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Quote from: -Redacted- on August 13, 2013, 02:59:13 PM

Case designs? Dave doesn't sell cases...

Perhaps I should rephrase the question.

"Do the new/replacement H-boards have different dimensions, which would affect the case design"

Many of us have cases already ordered based on the original board specs, that's all.

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Case designs? Dave doesn't sell cases...

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 02:50:03 PM

Quote from: mdbssm on August 13, 2013, 02:47:51 PM

Quote from: superduh on August 13, 2013, 02:37:35 PM

100th->200th would make these retail miners less valuable - sigh
it'd be nice for a discount or price drop based on this - we'll see

Very true. He does say a 'cumulative' roll out over 2 months, so let's hope the bulk is towards the end of the 2 month window.

We will get retail boards out before the 100TH -> 200TH begins to build up. It will happen fast though, once the retail kits are out the door. It was bound to happen anyway, somewhere on the network...

I'm still planning on producing rev 2 M-boards domestically, similar to what Niko is doing, so it shouldn't change your plans with respect to powering the boards.

Great. Case designs don't change either?

Those of us with August kits want to see them up and running as quickly, and seamlessly as possible.

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Quote from: mdbssm on August 13, 2013, 02:47:51 PM

Quote from: superduh on August 13, 2013, 02:37:35 PM

100th->200th would make these retail miners less valuable - sigh
it'd be nice for a discount or price drop based on this - we'll see

Very true. He does say a 'cumulative' roll out over 2 months, so let's hope the bulk is towards the end of the 2 month window.

We will get retail boards out before the 100TH -> 200TH begins to build up. It will happen fast though, once the retail kits are out the door. It was bound to happen anyway, somewhere on the network...

I'm still planning on producing rev 2 M-boards domestically, similar to what Niko is doing, so it shouldn't change your plans with respect to powering the boards.

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Thanks for understanding - we took a big risk fast-tracking these boards but we felt it was worth it. We depended on a Gerber export service provided by the experts we enlisted for PCB production. Somehow, this happened. We are stunned actually - its the little things that get you.

We hope to have verified, tested factory boards in about 3 days. This last FedEx "overnight" shipment took 5 days to reach Tytus and that is unacceptable. Poor Niko will have to get on a plane again to do this for us. For you Euro customers, he may ship direct from the factory - we are looking at the logistics of it.

Meanwhile we are not sitting still on that. We are setting up other sources of manufacture and assembly, both to support larger quantity of product, but also to avoid shit like this in the future...

For the record: nothing wrong with M-boards. Nothing wrong with chips. We ate the cost for bad PCBs and some scrapped boards that may get depopped if it ever makes sense.

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Quote from: superduh on August 13, 2013, 02:37:35 PM

100th->200th would make these retail miners less valuable - sigh
it'd be nice for a discount or price drop based on this - we'll see

Very true. He does say a 'cumulative' roll out over 2 months, so let's hope the bulk is towards the end of the 2 month window.

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100th->200th would make these retail miners less valuable - sigh
it'd be nice for a discount or price drop based on this - we'll see

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 01:37:50 PM

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Good communication in contrast to other ASIC shops ...

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Quote from: cscape on August 13, 2013, 02:19:33 PM

Quote from: -Redacted- on August 13, 2013, 02:06:48 PM

I woudn't think that M-boards would be nearly as big an issue.

Correct. The m-boards are 2 layers by design.

Hey c-scape - nice to hear from you! I don't have a shematic, but I guessed it wasn't a 4 layer. Thought any more about marketing that sexy standalone ethernet hasher you posted photos of ?

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Quote from: -Redacted- on August 13, 2013, 02:06:48 PM

I woudn't think that M-boards would be nearly as big an issue.

Correct. The m-boards are 2 layers by design.

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 01:37:50 PM

Guys - Les received the boards today and ... they have a problem. The fab dropped 2 of our layers, producing a 2-layer PCB (no internal interconnects). We identified the problem immediately, got it fixed, and the fab is now expediting new PCBs on a 5-day turn. We are seeking to expedite each additional step this is going to take, but we *will* lose 3 - 5 days here (and 10's of thousands of $$$)

Steps we are taking:
-2-day turn verification rig in production now
-send a team member to China to in-person test this rig
-expedite all stages of PCB production, assembly & delivery

Since we will be right up against our retail delivery timeframe, we are going to have to use the 100TH boards for filling retail product. Due to this, Tytus has announced an increased hashrate supply to our 100TH investors of 200TH total, to be deployed in the next two months cumulatively (not all at once at the end).

We are as upset at the delay/fakap as you are I'm sure. This is one of the side affects of pushing such a fast track project, but we are making it right. Believe me we want this stuff hashing as much as anyone and we are pulling out all the stops to get it done.

Thanks Dave. Details and honesty in an ASIC supplier is refreshing. I think we all realize the myriad of things that can go wrong on cutting edge stuff. All we ask is that we know what's up and what it means for us. Thanks again.

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Hearing about small delays up-front (rather than weeks later) is a nice breath of fresh air. Keep up with the good communication.

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Thanks for the info, Dave. The honesty is very refreshing. I assume the boards being mentioned are H-boards, I woudn't think that M-boards would be nearly as big an issue ( and didn't I read they are being produced in (?) Finland (?) )

I also guess these are well short of qualifying as being "Dave's semi-working" boards. Two missing layers? Ouch... They screwed up bigtime. Hope they make it right for you...

