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Quote from: nullspot on August 13, 2013, 06:20:33 PM

Any news on how this might affect october orders? Assuming the priority of retail over 100TH mine refers only to the August orders...

Since this is about a "two week" thing, my guess would be that it's not likely to affect much of anything after the start of September. I'm amazed that Dave thinks enough of his retail customers to actually do this. I'm thinking I'll be buying only Bitfury stuff from this point on (as long as it's priced competitively, of course).

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Any news on how this might affect october orders? Assuming the priority of retail over 100TH mine refers only to the August orders...

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 06:02:20 PM

Quote from: Cablez on August 13, 2013, 05:48:42 PM

Quote from: goxed on August 13, 2013, 05:42:13 PM

Do the broken boards have ASIC chips soldered on them?

Most likely not. They were just produced wrong before assembly.

They do - we were going full speed ahead with production. Luckily it was caught before too many of these Factory Fakaps were made. The fab is making it right - they are massively expediting PCBs and assembly at their cost, but yes we will be paying for new PCBs. The fab wanted to take time to send us verification boards first, and we said no - run 'em at our risk.

Saddest thing is the boards look great - just like the real thing :/

Maybe we can harvest the ASIC chips. or manually solder wires for SPI comm. How much would these boards sell for? Or if you guys have no use for these boards, can you please send us a few to some of us for free with our order?

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Quote from: Cablez on August 13, 2013, 05:48:42 PM

Quote from: goxed on August 13, 2013, 05:42:13 PM

Do the broken boards have ASIC chips soldered on them?

Most likely not. They were just produced wrong before assembly.

They do - we were going full speed ahead with production. Luckily it was caught before too many of these Factory Fakaps were made. The fab is making it right - they are massively expediting PCBs and assembly at their cost, but yes we will be paying for new PCBs. The fab wanted to take time to send us verification boards first, and we said no - run 'em at our risk.

Saddest thing is the boards look great - just like the real thing :/

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Quote from: goxed on August 13, 2013, 05:42:13 PM

Do the broken boards have ASIC chips soldered on them?

Most likely not. They were just produced wrong before assembly.

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Do the broken boards have ASIC chips soldered on them?

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It was my understanding - from what intron was saying - that the new M-board was slightly smaller. But I'm not involved with their manufacture, so I can only go by what I've heard. I'm sure Dave knows better than I do. I've got cases arriving in the next couple of days and I'm not worried too much one way or the other.

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 03:50:03 PM

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Quote from: superduh on August 13, 2013, 03:37:35 PM

100th->200th would make these retail miners less valuable - sigh
it'd be nice for a discount or price drop based on this - we'll see

Very true. He does say a 'cumulative' roll out over 2 months, so let's hope the bulk is towards the end of the 2 month window.

We will get retail boards out before the 100TH -> 200TH begins to build up. It will happen fast though, once the retail kits are out the door. It was bound to happen anyway, somewhere on the network...

I'm still planning on producing rev 2 M-boards domestically, similar to what Niko is doing, so it shouldn't change your plans with respect to powering the boards.

How will this effect OCTOBER orders? Will we have to wait until 200th is supplied?

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Case designs? Dave doesn't sell cases...

Perhaps I should rephrase the question.

"Do the new/replacement H-boards have different dimensions, which would affect the case design"

Many of us have cases already ordered based on the original board specs, that's all.

The Spottswood open case has (according to Rich) a movable truss that can adjust for any differences . Foofighter and Spottswood both got a copy of the .ipt files for the new M-boards, according to a PM from intron, so they both know about any pending dimension changes.

Dave says the boards are the same size, so we should be fine. But thanks.

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Dave - any update on when chips are going to be available again on the web site? And are there going to be any for October availability?

Also - according to google translate this:

Quote from: BITLISH on August 13, 2013, 04:50:15 PM

Кcтaти, дoля bitfury-чипoв в ceти дoвoльнo мaлeнькaя и пocлeднee yвeличeниe cлoжнocти этo чьи-тo чyжиe мoщнocти.

У Лeшeкa пpoблeмы c плaтaми, a кaк виднo пo ghash.io y Bitfury тoжe пoкa вcё нe cкopo дeлaeтcя (xoтя и быcтpee ocтaльныx).
Aмepикaнцы и eвpoпeйцы пoлyчaт чипы тoлькo co cлeдyющeгo бaтчa.
Mы ceгoдня зaпycтили плaты в cepию, к кoнцy aвгycтa плaниpyeм oтгpyжaть в пopядкe oчepeди.

supposedly says that chips for EU and US will be available only from the next batch - do you have any idea when those would be available to you? (e.g. when is that "next batch" supposed to arrive in your hands?)

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Quote from: mdbssm on August 13, 2013, 04:01:55 PM

Quote from: -Redacted- on August 13, 2013, 03:59:13 PM

Case designs? Dave doesn't sell cases...

Perhaps I should rephrase the question.

"Do the new/replacement H-boards have different dimensions, which would affect the case design"

Many of us have cases already ordered based on the original board specs, that's all.

