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Topic: [ANN] Titanium - World's First Decentralised Cloud Services Provider 🚀 - page 43. (Read 81012 times)

newbie
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gonna dump TBAR the minute it hits my wallet.

This project is absolutely trashed.
sr. member
Activity: 574
Merit: 254
I think everyone here should stop panicking and just wait for the official statement of the team
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1005
People are doing trade on their own risk because it was clear said to stop trading on exchanges. These current price don't represent the value of token. This unfortunate people don't stop or listen such warnings and will loose money in the end by having worthless tokens that bought in this period of time. Better wait for updates and don't do anything.
hero member
Activity: 665
Merit: 500
BAR falling a lot today (-65%). Yesterday it was still $0.7 but today it's become $0.23, their ATH even more than $3.

Is there still any hope for this token?


the most important is we get profit someday, do not panic.
Yes, but after 100 years later. Don't you panic, do you?
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 500
How can this happen .Security is the biggest issue nowadays .Thats why ill keep my crypto in offline wallet.I still believe in Titanium and they will come back strong
All BAR holders hope so, and I'm also still optimistic that the team will do the best, let's be patient and wait for the next step, the most important is we get profit someday, do not panic.
member
Activity: 364
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How can this happen .Security is the biggest issue nowadays .Thats why ill keep my crypto in offline wallet.I still believe in Titanium and they will come back strong
newbie
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I am confused by your comment. You  are suspicious of the company and feel cheated in that they have misrepresented themselves. OK I get that but not sure I agree with your sentiment. We are all here to make money on our ICO investments. However, regardkess of your feelings I fail to see how you have been cheated in monetary terms. If your BAR tokens are replaced 1:1 with new TBARs then you have lost nothing in terms of money. And since it is early days and the token is not listed on bigger exchanges then you are imagining unrealized losses.
My advice is just to wait and hodle your TBAR tokens. If the company is even a fraction of a success then your TBAR tokens will be worth much more than what you paid.You can sell your tokens for profit.
If you thought this was going to be a fast swing trade for profit then you were wrong. Most ICOs fail and they few that make it can take a few years before they moon after they get their platforms set up  (eg. Populous, veritaseum, omisego).
And finally, if you are this emotional with your investments you should not be invested in highly speculative ICO start ups.
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Replacing BARs with TBARS 1:1 will not fix the problem

Reputation is gone, damage done, 90%+ regret investing in company and no new buyers believe in this CEO.

Micheal interviews are all fluff, car salesman style of talk and delivery


People get banned in TG for asking reasonable questions, its sad the way Titanium ended up
He took 35m USD and is  then someone steals his private keys, what moron keeps 16m tokens on one addy? I have 4 adresses and nowhere near that many coins.

This guy will screw up all the time, he has no deep knowledge and we are paying for it.
Selling timeshare on some beach would suit him better


Im all for ETH/BTC refund, others can have TBARs and good luck to them.



Now he says he wont honor replacing BARs with TBARS bought after certain period of time?

I can see this ending up as a lawsuit if not handled right









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AT the end , titanium is a full scam,, sorry for investor, lost all money...
newbie
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Are there any news in that case?

Did they give a new date for sending the tbar tokens ?

Yes I ask the same question as the should "automatic" be added, I see none in MetaMask.  Do I need to add the TBAR manually?
newbie
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Are there any news in that case?

Did they give a new date for sending the tbar tokens ?
newbie
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Dont forget that Michael bought 100M Electroneum lol... Just to add, I doubt he had 6-7 million of his own dollars laying around, that investment money for BARs comes in handy though.
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 13
Quote from: didi-man link=topic=2542292.msg31046320#msg31046320 date=1519572275/

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I am confused by your comment. You  are suspicious of the company and feel cheated in that they have misrepresented themselves. OK I get that but not sure I agree with your sentiment. We are all here to make money on our ICO investments. However, regardkess of your feelings I fail to see how you have been cheated in monetary terms. If your BAR tokens are replaced 1:1 with new TBARs then you have lost nothing in terms of money. And since it is early days and the token is not listed on bigger exchanges then you are imagining unrealized losses.
My advice is just to wait and hodle your TBAR tokens. If the company is even a fraction of a success then your TBAR tokens will be worth much more than what you paid.You can sell your tokens for profit.
If you thought this was going to be a fast swing trade for profit then you were wrong. Most ICOs fail and they few that make it can take a few years before they moon after they get their platforms set up  (eg. Populous, veritaseum, omisego).
And finally, if you are this emotional with your investments you should not be invested in highly speculative ICO start ups.



