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so someone is selling tokens/btc cheaper than ico price on BTER Smiley



It might be arbitrage.  They might be buying and selling in BTCD, NXT, and BTC.  They have figured out a small way to beat the system.  The prices of each of these coins are going in different directions, up and down. 

Could just be somebody is scared. 
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I am a not really connected to James in anyway.  Here are my thoughts about James and his work.  Just a straight up honest appraisal.  As a loose follower of the NXT community I have been checking up on his updates for about 4-5 months.  

As a coder, he is decent. His best strength comes from his ability to keep on going and going and going.  This has been proven to be a sign of very successful people.  They just keep on going no matter what.  He apparently makes lots of mistakes when coding, runs into lots of problems, but he is willing to give it another try relentlessly until it works.  I think this reminds me of Satoshi a little bit.  Satoshi was meant to be a poor coder, but at least got it working.  

As a thinker, he has quite the creative imagination.  Again, this reminds me of Satoshi, but in a different way.  Satoshi very clearly knew what he was building and why.  As a troll previously stated, James just has a wet dream in the middle of the night and starts coding, and releases an asset the next day based on a barely working idea and even less of a working code.  That being said, it seems like issuing this assets drives him to make these projects come to fruition.  Something like, they paid for it so I have to build it.  I think James often doesn't even know exactly what he is building or what it will do until it is actually finished.  I think of Satoshi and James as authors.  Satoshi outlined the whole dam book, knew exactly what the main characters would be and why and what and then wrote it.  James just starts with chapter one and writes and lets the story take him somewhere, anywhere.  In a way it is a bit dangerous, in a way it is a bit beautiful.  

As a business man, he isn't very good. The asset's percentages, the asset's functions, the assest's everything isn't quite clear.  There is no clear overarching webpage describing them and how they interconnect.  Lots of little random posts here and there that a person has to research and put together in their own mind.  This is one of the reasons I think that so many people can't understand his vision.  There is no Ethereum  like webpage nicely laid out that explains everything to a newbie calming their fears.  On top of that, he is attempting something that hasn't been done before and since it isn't explained well it is hard for people to grasp.  Really, it isn't even coded yet.  Really!  He is writing it as we speak.  I am pretty sure he doesn't even know how it is going to exactly look once it is done.  

As a mover in the crypto world, this guy is revolutionary.  I watched for months and months as he said he was going to build the first decentralized trustless exchange.  The basic metaphorical holy grail of bitcoin.  No more Gox, no more shady dude far away stealing your coins.  Everybody said it couldn't be done.  Time after time he coded and talked about his problems.  Time after time he kept on going.  And even though I haven't used it, apparently its beta is out.  That yes, you can now do exchanges in what turned turned out to be an almost trustless distributed exchange where more or less nobody is ever going to steal your coins.  This is something that is way better than any other option out there.  It hasn't exactly caught on, the bitcoin community and altcoin community is quite anit-NXT in many ways, but in time I think more and more people will switch to it.  Especially once more coins are on it (I think it just has a few now).  When it has 30-50 coins, it will be a real powerhouse.  And now that he proved it was possible to build an exchange that won't rip people off, he has come up with this supernet idea.  It is a bit crazy, crazier than his exchange idea, but I am fairly confident that once it is finished, it will be more or less around what he promised it to be.  And he has set his goals pretty high this time.    

As a creator, I think he is a great conceptualist, and an okay coder, and an so-so marketer.  I think if he could get the kind of marketing that Ethereum has, he would be the hero of the land.  His biggest weakness is that he has too many projects and doesn't really see them through to the end.  He basically just wants to do the really cool and key things and leaves the rest to others to do.  He will write a really cool code with a really cool code and then just leave it out there for another to make the GUI.  Who? He doesn't really know.  Just somebody is okay.  So a lot of his projects don't have a polished face for the average person to see.  I think he believes that somebody will see the beauty of his vision and help him out and make nice GUIs since he built the engine.  His marketing kind of sucks to.  He comes up with an idea, presents it, and then midstream kind of changes his mind.  Since he is the majority holder of almost all his assets, nobody is really putting money into pumping them.  The only person financially vested in doing so is James and he is off in code land working on his next big idea, instead of finishing and marketing the last.  

