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Topic: [ANN] Storjcoin X (SJCX) - A Coin for Decentralized Cloud Storage - page 41. (Read 400980 times)

hero member
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Decentralized Jihad
One of coins I do want to keep after IPO/presale ends instead of dumping. I wish the devs have great success with the project! Smiley
legendary
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Is IPO over in six days?
newbie
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What if the goal of 9800 BTC isn't reached after 6 days?!  Huh
Refund?
Or are my coins lost?
hero member
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If you dont understand that then you didnt do enough research.

But allright, here is your answer. Found it on the CLD thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8298112.

Bit more research next time allright?
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what is the number of total coins?
thx.
There will be 500,000,000 SJCX total.
legendary
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will investe some later.
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what is the number of total coins?
thx.
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For anybody wondering, MaidSafe and Storj compare in the sense that they are attempting very similar things just in a different way. The two plan on integrating at some point as well.
sr. member
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Threw in what was left in my wallet. I need to go get more SJCX.

Thanks!
legendary
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Great find on the economics. Can you throw up a SJCX tip address?
Storj could you cross post this in our forum? Might be worth doing some more research on this.

Tips are great!!! 17jLdysPxcatDUxHr8Z3xX2sUeCV3Hcah5

Thank you, and I hope this info can be useful in helping to convince any skeptics out there how much Storj is needed and how successful it is going to be!
Threw in what was left in my wallet. I need to go get more SJCX.
sr. member
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Great find on the economics. Can you throw up a SJCX tip address?
Storj could you cross post this in our forum? Might be worth doing some more research on this.

Tips are great!!! 17jLdysPxcatDUxHr8Z3xX2sUeCV3Hcah5

Thank you, and I hope this info can be useful in helping to convince any skeptics out there how much Storj is needed and how successful it is going to be!
legendary
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Great find on the economics. Can you throw up a SJCX tip address?
Storj could you cross post this in our forum? Might be worth doing some more research on this.
sr. member
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On a different note, there's an interesting discussion over on Maidsafe.org about the economics of a coin that's linked to the value of storage. In a (badly butchered I'm sure) nutshell, the cost of storage has decreased by about 30% a year -- how does that effect the value of the coin? (Now that I tracked down the link, the OP has added an edit stating he thinks the value will rise, but it's an interesting discussion in any case.)

Here is an interest, if slightly old (2012) article which may allay an fears over this issue:  http://blog.dshr.org/2012/10/storage-will-be-lot-less-free-than-it.html

Some of the main takeaway points:

"
  • According to IDC, the demand for storage each year grows about 60%.
  • According to IHS iSuppli, the bit density on the platters of disk drives will grow no more than 20%/year for the next 5 years.
  • According to computereconomics.com, IT budgets in recent years have grown between 0%/year and 2%/year.
"

So basically, whilst the cost of a given unit of storage is going down, the total cost of storage is going up. Therefore:

"10 years from now, storing all the accumulated data would cost over 20 times as much as it does this year. If storage is 5% of your IT budget this year, in 10 years it will be more than 100% of your budget. "
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First off, I'm very interested in Storj and will likely at least invest a bit. I'm still not really clear on the technical details and really wish the crowdsale wasn't started until things were a little more clear. Obviously things can change even if they were well defined, so I can live with some ambiguity, especially as you all seem up front about it.

For everyone calling scam, perhaps you should do some research.  Shawn and David, the two guys behind Storj and Maidsafe, are seen hear talking with each other.  They both have stated that their projects should eventually compliment each other...and the dev work for both is already progressing well.  I'm on the Maidsafe side but appreciate what Storj is doing...so do some research before calling scam!

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/maidsafe-development/VS7PVXweMsc

Thanks for the link (clickable version), interesting read. I'm assuming the technical aspects are outdated though, or no?

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My team and I have been working on some prototype front end software that allows users to store files on our prototype decentralized network. Storj is able to easily keep track of files on multiple networks, but doesn't handle the core physical storage of the file. That is where MaidSafe can come in. I think with just a bit of Python, can link the MaidSafe software to the prototype front end software. This will provide MaidSafe with its first solid decentralized application running on top of the network, which also could be a nice little demo to show around. It will solves Storj's problems in terms of providing scalable decentralized storage for the prototype.

This wouldn't seem to leave much of anything for Storj to do and I'm not sure why the coin would be necessary, or have value. I'm guessing this is out of date, but I'm still wondering where the data will live.

