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Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 07:22:52 PM

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It's hard to see why ZCL is more profitable than ZEC. What are people basing that on?

I can see why people want it to be but I don't see how it is right now.

Have you calculated it? It depends on some factors, like difficulty, total hashrate, pools (to some degree). And it constantly changes. So it's always some kind of gamble involved, imho, depending on where the price moves and how fast you can get your mined coins to the markets.

I'm just doing both, now started with ZCL for a few hours and doesn't seem like a lot of coin bits are being accumulated. ZEC is 50 times the price, at least, don't remember exactly.

Ya, I'm not feeling it yet with this coin lol

EDIT: based on 6 hours of mining vs earnings... its dead even with where ZEC is right now... so pick your poison lol toss up. I have to ask myself, so which coin do I think holds the best chance of going up?

ZCL is profitable, or at least WAS. Now it's on whattomine and net hashrate jump high. Besides it was harder to sell today compare to yesterday. Therefor I now split my hashrate between ZCL and ZEC.

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Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 07:22:52 PM

Quote from: paramind22 on November 10, 2016, 06:59:25 PM

Quote from: Macht on November 10, 2016, 06:41:39 PM

Quote from: paramind22 on November 10, 2016, 06:18:54 PM

It's hard to see why ZCL is more profitable than ZEC. What are people basing that on?

I can see why people want it to be but I don't see how it is right now.

Have you calculated it? It depends on some factors, like difficulty, total hashrate, pools (to some degree). And it constantly changes. So it's always some kind of gamble involved, imho, depending on where the price moves and how fast you can get your mined coins to the markets.

I'm just doing both, now started with ZCL for a few hours and doesn't seem like a lot of coin bits are being accumulated. ZEC is 50 times the price, at least, don't remember exactly.

Ya, I'm not feeling it yet with this coin lol

EDIT: based on 6 hours of mining vs earnings... its dead even with where ZEC is right now... so pick your poison lol toss up. I have to ask myself, so which coin do I think holds the best chance of going up?

I just can't understand that, because I have about .007 ZCL CPU mining for about three hours and coinmarketcap says its $5.65. How can they be even?

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Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 07:22:52 PM

Quote from: paramind22 on November 10, 2016, 06:59:25 PM

Quote from: Macht on November 10, 2016, 06:41:39 PM

Quote from: paramind22 on November 10, 2016, 06:18:54 PM

It's hard to see why ZCL is more profitable than ZEC. What are people basing that on?

I can see why people want it to be but I don't see how it is right now.

Have you calculated it? It depends on some factors, like difficulty, total hashrate, pools (to some degree). And it constantly changes. So it's always some kind of gamble involved, imho, depending on where the price moves and how fast you can get your mined coins to the markets.

I'm just doing both, now started with ZCL for a few hours and doesn't seem like a lot of coin bits are being accumulated. ZEC is 50 times the price, at least, don't remember exactly.

Ya, I'm not feeling it yet with this coin lol

EDIT: based on 6 hours of mining vs earnings... its dead even with where ZEC is right now... so pick your poison lol toss up. I have to ask myself, so which coin do I think holds the best chance of going up?

ask ocminer to consult his crystal ball. that thing's never wrong! Grin

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Quote from: paramind22 on November 10, 2016, 06:59:25 PM

Quote from: Macht on November 10, 2016, 06:41:39 PM

Quote from: paramind22 on November 10, 2016, 06:18:54 PM

It's hard to see why ZCL is more profitable than ZEC. What are people basing that on?

I can see why people want it to be but I don't see how it is right now.

Have you calculated it? It depends on some factors, like difficulty, total hashrate, pools (to some degree). And it constantly changes. So it's always some kind of gamble involved, imho, depending on where the price moves and how fast you can get your mined coins to the markets.

I'm just doing both, now started with ZCL for a few hours and doesn't seem like a lot of coin bits are being accumulated. ZEC is 50 times the price, at least, don't remember exactly.

Ya, I'm not feeling it yet with this coin lol

EDIT: based on 6 hours of mining vs earnings... its dead even with where ZEC is right now... so pick your poison lol toss up. I have to ask myself, so which coin do I think holds the best chance of going up?

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Quote from: Macht on November 10, 2016, 06:41:39 PM

Quote from: paramind22 on November 10, 2016, 06:18:54 PM

It's hard to see why ZCL is more profitable than ZEC. What are people basing that on?

I can see why people want it to be but I don't see how it is right now.

Have you calculated it? It depends on some factors, like difficulty, total hashrate, pools (to some degree). And it constantly changes. So it's always some kind of gamble involved, imho, depending on where the price moves and how fast you can get your mined coins to the markets.

I'm just doing both, now started with ZCL for a few hours and doesn't seem like a lot of coin bits are being accumulated. ZEC is 50 times the price, at least, don't remember exactly.

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Quote from: paramind22 on November 10, 2016, 06:18:54 PM

It's hard to see why ZCL is more profitable than ZEC. What are people basing that on?

I can see why people want it to be but I don't see how it is right now.

Have you calculated it? It depends on some factors, like difficulty, total hashrate, pools (to some degree). And it constantly changes. So it's always some kind of gamble involved, imho, depending on where the price moves and how fast you can get your mined coins to the markets.

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Well I just sold my first ZCL 0.25534063 on c-cex and it turned into BTC in my account wallet Huh

imagine that lol

EDIT: But with that said, I am not sure how much longer I will continue to mine it. I think the better mining money may be with ZEC....

