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August 12, 2013, 12:33:57 AM
Abdi's Linkedin, name and the registered company address is the only things in the list that are accurate. It's quite a generic name in the UK of those with the same ethnic backgrounds so if you could link a john to all the possible usernames of johns within the same region the same issue would pop up.

So is that you in the picture, and were you ever truly a "director of procrastination"??


Can confirm that is one of Abdi's old Facebook pictures but not sure where "director of procrastination" came from. Even if it was stated somewhere on his facebook or twitter page it's probably just a joke directed at his personal social network rather than on a official profile like Linkedin.

Okay so we went from it is all a lie, to the linked in and address are correct, to also confirming the picture, and then the clothing company.  I am not going through the effort of posting exactly how I got all of this information but it did not come from simply searching for a name.  It primarily came from all of the records of previous companies, companies registered under the same address, e-mails associated with those companies posted under usernames which were then matched to other usernames with the same location, etc.   All of the usernames, e-mail addresses, companies, etc. all have fairly reliable links back to the Abdi associated with xCrowd.  Google any of the usernames, e-mail addresses, etc. and take a look at the profiles, posts etc. and if it isn't obvious to you how they are linked to Abdi then ask and I will provide a specific proof.
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August 11, 2013, 11:13:29 PM
It does seem like the responses are coming from people with different levels of proficiency with English.
To me it seems like the responses are all coming from someone with a slightly deficient proficiency in English grammar, actually. I don't see a radical difference in grammatical ability between the announcements and all of these posts, all slightly off at times. I don't see a shining example of style, or other styles of writing at all. I think it's just one guy posting.
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August 11, 2013, 09:02:49 PM


Dude I may well do in future. Convince me.

The burden of proof is on you. we certainly haven't got time to deal with this. Simply wait around until the launch and then see whether we would be a safer bet than companies that are requesting direct payments. Not a single ASIC vendor has delivered on time yet for all their order; the reason why they get away with it is because they've already been paid. (other than ASICMINER)

I just don't understand why they need money held in limbo in escrow, when they can afford release the funds and therefore to get paid when they have the products ready made and in hand?

The only reason would be to prevent people from purchasing elsewhere or to pull some form of scam.

If you have the funds to make the products, there's no need for pre-orders.

Maybe I missed it but what if a customer wants a refund before the product ships?  Is escrow released back to the client?

No, and there's zero purpose in not using card payments now we have proven it can be done.

It ads multiple layers of security for all concerned.

There's also zero purpose in any payment as Abdi says they have funding through to production sorted anyway, so what's the point in paying for anything now?

There you go again adding random assumptions.  

There WILL be a chance to request refunds for a whole month after our open events as mentioned before.

Night. If there are any further questions please do contact us by email as this thread won't be attended to as much bwfire Friday.



But the point is, by your own admission you don't need the money. You just want to hold onto people's money and prevent them from purchasing in the time it takes you to create something, good or bad, however long that may take as a company without any IC ASIC experience.

You want everyone to take a risk, when there is no need for them to.
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August 11, 2013, 08:59:58 PM


Dude I may well do in future. Convince me.

The burden of proof is on you. we certainly haven't got time to deal with this. Simply wait around until the launch and then see whether we would be a safer bet than companies that are requesting direct payments. Not a single ASIC vendor has delivered on time yet for all their order; the reason why they get away with it is because they've already been paid. (other than ASICMINER)

I just don't understand why they need money held in limbo in escrow, when they can afford release the funds and therefore to get paid when they have the products ready made and in hand?

The only reason would be to prevent people from purchasing elsewhere or to pull some form of scam.

If you have the funds to make the products, there's no need for pre-orders.

Maybe I missed it but what if a customer wants a refund before the product ships?  Is escrow released back to the client?

No, and there's zero purpose in not using card payments now we have proven it can be done.

It ads multiple layers of security for all concerned.

There's also zero purpose in any payment as Abdi says they have funding through to production sorted anyway, so what's the point in paying for anything now?

There you go again adding random assumptions.  

There WILL be a chance to request refunds for a whole month after our open events as mentioned before.

Night.

If there are any further questions please do contact us by email as this thread won't be attended to as much before Friday.

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August 11, 2013, 08:59:22 PM


Dude I may well do in future. Convince me.

The burden of proof is on you. we certainly haven't got time to deal with this. Simply wait around until the launch and then see whether we would be a safer bet than companies that are requesting direct payments. Not a single ASIC vendor has delivered on time yet for all their order; the reason why they get away with it is because they've already been paid. (other than ASICMINER)

I just don't understand why they need money held in limbo in escrow, when they can afford release the funds and therefore to get paid when they have the products ready made and in hand?