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 01:37:50 PM

Guys - Les received the boards today and ... they have a problem. The fab dropped 2 of our layers, producing a 2-layer PCB (no internal interconnects). We identified the problem immediately, got it fixed, and the fab is now expediting new PCBs on a 5-day turn. We are seeking to expedite each additional step this is going to take, but we *will* lose 3 - 5 days here (and 10's of thousands of $$$)

Steps we are taking:
-2-day turn verification rig in production now
-send a team member to China to in-person test this rig
-expedite all stages of PCB production, assembly & delivery

Since we will be right up against our retail delivery timeframe, we are going to have to use the 100TH boards for filling retail product. Due to this, Tytus has announced an increased hashrate supply to our 100TH investors of 200TH total, to be deployed in the next two months cumulatively (not all at once at the end).

We are as upset at the delay/fakap as you are I'm sure. This is one of the side affects of pushing such a fast track project, but we are making it right. Believe me we want this stuff hashing as much as anyone and we are pulling out all the stops to get it done.

Thanks for the update Dave and going beyond to keep the delivery schedule of the retail units. Appreciate it.!

With the speed at which the difficulty is increasing, any time lost in delivery directly affects the ROI of the product.
Thanks,

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Quote from: buzzdave on August 13, 2013, 01:37:50 PM

Guys - Les received the boards today and ... they have a problem. The fab dropped 2 of our layers, producing a 2-layer PCB (no internal interconnects). We identified the problem immediately, got it fixed, and the fab is now expediting new PCBs on a 5-day turn. We are seeking to expedite each additional step this is going to take, but we *will* lose 3 - 5 days here (and 10's of thousands of $$$)

Steps we are taking:
-2-day turn verification rig in production now
-send a team member to China to in-person test this rig
-expedite all stages of PCB production, assembly & delivery

Since we will be right up against our retail delivery timeframe, we are going to have to use the 100TH boards for filling retail product. Due to this, Tytus has announced an increased hashrate supply to our 100TH investors of 200TH total, to be deployed in the next two months cumulatively (not all at once at the end).

We are as upset at the delay/fakap as you are I'm sure. This is one of the side affects of pushing such a fast track project, but we are making it right. Believe me we want this stuff hashing as much as anyone and we are pulling out all the stops to get it done.

Is this M-boards, H-boards or both?

If 100TH boards are going to be supplied to August retail customers, does this change anything else besides power connections?

Thanks for the update and efforts to stick to the delivery schedule.

buzzdave

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Guys - Les received the boards today and ... they have a problem. The fab dropped 2 of our layers, producing a 2-layer PCB (no internal interconnects). We identified the problem immediately, got it fixed, and the fab is now expediting new PCBs on a 5-day turn. We are seeking to expedite each additional step this is going to take, but we *will* lose 3 - 5 days here (and 10's of thousands of $$$)

Steps we are taking:
-2-day turn verification rig in production now
-send a team member to China to in-person test this rig
-expedite all stages of PCB production, assembly & delivery

Since we will be right up against our retail delivery timeframe, we are going to have to use the 100TH boards for filling retail product. Due to this, Tytus has announced an increased hashrate supply to our 100TH investors of 200TH total, to be deployed in the next two months cumulatively (not all at once at the end).

We are as upset at the delay/fakap as you are I'm sure. This is one of the side affects of pushing such a fast track project, but we are making it right. Believe me we want this stuff hashing as much as anyone and we are pulling out all the stops to get it done.

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Flyboy, you need to understand something: there are no guarantees.

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With the Number of October Kits starting off at 400ish orders if I were to order once the orders available get down into the 50's or less, will they still be guaranteed October Orders?

Thanks.

-Flyboy

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Quote from: kendog77 on August 13, 2013, 09:46:06 AM

Quote from: jspielberg on August 13, 2013, 09:13:59 AM

Quote from: kendog77 on August 13, 2013, 08:02:29 AM

Given the current rate of difficulty increases, over 50$ per GH is absurdly overpriced for a 25 GH miner with an October delivery date. Folks would be much better off simply holding their BTC or spending $1300 to buy bitcoin directly.

Currently these miners are being deployed for 100TH mine project and are the most "trusted" pre-deliverable available.

The 400 GH October delivery has a decent chance to make ROI at $20/GH, but I still think the 25 GH October delivery is absurdly overpriced at over $50/GH.

By October, I suspect you'll be able to get a Blade for under $50/GH given the recent ASICMiner price drops.

As stated above, it's not just the hashing board for 1300. I'm buying a starter kit + 3 hashing boards. Even including the Pi and M-boards "extra" cost, it still comes out to $28/GH/s. And I can add 25GH/s whenever I want (or can afford) to for only $500. With KMC, you'll have to buy an entire 100GH/s module to increase hashrate.

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Quote from: kendog77 on August 13, 2013, 09:46:06 AM

The 400 GH October delivery has a decent chance to make ROI at $20/GH, but I still think the 25 GH October delivery is absurdly overpriced at over $50/GH.

By October, I suspect you'll be able to get a Blade for under $50/GH given the recent ASICMiner price drops.

The $1300 is not just for the 25gh/s hashing board. It is also for a master board and a raspberry pi. You can add 15 additional hashing boards (16 in total including your first one that came with the starter kit) to 1 master board for $500 per hashing board (each 25gh/s).

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