.

Thanks a lot!

I am currently working on the new website (with blockexplorer + all downloads)

Stay tuned for a few more days!