The only reason would be to prevent people from purchasing elsewhere or to pull some form of scam.

If you have the funds to make the products, there's no need for pre-orders.

Maybe I missed it but what if a customer wants a refund before the product ships?  Is escrow released back to the client?

No.

Then that is why they want escrow IMO.  It's their hedge against the hash rate exploding IMO.

Exactly, this is like a real life version of Dragon's Den where you have companies pitching with pretty pictures and promises and you strip away the gloss. With this particular deal there is no sense in paying ahead of time if they can afford to produce at no risk to us anyway. It's a pointless risk on our part currently so they can lock your funds during a period someone else may offer better mining equipment to purchase earlier.

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August 11, 2013, 08:55:27 PM


Dude I may well do in future. Convince me.

The burden of proof is on you. we certainly haven't got time to deal with this. Simply wait around until the launch and then see whether we would be a safer bet than companies that are requesting direct payments. Not a single ASIC vendor has delivered on time yet for all their order; the reason why they get away with it is because they've already been paid. (other than ASICMINER)

I just don't understand why they need money held in limbo in escrow, when they can afford release the funds and therefore to get paid when they have the products ready made and in hand?

The only reason would be to prevent people from purchasing elsewhere or to pull some form of scam.

If you have the funds to make the products, there's no need for pre-orders.

Maybe I missed it but what if a customer wants a refund before the product ships?  Is escrow released back to the client?

No.

Then that is why they want escrow IMO.  It's their hedge against the hash rate exploding IMO.
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August 11, 2013, 08:51:38 PM


Dude I may well do in future. Convince me.

The burden of proof is on you. we certainly haven't got time to deal with this. Simply wait around until the launch and then see whether we would be a safer bet than companies that are requesting direct payments. Not a single ASIC vendor has delivered on time yet for all their order; the reason why they get away with it is because they've already been paid. (other than ASICMINER)

I just don't understand why they need money held in limbo in escrow, when they can afford release the funds and therefore to get paid when they have the products ready made and in hand?

The only reason would be to prevent people from purchasing elsewhere or to pull some form of scam.

If you have the funds to make the products, there's no need for pre-orders.

Maybe I missed it but what if a customer wants a refund before the product ships?  Is escrow released back to the client?

No, and there's zero purpose in not using card payments now we have proven it can be done.

It ads multiple layers of security for all concerned.

There's also zero purpose in any payment as Abdi says they have funding through to production sorted anyway, so what's the point in paying for anything now?
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August 11, 2013, 08:47:07 PM


Dude I may well do in future. Convince me.

The burden of proof is on you. we certainly haven't got time to deal with this. Simply wait around until the launch and then see whether we would be a safer bet than companies that are requesting direct payments. Not a single ASIC vendor has delivered on time yet for all their order; the reason why they get away with it is because they've already been paid. (other than ASICMINER)

I just don't understand why they need money held in limbo in escrow, when they can afford release the funds and therefore to get paid when they have the products ready made and in hand?

The only reason would be to prevent people from purchasing elsewhere or to pull some form of scam.

If you have the funds to make the products, there's no need for pre-orders.

Maybe I missed it but what if a customer wants a refund before the product ships?  Is escrow released back to the client?
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August 11, 2013, 08:43:04 PM

Dude I may well do in future. Convince me.

The burden of proof is on you. we certainly haven't got time to deal with this. Simply wait around until the launch and then see whether we would be a safer bet than companies that are requesting direct payments. Not a single ASIC vendor has delivered on time yet for all their order; the reason why they get away with it is because they've already been paid. (other than ASICMINER)

I just don't understand why they need money held in limbo in escrow, when they can afford to get paid when they have the products ready made and in hand?

The only reason would be to prevent people from purchasing elsewhere or to pull some form of scam.

If you have the funds to make the products, there's no need for pre-orders.

If there's a need for pre-orders you need to accept credit card for payment protection. Also by verifying x-crowd through issuing banks and payment processors you will have undertaken significant security profiling and recourse in case of anything dodgy. You by your own admission have time to set this up as you don't need access to our funds until delivery which is what you've agreed to anyway.

I see no need for pre-ordering based on your claims, and I see every reason for card payments and consumer protection Abdi.
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August 11, 2013, 08:34:41 PM
ASICMiner delivers on time. They are the most professional ASIC vendor at the moment.

IF xCrowd are clueless about this fact, what clue they even have about produce and sell ASIC Bitcoin miners?