On a different note, there's an interesting discussion over on Maidsafe.org about the economics of a coin that's linked to the value of storage. In a (badly butchered I'm sure) nutshell, the cost of storage has decreased by about 30% a year -- how does that effect the value of the coin? (Now that I tracked down the link, the OP has added an edit stating he thinks the value will rise, but it's an interesting discussion in any case.)


Hi,

Our current specs can be seen on github.com/Storj.

In regards to your second question I have actually been doing some reports and thinking about the economics behind a commodity/ currency that is based off of digital storage. I have not made my way over to the maidsafe article you pointed out but I will read that as soon as I am done.

It is simpply just a supply and demand idea that is behind most currencies. Let us say that in the early stages of Storj we have a user that joins who is bringing a lot of demand with him/her (might be a video producer or an engineer that has huge files to store on our network) obviously they are willing to pay more and that will drive the price of SJCX up. Now, on the flip side, you have a person that wants to make some decent profit off of Storj and brings massive amount of data but not much use to use it. This increase in storage will bring the price of SJCX down a bit. But again, once Storj grows to the scale we are hoping for, these fluctuations will be quite small because of the amount already there.

And yes you are correct that storage is getting cheaper, but if you look at it from the other side; there is a lot more demand that is coming soon from all the companies and large groups of people that are going to start to store data on the "cloud"

I would love to have a discussion about the economics behind Storj if you would like to email me with questions: [email protected]

Great questions!

We really appreciate your thoughts and are glad you are involved.

Cheers
hero member
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I posted that merely to show that there was a dialogue with an established dev to show credibility...it might well be out dated...

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newbie
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First off, I'm very interested in Storj and will likely at least invest a bit. I'm still not really clear on the technical details and really wish the crowdsale wasn't started until things were a little more clear. Obviously things can change even if they were well defined, so I can live with some ambiguity, especially as you all seem up front about it.

For everyone calling scam, perhaps you should do some research.  Shawn and David, the two guys behind Storj and Maidsafe, are seen hear talking with each other.  They both have stated that their projects should eventually compliment each other...and the dev work for both is already progressing well.  I'm on the Maidsafe side but appreciate what Storj is doing...so do some research before calling scam!

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/maidsafe-development/VS7PVXweMsc

Thanks for the link (clickable version), interesting read. I'm assuming the technical aspects are outdated though, or no?

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My team and I have been working on some prototype front end software that allows users to store files on our prototype decentralized network. Storj is able to easily keep track of files on multiple networks, but doesn't handle the core physical storage of the file. That is where MaidSafe can come in. I think with just a bit of Python, can link the MaidSafe software to the prototype front end software. This will provide MaidSafe with its first solid decentralized application running on top of the network, which also could be a nice little demo to show around. It will solves Storj's problems in terms of providing scalable decentralized storage for the prototype.

This wouldn't seem to leave much of anything for Storj to do and I'm not sure why the coin would be necessary, or have value. I'm guessing this is out of date, but I'm still wondering where the data will live.

On a different note, there's an interesting discussion over on Maidsafe.org about the economics of a coin that's linked to the value of storage. In a (badly butchered I'm sure) nutshell, the cost of storage has decreased by about 30% a year -- how does that effect the value of the coin? (Now that I tracked down the link, the OP has added an edit stating he thinks the value will rise, but it's an interesting discussion in any case.)
newbie
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Pocketfullofapps interviewed Shawn Wilkinson (super3) while he was in San Fran at Coin Congress. Here is the interview for those that are interested: http://pocketfullofapps.com/2014/07/27/coin-congress-interview-with-shawn-wilkinson-of-storj.html
legendary
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Well it allows you to do basic proof-of-existence as well in a stronger chain. You can't do it directly because the tx fees would kill you.
newbie
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Well designed website, though I still don't understand how it works, how would 'Decentralized Cloud Storage' be possible? I don't think you can use blockchain to transfer files or the size is gonna be huuuuuge... Explanation would be good Smiley
This is correct, you would quickly run into something called blockchain bloat, and well as some terrible legal implication. Instead we can use the blockchain to "point" to a file on the network. This also allows us to support multiple decentralized data networks.

Not sure if this has already been answered, but which blockchain are you planning to use to store your file pointers? Its not the bitcoin blockchain, is it ??
No, in the Storjcoin X blockchain. We may integrate it later on into the Bitcoin blockchain if treechains or sidechains ever become a thing.

The Bitcoin blockchain is quite secure with so much computational mining behind it. How does the security of storj blockchain work? 51% attack?
So now that I think about it we can actually do both. We can store periodically store merkle roots or block hashes in the Bitcoin blockchain. Also considering also using notary chains as another solution.

yes, for possibly storing checkpoints into the bitcoin blockchain but nothing more
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