The end result is that I think that eventually his tech will get polished, will get marketed, and will get used.  This whole thread reads like the original BCnext thread for NXT.  Everybody screaming scam.  Going back and reading that thread and knowing that people that pitched in $100 became crypto millionaires stings.  I think generally this has been the problem with NXT all along.  Some good ideas and good code but often very late to the marketing game, hard to get people behind it, and hard to get their product polished just right.  Too many people working in too many directions.  

As for me, I bought some Token.  It won't get the returns that NXT got as there was only 71 btc raised, but still am guessing that it will be worth something someday.  
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What are the details of the purchasing of BTCD and other coins at the end of the fundraising?
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What's with the dump? Seems stupid.  lol
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to your stations, man the pineapples!!!

so someone is selling tokens/btc cheaper than ico price on BTER Smiley

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Suit yourself ostrich

And BTCD is just another crap useless gen1 coin that is pretending to be something else : "oh look it will be a mediator between nxt and alts in the superjoke network !"

mLOL


The BTCD wallet and NXT asset exchange are two of the most innovative things I have ever used.

Just because you missed the boat, don't understand them, don't have a clue what the Supernet is actually doing, and are probably a hired hand who makes chump-change and definitely doesn't know how to punctuate, you shouldn't knock a group of people who are pioneering crypto beyond its current limits; with plenty of code to prove it. It's clearly not beneath you to do so, but you probably couldn't find your floor if your life depended on it (though it's pretty clear to the rest of us where it is).

While you "blow wind," Supernet is already making acquisitions, including a large percentage of the "Fiver" of crypto and one of the best "Freelance" crypto sites on the net. There's new, verifiable news EVERYDAY, verified/legitimate escrow services involved in the giant amount raised, and I have a strong feeling your coins and assets aren't nearly as powerful, communicative, ballsy or profitable.

If you had any balls at all, you'd put your money where your mouth is and take James up on his generous bet offer. You likely can't afford to, however.

If you aren't a hired hand, you sadly didn't read far back enough through the GIANT tome of fully community-verified information readily available to even know what I am talking about.

Feel free to keep making a total fool of yourself. Wink

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small victory over the build process.
after almost 100 builds today, I finally got a small 3 node network talking to each other. Not really so impressive, but some small differences in the system libraries somehow created build problems. I have one server running ubuntu 13 and this never gave me troubles, but the other two with ubuntu 14 caused strange problems. After getting everything rebuilt, one server was happy and even though I think I got everything all the same, the third server is still having issues.

probably some mismatched system component I am using, but I took a shortcut for now and just copied the binary from the server that made a happy version

things are always slow when dealing with issues not in your own code.

So, it took a while but now I can finally start finding bugs in my own logic.

James
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Suit yourself ostrich

And BTCD is just another crap useless gen1 coin that is pretending to be something else : "oh look it will be a mediator between nxt and alts in the superjoke network !"

mLOL


The BTCD wallet and NXT asset exchange are two of the most innovative things I have ever used.

Just because you missed the boat, don't understand them, don't have a clue what the Supernet is actually doing, and are probably a hired hand who makes chump-change and definitely doesn't know how to punctuate, you shouldn't knock a group of people who are pioneering crypto beyond its current limits; with plenty of code to prove it. It's clearly not beneath you to do so, but you probably couldn't find your floor if your life depended on it (though it's pretty clear to the rest of us where it is).

While you "blow wind," Supernet is already making acquisitions, including a large percentage of the "Fiver" of crypto and one of the best "Freelance" crypto sites on the net. There's new, verifiable news EVERYDAY, verified/legitimate escrow services involved in the giant amount raised, and I have a strong feeling your coins and assets aren't nearly as powerful, communicative, ballsy or profitable.