The Spottswood open case has (according to Rich) a movable truss that can adjust for any differences . Foofighter and Spottswood both got a copy of the .ipt files for the new M-boards (according to some PMs I exchanged with intron) so they both know about any pending dimension changes.

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 03:48:05 PM

Thanks for understanding - we took a big risk fast-tracking these boards but we felt it was worth it. We depended on a Gerber export service provided by the experts we enlisted for PCB production. Somehow, this happened. We are stunned actually - its the little things that get you.

That is a pretty big fack up for a supposedly professional pcb company. And they have the gall to charge you more for new ones? That is a blow, sorry fellows.

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Quote from: Epoch on August 13, 2013, 04:09:08 PM

Any update on the CC merchant account?

For those wishing to purchase hardware with CC now, is the procedure still to place an order as 'bank transfer' and just state in the notes that 'CC payment is requested'? And what happens next?

My guess (and I have about 6 payments outstanding at the moment)... Once he has a new payment processor, he (or Kat) will email instructions....

I think I'll pay for my orders like one a day, rather than all at once - if for no other reason than to attempt to keep his new CC processor (and my credit card company) from freaking out. It didn't work out so well with Square - they halted things right in the middle of me paying multiple orders. I guess things got a little too hot for them...

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Quote from: superduh on August 13, 2013, 03:37:35 PM

100th->200th would make these retail miners less valuable - sigh
it'd be nice for a discount or price drop based on this - we'll see

Fact of Bitcoin life. the Hasrate is going to increase. whether it is here or else where. If that extra 100 wasn't applied here it would be sold to someone else. The only thing that will slow down the hashrate growth is people running out of money to buy more hashers.

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 02:37:50 PM

Guys - Les received the boards today and ... they have a problem. The fab dropped 2 of our layers, producing a 2-layer PCB (no internal interconnects). We identified the problem immediately, got it fixed, and the fab is now expediting new PCBs on a 5-day turn. We are seeking to expedite each additional step this is going to take, but we *will* lose 3 - 5 days here (and 10's of thousands of $$$)

Steps we are taking:
-2-day turn verification rig in production now
-send a team member to China to in-person test this rig
-expedite all stages of PCB production, assembly & delivery

Since we will be right up against our retail delivery timeframe, we are going to have to use the 100TH boards for filling retail product. Due to this, Tytus has announced an increased hashrate supply to our 100TH investors of 200TH total, to be deployed in the next two months cumulatively (not all at once at the end).

We are as upset at the delay/fakap as you are I'm sure. This is one of the side affects of pushing such a fast track project, but we are making it right. Believe me we want this stuff hashing as much as anyone and we are pulling out all the stops to get it done.

Your honesty and transparency are greatly appreciated. I offer my best wishes in your recovery from this setback, and am looking forward to further updates.

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 03:48:05 PM

Thanks for understanding - we took a big risk fast-tracking these boards but we felt it was worth it. We depended on a Gerber export service provided by the experts we enlisted for PCB production. Somehow, this happened. We are stunned actually - its the little things that get you.

We hope to have verified, tested factory boards in about 3 days. This last FedEx "overnight" shipment took 5 days to reach Tytus and that is unacceptable. Poor Niko will have to get on a plane again to do this for us. For you Euro customers, he may ship direct from the factory - we are looking at the logistics of it.

Meanwhile we are not sitting still on that. We are setting up other sources of manufacture and assembly, both to support larger quantity of product, but also to avoid shit like this in the future...

For the record: nothing wrong with M-boards. Nothing wrong with chips. We ate the cost for bad PCBs and some scrapped boards that may get depopped if it ever makes sense.

Thanks a lot for the transparency, strong work ethic and commitment to you customers, Dave. I can totally tell a huge difference with other competitors who have a careless attitude and complete disrespect to customers.

Sorry to hear about eating some losses despite all planning in place. Sometimes those losses are a 'tuition' for our own operational learning for the next round of products on the positive side. Feel free to post any address to donate bitcoins. I wouldn't mind donating a few here and there to the cause once my mining setup starts hashing :-)

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 04:03:09 PM

Quote from: mdbssm on August 13, 2013, 04:01:55 PM

Quote from: -Redacted- on August 13, 2013, 03:59:13 PM

Case designs? Dave doesn't sell cases...

Perhaps I should rephrase the question.

"Do the new/replacement H-boards have different dimensions, which would affect the case design"

Many of us have cases already ordered based on the original board specs, that's all.

Nope - its the exact same board, except has inner traces, and actually works.

Thanks Dave.

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Any update on the CC merchant account?

For those wishing to purchase hardware with CC now, is the procedure still to place an order as 'bank transfer' and just state in the notes that 'CC payment is requested'? And what happens next?

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Quote from: mdbssm on August 13, 2013, 04:01:55 PM

Quote from: -Redacted- on August 13, 2013, 03:59:13 PM

Case designs? Dave doesn't sell cases...

Perhaps I should rephrase the question.

"Do the new/replacement H-boards have different dimensions, which would affect the case design"

Many of us have cases already ordered based on the original board specs, that's all.

Nope - its the exact same board, except has inner traces, and actually works.

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