 Huh
legendary
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August 11, 2013, 08:21:50 PM
It does seem like the responses are coming from people with different levels of proficiency with English.
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August 11, 2013, 08:18:50 PM

Dude I may well do in future. Convince me.

The burden of proof is on you. we certainly haven't got time to deal with this. Simply wait around until the launch and then see whether we would be a safer bet than companies that are requesting direct payments. Not a single ASIC vendor has delivered on time yet for all their order; the reason why they get away with it is because they've already been paid. (other than ASICMINER)

This is account was specifically created to interact with the community and prospective customers which the whole team has access to. Any issues with that then don't hesitate to contact the moderators and we would be able to change the way we use this account if we do breach any terms set by the forum.
You're saying that more than one person has been writing responses for the Xcrowd account to represent your team? Or are you just saying that more than 1 has access but that it's been just one person this whole time so far?

Customer representatives, core team members and main investors.


Seems like were falling into the trap of trying to have a civil conversation with trolls. Thank you for your questions but were calling it a day.
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August 11, 2013, 08:11:29 PM
This is account was specifically created to interact with the community and prospective customers which the whole team has access to. Any issues with that then don't hesitate to contact the moderators and we would be able to change the way we use this account if we do breach any terms set by the forum.
You're saying that more than one person has been writing responses for the Xcrowd account to represent your team? Or are you just saying that more than 1 has access but that it's been just one person this whole time so far?
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August 11, 2013, 08:10:01 PM
Will he also confirm that Abdi is the person sockpuppeting the Xcrowd account on here, because he's using language as if that were not so, as if Abdi were not the writer behind the Xcrowd account but another person. Is this accurate?

This is account was specifically created to interact with the community and prospective customers which the whole team has access to. Any issues with that then don't hesitate to contact the moderators and we would be able to change the way we use this account if we do breach any terms set by the forum.
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August 11, 2013, 08:05:53 PM


So if that's you in the picture, and that picture came from your Facebook page then according to the link that guy gave with your background info you still are 'Former Director of Procrastination' at you clothing store, Sophia Jenna.

https://www.facebook.com/Amahamud?ref=fs

You do realise that it's a facebook profile and that it hasn't been updated for months?

I know, but c'mon it's not really what you want to come across just as you are about to be asked to trust you with millions of dollars and deliver on time.

Might not be the best choice of words, but you are really nitpicking here. Regardless of that I don't think you're a shill for anyone, but simply bored. P.s. You won't be trusting no one from xCrowd with any funds and the escrows won't be locked up until the delivery so please don't assume things out of thin air.
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August 11, 2013, 08:05:26 PM
So he is confirming that Abdi Mahamud pictured there is indeed connected with the company.

Will he also confirm that Abdi is the person sockpuppeting the Xcrowd account on here, because he's using language as if that were not so, as if Abdi were not the writer behind the Xcrowd account but another person. Is this accurate?

What is Abdi's involvement with the company? What are his duties in the company? Why shouldn't we be suspicious of a company that would hire someone with "director of procrastination" in their public profile?
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August 11, 2013, 07:56:18 PM


So if that's you in the picture, and that picture came from your Facebook page then according to the link that guy gave with your background info you still are 'Former Director of Procrastination' at you clothing store, Sophia Jenna.

https://www.facebook.com/Amahamud?ref=fs

You do realise that it's a facebook profile and that it hasn't been updated for months?

I know, but c'mon it's not really what you want to come across just as you are about to be asked to trust you with millions of dollars and deliver on time.
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August 11, 2013, 07:51:00 PM


So if that's you in the picture, and that picture came from your Facebook page then according to the link that guy gave with your background info you still are 'Former Director of Procrastination' at you clothing store, Sophia Jenna.

https://www.facebook.com/Amahamud?ref=fs

You do realise that it's a facebook profile and that it hasn't been updated for months?
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August 11, 2013, 07:46:50 PM


So if that's you in the picture, and that picture came from your Facebook page then according to the link that guy gave with your background info you still are 'Former Director of Procrastination' at you clothing store, Sophia Jenna.

https://www.facebook.com/Amahamud?ref=fs
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August 11, 2013, 07:41:38 PM
You could either write us off simply because we haven't posted any details yet or simply continue to read the updates from us to make a sound judgement once you do have the details. You can try as much as you like but you won't see neither a xCrowd representative or our distributors take direct payments until we start shipping.
I think you misread my post. I was wondering why the mention of escrow was removed, not why escrow was there. Of course it's a good thing that there is escrow.

Sorry, the second part of the post was directed at eve. "Reservation" simply means getting a ticket in the waiting list incase we have to delay processing orders next week (still all escrow).
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