If you had any balls at all, you'd put your money where your mouth is and take James up on his generous bet offer. You likely can't afford to, however.

If you aren't a hired hand, you sadly didn't read far back enough through the GIANT tome of fully community-verified information readily available to even know what I am talking about.

Feel free to keep making a total fool of yourself. Wink
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Suit yourself ostrich

And BTCD is just another crap useless gen1 coin that is pretending to be something else : "oh look it will be a mediator between nxt and alts in the superjoke network !"

mLOL
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jl777 creates a new crap nxt asset each time he has a vision during his nightsleep lol

Next week, we'll NXTprophecy and NXTgundam, be prepared, only backed by wind.

This is ridiculous.

Another troll in my ignore list
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jl777 creates a new crap nxt asset each time he has a vision during his nightsleep lol

Next week, we'll get NXTprophecy and NXTgundam, be prepared, only backed by wind.

This is ridiculous.
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Now I will tell you a story how to become a coin in supernetwork.

There once was a coin named pesetacoin, she lives in Spain and used to be the Spanish currency before joining the Euro. And now its made as a crypto coin.

Pesetacoin always felt like an outcast because she did not have a special feature to join supernetwork. She could not be different as she was an utterly improvement of BTC and with lovely people supporting her trying to find an exchange to trade her, but only bittrex was her only exchange and felt was not good enough to be famous.

 Sitting at home one morning and reminiscing of her childhood, she remembered an old fairy tale about a green coin that granted wishes.

 Jobless and alone, Pesetacoin resolved to go in search of the green coin. So she packed her bags and set off toward...

 Half the way through her journey she thought " Oh no! How will I ever make it to the unsafe land without any special feature?

 Suddenly she saw a green coin flickering up ahead.

 As she crept closer she soon realised it was the green coin that she had hoped to run into.

 "Oh great magical green coin," Pesetacoin said, "please give me a special feature so I can join supernetwork."

 The green coin granted her the wish and she was so happy with the results that Pesetacoin came back with her amazing Silicon fake boobs to meet BTCD

Pesetacoin knocked on the door of Supernetwork house and BTCD opened the door with big eyes.

BTCD: wow, you have amazing features.

Pesetacoin: Thanks, does it mean I can join the supernetwork?

BTCD: OH yeah!

You see this story tell you that if you have a special feature that not other coin have you have a big chance to join the supernetwork.

Long Live James.
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I tell you another stories about Trolls.

BTCD was sitting crying the death of boolberry in the river at the hands of the trolls, His other lovers nxtty, rootcoin and vericoin were with him trying to cheer him up. Then suddenly a troll's spaceship landed in the roof of supernetwork house. Two trolls stepped out.

Then they walked up to BTCD, their feet making squishy noises against the cold, wet ground. Then they said "Take me to your bathroom!"

BTCD took them back to his place and they locked him out. Then, they screwed nxtty, rootcoin and vericoin and drank his vodka. The trolls visitors had carnal knowledge of his coins companion and imbibed the entirety of his supply of Russian spirits.

Finally they painstakingly dismantled the whole supernetwork house, jubilating and returning to the mother ship with shouts of 'mission accomplished.

They stumbled out to their ship and got onboard with big smile faces. BTCD could see through the tiny window, one was waving goodbye with one finger whilst BTCD, nxtty, rootcoin and vericoin sat down on the ruins of supernetwork crying.

This story tell you what Trolls are like, they just like to destroy, create damage, pain.

Long Live James

You're like my crazy, genius uncle when he gets drunk at the family picnic.
"troll's spaceship," "'Take me to your bathroom!" "they screwed nxtty."
I love your stories!  Smiley
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I am still trying to understand if dividends are paid out for holding UNITY for long term. I picked up a large number of litecoindark coins a few days ago at 1300. LTCD is now at 2800 on Bittrex. I am trying to decide if I should cash out some of them to buy more SuperNet tokens. I need to first understand how the UNITY dividends will be paid out. Can anyone here add light on how the dividends payout will work?