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Replacing BARs with TBARS 1:1 will not fix the problem
Reputation is gone, damage done, 90%+ regret investing in company and no new buyers believe in this CEO.
Micheal interviews are all fluff, car salesman style of talk and delivery
People get banned in TG for asking reasonable questions, its sad the way Titanium ended up
He took 35m USD and is  then someone steals his private keys, what moron keeps 16m tokens on one addy? I have 4 adresses and nowhere near that many coins.
This guy will screw up all the time, he has no deep knowledge and we are paying for it.
Selling timeshare on some beach would suit him better
Im all for ETH/BTC refund, others can have TBARs and good luck to them.
Now he says he wont honor replacing BARs with TBARS bought after certain period of time?
I can see this ending up as a lawsuit if not handled right
 

Again your logic seems confused. Would you blame the house owner or the robber who steals the furniture? Seems you are blaming the owner and not the thief.
At some point the company will complete the TBAR for BAR swap. Anyone dumb enough to buy BAR tokens after the company no longer supports that token are on their own.  It seems reasonable to me that at some point the company will walk away from BARS and not be responsible for them.
It also  sounds like  you have lost confidence in the CEO and/or team.  At least you might have the opportunity to get your ETH back.
There are many new ICOs to invest in other than Titanium.
Good luck moving forward to other ICOs.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100

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I am confused by your comment. You  are suspicious of the company and feel cheated in that they have misrepresented themselves. OK I get that but not sure I agree with your sentiment. We are all here to make money on our ICO investments. However, regardkess of your feelings I fail to see how you have been cheated in monetary terms. If your BAR tokens are replaced 1:1 with new TBARs then you have lost nothing in terms of money. And since it is early days and the token is not listed on bigger exchanges then you are imagining unrealized losses.
My advice is just to wait and hodle your TBAR tokens. If the company is even a fraction of a success then your TBAR tokens will be worth much more than what you paid.You can sell your tokens for profit.
If you thought this was going to be a fast swing trade for profit then you were wrong. Most ICOs fail and they few that make it can take a few years before they moon after they get their platforms set up  (eg. Populous, veritaseum, omisego).
And finally, if you are this emotional with your investments you should not be invested in highly speculative ICO start ups.
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Replacing BARs with TBARS 1:1 will not fix the problem

Reputation is gone, damage done, 90%+ regret investing in company and no new buyers believe in this CEO.

Micheal interviews are all fluff, car salesman style of talk and delivery


People get banned in TG for asking reasonable questions, its sad the way Titanium ended up
He took 35m USD and is  then someone steals his private keys, what moron keeps 16m tokens on one addy? I have 4 adresses and nowhere near that many coins.

This guy will screw up all the time, he has no deep knowledge and we are paying for it.
Selling timeshare on some beach would suit him better


Im all for ETH/BTC refund, others can have TBARs and good luck to them.



Now he says he wont honor replacing BARs with TBARS bought after certain period of time?

I can see this ending up as a lawsuit if not handled right








sr. member
Activity: 630
Merit: 253
I think the Titanium team has really done a great job in try to address this huge security bridge in the company by immediately stopping trade, its really unfortunate knowing that someone among dev team could betray the trust they had, once Tbars has been replaced, the culprit will have nothing but lose with his stash, if the team are dedicated, project will still be a success.
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 13
I agree ,having replacement Tbars will happen BUT...if the company cannot look after their own security ......
Just saying

Yes, this seems like an issue. But can any organization protect itself from inside hacks? Just look at security breaches by Manning and Snowden. If someone on the inside of an organization wants to steal info (or analogous to ICOs , steal tokens). Even the best security won't stop inside hacks and data thefts.  There is a difference between the platform's cloud security and the company's operating business security. Hopefully Titanium will beef up it's business IT security after this incident.
 
newbie
Activity: 72
Merit: 0
I agree ,having replacement Tbars will happen BUT...if the company cannot look after their own security ......
Just saying
member
Activity: 392
Merit: 13
I don't think so. They have been transparent about every single action they took and it would be sad to see this great idea being buried by some idiot hacker. We shouldn't allow for that to happen as a community.

