Topic: [ANN] SuperNET NXT asset 12071612744977229797, SUPERNET KMD assetchain in summer - page 117. (Read 736772 times)

What if clone thing replaces supernet? 

That's possible but probably good to give people encouragement to redeem as soon as possible.

one sentence about clonenet:

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.



@valarmg

how many tokens are not redeemed yet? if there are still some to be redeemed maybe its possible to give someone else control over the redeem account for the time while you are on holiday?

Announcement regarding Token->SuperNET redeems. Everyone should have redeemed by now, and for those who haven't it's going to start taking a lot longer to get your assets.

I'll do a redeem on Wednesday, after that I'm on holidays for 2 weeks, so there'll be no redeems over that time. So if you want to get your superNET in a timely manner, send before this Wednesday.

Can someone mention in the OP or other superNET information that everyone should redeem in the next few days or else they can expect delays of weeks, during which time they could miss dividends.

Your right, I think everyone should stay away from XC. Nom Nom Nom....it's obviously a scam...Nom nom nom. The Xchat works but it's clunky...nom nom nom....the mixer is fantastic...I mean terrible...nom nom nom. Don't mind me just eating all the cheap XC...Nom nom nom.

guys.  I don't like the supernet - I think it's a largely wasted time.  

But that said - the Blocknet is a lame attempt from a desperate dev to pump altcoins.  His primary coin is still closed sourced.

For what it's worth IF supernet works well and brings much to the table that people actually use (which I very seriously doubt).  I don't think you need to worry about blocknet.

cheap imitation clone from an anonymous coin that is still closed sourced from a desperate developer trying to milk a few more bucks out of stupid fanboys.

i mean - the guys sell a tornet stick browser labelled xc and then the latest release of their coin never works on linux.  only windows.

and it looks like they're doing a good job with marketing... We need to get more information about supernet out before these guys steal our thunder!! http://bitcoinist.net/blocknet-the-internet-of-blockchains/

This and Bitmark are the only times in my life where I've seen development outpace all other aspects of a project!

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I don't know if you know how much myself and others hold you in awe so to speak, I don't mean hero worship just expletive deleted how do you do it? I read your thread with the maths head about anonymity and keys

and just ended up shaking my head by the end of it. You sir are a living legend. Thank you and the team, once again great work

Jon  

Ran into some complications with secure key exchanges for the bootstrapping. I did solve them, but it will take another day or so as it is quite tricky to do it without leaking any IP info.

Cassius now understands it well enough to start writing a description for it.

Now that there is a 25+ node network, I am getting some very good test cases and I had to fix a bunch of bugs.

James

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Promising.

James will you add Node coin? its base on Node.js and i am sure you already know about that 

Thanks, I've realized now! will be waiting...

Late redeemers have to wait longer. You'll still get your superNET, but it might take a few days or a week. In another while, it might take even longer. (If you haven't yet sent your TOKEN, do so now. Or sooner!)

Those who sent this week should get their superNET this evening or tomorrow, hopefully.

Could you please help me to realize what is mean time to exchange TOKEN <-> supernet in AE. I've sent some TOKENs to the specified address at http://thesupernet.org/ 2 days ago and still no incoming transactions. Did I do smth wrong?

Thanks.

The aud ience to give up their rec eive losses, there is no other, develop pride!

I "wasted" a bit of time recently while I waited for more servers to come online for expanded DHT testing and bruteforced some interesting curve25519 properties. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9170663
Also got a good education from andytoshi who really knows all this crypto math.

Anyway, as it often happens I get lucky and as I was battling the issue of how to do the key exchange and deaddrop address exchanges, the recent curve25519 lessons solved it nicely with the basic shared secret that automatically comes from curve25519.

On one node:
./b SuperNET '{"requestType":"addcontact","handle":"jl777","acct":"NXT-P3K3-M9XB-5MDG-DVNT8"}'
shared.(ad021e641e6c65e357921fe8348f4d0718f7f81e89a058071d0e73fb3873)
ADD.(jl777 -> NXT-P3K3-M9XB-5MDG-DVNT8)
{"result":"(jl777) acct.(NXT-P3K3-M9XB-5MDG-DVNT8) (12927190866050319905) has pubkey.(45ec94823354d56c549b475c5e3ffd49c9c2cf4a366deed809bfba38dd756318)"}

On another node:
./b SuperNET '{"requestType":"addcontact","handle":"s0","acct":"NXT-Z6JT-5TB6-EXSL-48JPG"}'
shared.(ad021e641e6c65e357921fe8348f4d0718f7f81e89a058071d0e73fb3873)
ADD.(s0 -> NXT-Z6JT-5TB6-EXSL-48JPG)
input.({"requestType":"addcontact","handle":"s0","acct":"NXT-Z6JT-5TB6-EXSL-48JPG"}') -> ({"result":"(s0) acct.(NXT-Z6JT-5TB6-EXSL-48JPG) (2834459742776037913) has pubkey.(7b689a7b0035bcaa944ac5d38415ebbe81a9fa2f3f3cb3898872a5075bed1a15)"})

I decided to just use the same pubkeys that is in the NXT blockchain. Since I can directly generate the pubkey and privkey and already auto-generate accounts via linked addresses, just by using a single coin address, you can get a universal pubkey that SuperNET can use to encrypt things to your node.

The blue shared secret is something that only the two nodes are able to generate and so now not only can I encrypt the comms directly between the two nodes, I can find a key to store these comms in the cloud without worry about it being spoofed, plus even if the address is figured out somehow, it has to be encrypted and only from the specific other party.

Another key advantage to using the permanent pubkeys is that now transactions can happen in non-realtime. This was one of the few weaknesses of Teleport, but now things would just progress as far as they can as each party is online. Basically, the cloud becomes a virtual fully encrypted bi-directional peer to peer communications channel for arbitrary data.

All built on top of onion routed Telepathy DHT comms to non-existent deaddrop addresses with an encrypted attachment. Also at the DHT level, all these Telepathy requests will look like they are coming from the same account. There is no need to authenticate the outer part of the packet as it will be fully authenticated inside the attachment. I think the fact that it decrypts using the shared secret is enough authentication, hopefully someone will correct me if I am wrong on this assumption.

I already have all packets the same size (1400 bytes) and they are randomly delayed/shuffled to prevent timing analysis and with nobody knowing the actual destination I believe we have unlinkable IP addresses while using IP packets.

The cloud location where the deaddrop addresses are exchanged will be calculated based on:
sha256(sha256(acct || sharedsecret))
The inside hash value will be the encryption key for the contents using AES. Maybe I will reverse that, yes that seems a bit better to make the encryption key one step beyond the location.

So a lot of progress!

James

NHZ may be a clone but they seem to have some aim to reworking the code in an effort to make it better.  My point is that the term 'clone' as a label is not entirely accurate since they are rebuilding and redirecting rather than copy/paste/expect from community. 

And I can appreciate that the crossing out of clonenet was done because blocknet is not based on Supernet code as far as I have read.

Silently invested in BTCD et cetera so please don't take my comments as anything more than an interest in being fair.  I have respected your expression and coding for quite some time and think that there is no need to dive into petulance.