Don't take this as gospel, but most NXT assets that pay dividends pay to the holders of record as of the BLOCK the dividend is paid based on. I expect this will work in a similar way.
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Gals you got scammed hard, my condolences. Here's the cold truth and reality about JL777: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8807178

Jl777 is nothing but a smart ultra scammer taking advantage of you guys' endless greed.

Skinnkavaj is right in everything he posted. Neglect it or get real. See you on the Monero side.
I tire of this troll blabber. If you are so sure it is a scam, just make big bets against SuperNET making top10 by year end

In your mind this is free money right? So where are all the big bets?
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/supernet-in-top-10-of-coinmarketcap/
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/supernet-in-top-5-of-coinmarketcap-before-2016/

Talk is cheap. If you are so convinced you are right, put your money where you mouth is. Otherwise, kindly leave.

James

This is silly. If you're scamming everyone and will eventually run away with thousands of BTC, putting up a few as a bet against you being a scammer is hardly convincing.

I'm not saying you necessarily are, but this is not adding you any points.



Reposting this:

Is the post ICO buywall going to be at the original price or at the 15% increase? I suggest at the original price if you're not looking for an immediate dump.
I am not making any bets on betfair, I already made a big bet on these outcomes!
I am suggesting the trolls to stop wasting time and bet against the SuperNET if they are so convinced it is no good

The buywall will be at the NAV of the crypto from the funding that came in.
This will be calculated by converting the non-BTC to BTC equivalent using coinmarketcap price
then dividing by the number of TOKEN

I did an example of this some posts back. I estimate it will be around 0.0105 but it will depend on the price of NXT to some degree.

SuperNET is backed by the deposits and this is the mechanism for this backing.

i will also publish a UNITY asset NAV, which will be different from the TOKEN NAV as this will include the SuperNET assets I get and also the assets that I put in, along with the estimated value of any other things that can be easily quantified, eg. the 25% coinevolve revenue share is matching 1 million coinevolve assets, so this is adding an asset NAV to the UNITY.

this UNITY NAV is just an advisory number and maybe the market will use it for their trading, or maybe no, just a useful metric to measure the progress of SuperNET.

James
Tokens are now 0.0107 on Bter. This price is increasing daily. What's the advantage to buying at 0.0107 or higher if I can get them at 0.0105 from your buywall once the ICO is over?
it is hard to buy from a buywall
there will be no sell wall

buy wall means a BID to buy with at least 1% of capital
this is for liquidity so that people can cashout if they need to

with the price going from 0.0107 to 0.0115 the advantage is that 0.0107 is the lowest official price will be.
As to what price is available from sellers, this I cannot say as I am not going to be selling anytime soon
you will have to ask other TOKEN buyers what they will sell at.

last asset NAV was 0.0128 or so, maybe there will be TOKEN holders that will sell at asset NAV?
I am still trying to understand if dividends are paid out for holding UNITY for long term. I picked up a large number of litecoindark coins a few days ago at 1300. LTCD is now at 2800 on Bittrex. I am trying to decide if I should cash out some of them to buy more SuperNet tokens. I need to first understand how the UNITY dividends will be paid out. Can anyone here add light on how the dividends payout will work?
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Gals you got scammed hard, my condolences. Here's the cold truth and reality about JL777: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8807178

Jl777 is nothing but a smart ultra scammer taking advantage of you guys' endless greed.

Skinnkavaj is right in everything he posted. Neglect it or get real. See you on the Monero side.
I tire of this troll blabber. If you are so sure it is a scam, just make big bets against SuperNET making top10 by year end

In your mind this is free money right? So where are all the big bets?
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/supernet-in-top-10-of-coinmarketcap/
https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/supernet-in-top-5-of-coinmarketcap-before-2016/

Talk is cheap. If you are so convinced you are right, put your money where you mouth is. Otherwise, kindly leave.