I don't think so.. would you care to explain..They are changing their statement with every update ??

Ummmm..... Not to state the obvious but that is why they are called "updates". Because info changes over time.
The updates are letting everyone know this is an evolving situation.
So much negativity on this thread from people who obviously own or hold no BAR.



I actually do own a lot and feel like I was cheated. I started getting suspicious after the first youtube videos unti the hack then it was already too late


I am confused by your comment. You  are suspicious of the company and feel cheated in that they have misrepresented themselves. OK I get that but not sure I agree with your sentiment. We are all here to make money on our ICO investments. However, regardkess of your feelings I fail to see how you have been cheated in monetary terms. If your BAR tokens are replaced 1:1 with new TBARs then you have lost nothing in terms of money. And since it is early days and the token is not listed on bigger exchanges then you are imagining unrealized losses.
My advice is just to wait and hodle your TBAR tokens. If the company is even a fraction of a success then your TBAR tokens will be worth much more than what you paid.You can sell your tokens for profit.
If you thought this was going to be a fast swing trade for profit then you were wrong. Most ICOs fail and they few that make it can take a few years before they moon after they get their platforms set up  (eg. Populous, veritaseum, omisego).
And finally, if you are this emotional with your investments you should not be invested in highly speculative ICO start ups.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1005
No need to rush to draw conclusions when investing using latest tools by professional firm is going on to bring the facts in light to put in front of everyone. This kind of incidents can not be excluded totally but we expect extra security measures from companies which are going to provide such services. By tomorrow evening we will be able to see some results hopefully.
full member
Activity: 1176
Merit: 104
Dev team - greedy scammers! Embarrassed Dont trust them and dont buy their new coins

Do you seriously believe that?  If the company was "scammers" they could have NOT issued new coins and they would have let everyone lose money when the hackers dump massive amounts of millions of BAR when it becomes  listed on exchanges.  The actions of the company to issue new TBAR tokens to all coin holders quickly and with good, open communication  shows they are trying to fix their security breach quickly and fairly.
He's not even thinking about what had just happened. I watched the video all over again. They had a serious  issue about the massive hacking accounts and trying to create new Tbar tokens to all coin holders, I hope it will finish soon so that they won't have a hard time with their investors.


Right and it should be a soon as possible. Usually, having  incident like this is a  goodbye to the project because security is very important in cryptocurrency so the Titanium should be thankful that people still trust them.

Good community may have a great future,  good thing that they issued new one to ensure that investors will not lose their money. They better go with hackerone just like electroneum it may take time but for sure it is secured.
full member
Activity: 490
Merit: 100
Dev team - greedy scammers! Embarrassed Dont trust them and dont buy their new coins

Do you seriously believe that?  If the company was "scammers" they could have NOT issued new coins and they would have let everyone lose money when the hackers dump massive amounts of millions of BAR when it becomes  listed on exchanges.  The actions of the company to issue new TBAR tokens to all coin holders quickly and with good, open communication  shows they are trying to fix their security breach quickly and fairly.
He's not even thinking about what had just happened. I watched the video all over again. They had a serious  issue about the massive hacking accounts and trying to create new Tbar tokens to all coin holders, I hope it will finish soon so that they won't have a hard time with their investors.


Right and it should be a soon as possible. Usually, having  incident like this is a  goodbye to the project because security is very important in cryptocurrency so the Titanium should be thankful that people still trust them.
newbie
Activity: 126
Merit: 0
They have sent some TBARs already before freezing the distribution, havent they? Did anyone get some?
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