James

This is silly. If you're scamming everyone and will eventually run away with thousands of BTC, putting up a few as a bet against you being a scammer is hardly convincing.

I'm not saying you necessarily are, but this is not adding you any points.



Reposting this:

Is the post ICO buywall going to be at the original price or at the 15% increase? I suggest at the original price if you're not looking for an immediate dump.
I am not making any bets on betfair, I already made a big bet on these outcomes!
I am suggesting the trolls to stop wasting time and bet against the SuperNET if they are so convinced it is no good

The buywall will be at the NAV of the crypto from the funding that came in.
This will be calculated by converting the non-BTC to BTC equivalent using coinmarketcap price
then dividing by the number of TOKEN

I did an example of this some posts back. I estimate it will be around 0.0105 but it will depend on the price of NXT to some degree.

SuperNET is backed by the deposits and this is the mechanism for this backing.

i will also publish a UNITY asset NAV, which will be different from the TOKEN NAV as this will include the SuperNET assets I get and also the assets that I put in, along with the estimated value of any other things that can be easily quantified, eg. the 25% coinevolve revenue share is matching 1 million coinevolve assets, so this is adding an asset NAV to the UNITY.

this UNITY NAV is just an advisory number and maybe the market will use it for their trading, or maybe no, just a useful metric to measure the progress of SuperNET.

James
Tokens are now 0.0107 on Bter. This price is increasing daily. What's the advantage to buying at 0.0107 or higher if I can get them at 0.0105 from your buywall once the ICO is over?
it is hard to buy from a buywall
there will be no sell wall

buy wall means a BID to buy with at least 1% of capital
this is for liquidity so that people can cashout if they need to

with the price going from 0.0107 to 0.0115 the advantage is that 0.0107 is the lowest official price will be.
As to what price is available from sellers, this I cannot say as I am not going to be selling anytime soon
you will have to ask other TOKEN buyers what they will sell at.

last asset NAV was 0.0128 or so, maybe there will be TOKEN holders that will sell at asset NAV?
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Buy wall, so you sell the tokens back at 0.0105 not sell wall where he will sell it to you at that price  Wink
Of course ... that makes sense. On a second note, I am still trying to understand if dividends are paid out for holding UNITY for long term. I picked up a large number of litecoindark coins a few days ago at 1300. LTCD is now at 2800 on Bittrex. I am trying to decide if I should cash out some of them to buy more SuperNet tokens. I need to first understand how the UNITY dividends will be paid out. Can anyone here add light on how the dividends payout will work?
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Buy wall, so you sell the tokens back at 0.0105 not sell wall where he will sell it to you at that price  Wink
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I tell you another stories about Trolls.

BTCD was sitting crying the death of boolberry in the river at the hands of the trolls, His other lovers nxtty, rootcoin and vericoin were with him trying to cheer him up. Then suddenly a troll's spaceship landed in the roof of supernetwork house. Two trolls stepped out.

Then they walked up to BTCD, their feet making squishy noises against the cold, wet ground. Then they said "Take me to your bathroom!"

BTCD took them back to his place and they locked him out. Then, they screwed nxtty, rootcoin and vericoin and drank his vodka. The trolls visitors had carnal knowledge of his coins companion and imbibed the entirety of his supply of Russian spirits.

Finally they painstakingly dismantled the whole supernetwork house, jubilating and returning to the mother ship with shouts of 'mission accomplished.

They stumbled out to their ship and got onboard with big smile faces. BTCD could see through the tiny window, one was waving goodbye with one finger whilst BTCD, nxtty, rootcoin and vericoin sat down on the ruins of supernetwork crying.

This story tell you what Trolls are like, they just like to destroy, create damage, pain.

Long Live James
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