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Quote from: shimlbit on November 10, 2016, 06:18:25 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 06:11:46 PM

Quote from: shimlbit on November 10, 2016, 06:09:45 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 06:06:37 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 06:02:07 PM

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By now its crystal clear , he is a troll with a agenda, getting on people nerves.

That or he invested heavily in ZEC at a much higher price and is in panic mode that he will never see his money come back on it? and is pissed off at seeing a fork so soon on this big magic coin called "zcash" lol its to be expected these days, forks and clones.

No... with the trading pumps and dumps on ZEC you can make nice money a lot of money... not in a coin that doesn't have any volume as ZCL... nobody is buying on C-CEX and if there are buys then I already notice that they were fake. Checking market all the time.

yep somebody fakebought my coins..sure...now------>ignore

I know enough about market, I have been here for some many years... I can easily identify the fake buys... suddenly a order comes up and the same amount is taken out... with noobs you can talk like this, but not with me.

you know much about yobit markets...u scammed ppl with icos not more...u were buying worthless coins and selling them by hyping it like hell to noobs on yobit...ur just fraud not more

Prove... you are pushing so hard, ZCL your coin?

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It's hard to see why ZCL is more profitable than ZEC. What are people basing that on?

I can see why people want it to be but I don't see how it is right now.

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Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 06:11:46 PM

Quote from: shimlbit on November 10, 2016, 06:09:45 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 06:06:37 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 06:02:07 PM

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By now its crystal clear , he is a troll with a agenda, getting on people nerves.

That or he invested heavily in ZEC at a much higher price and is in panic mode that he will never see his money come back on it? and is pissed off at seeing a fork so soon on this big magic coin called "zcash" lol its to be expected these days, forks and clones.

No... with the trading pumps and dumps on ZEC you can make nice money a lot of money... not in a coin that doesn't have any volume as ZCL... nobody is buying on C-CEX and if there are buys then I already notice that they were fake. Checking market all the time.

yep somebody fakebought my coins..sure...now------>ignore

I know enough about market, I have been here for some many years... I can easily identify the fake buys... suddenly a order comes up and the same amount is taken out... with noobs you can talk like this, but not with me.

you know much about yobit markets...u scammed ppl with icos not more...u were buying worthless coins and selling them by hyping it like hell to noobs on yobit...ur just fraud not more

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Quote from: shimlbit on November 10, 2016, 06:09:45 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 06:06:37 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 06:02:07 PM

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By now its crystal clear , he is a troll with a agenda, getting on people nerves.

That or he invested heavily in ZEC at a much higher price and is in panic mode that he will never see his money come back on it? and is pissed off at seeing a fork so soon on this big magic coin called "zcash" lol its to be expected these days, forks and clones.

No... with the trading pumps and dumps on ZEC you can make nice money a lot of money... not in a coin that doesn't have any volume as ZCL... nobody is buying on C-CEX and if there are buys then I already notice that they were fake. Checking market all the time.

yep somebody fakebought my coins..sure...now------>ignore

I know enough about market, I have been here for some many years... I can easily identify the fake buys... suddenly a order comes up and the same amount is taken out... with noobs you can talk like this, but not with me.

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Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 06:06:37 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 06:02:07 PM

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By now its crystal clear , he is a troll with a agenda, getting on people nerves.

That or he invested heavily in ZEC at a much higher price and is in panic mode that he will never see his money come back on it? and is pissed off at seeing a fork so soon on this big magic coin called "zcash" lol its to be expected these days, forks and clones.

No... with the trading pumps and dumps on ZEC you can make nice money a lot of money... not in a coin that doesn't have any volume as ZCL... nobody is buying on C-CEX and if there are buys then I already notice that they were fake. Checking market all the time.

yep somebody fakebought my coins..sure...its just a normal distribution and i bought and sold and bought and sold....sorry fakebought and fakesold...
now------>ignore

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Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 06:02:07 PM

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By now its crystal clear , he is a troll with a agenda, getting on people nerves.

That or he invested heavily in ZEC at a much higher price and is in panic mode that he will never see his money come back on it? and is pissed off at seeing a fork so soon on this big magic coin called "zcash" lol its to be expected these days, forks and clones.

No... with the trading pumps and dumps on ZEC you can make nice money a lot of money... not in a coin that doesn't have any volume as ZCL... nobody is buying on C-CEX and if there are buys then I already notice that they were fake. Checking market all the time.

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Quote

By now its crystal clear , he is a troll with a agenda, getting on people nerves.

That or he invested heavily in ZEC at a much higher price and is in panic mode that he will never see his money come back on it? and is pissed off at seeing a fork so soon on this big magic coin called "zcash" lol its to be expected these days, forks and clones.

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Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 05:38:06 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 05:17:11 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 05:09:52 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: str4wm4n on November 10, 2016, 02:36:44 PM

http://www.whattomine.com/

Zclassic is listed as the most profitable coin on what to mine

That is a bad sign... miners will dump it more hard as they run big profits Wink

Well is that not the name of the game? to sell at big profit as miners? I mean, what do I want these coins for besides to sell lol

And Miners usually are not bag holders, you got to sell it while ya can, if the price is reasonable. Grin

Speculators, that's another story.

Miners are per definition the persons that destroy 99.99% of the coins. They mine it for free and dump it, as it is all profit. Don't expect to see ZCL moving higher, it will only go lower and lower, and certainly with this huge inflation. It is generating 4 times more blocks then the real ZEC and this is just a clone shit, there is even no roadmap, of course not as it is a clone instamine shit Wink

Lets talk in 2 weeks... Current price : 0.00720990 BTC, I give a estimate of 0.0050 BTC in 2 weeks, and 0.0030 BTC in 4 weeks. (with sometimes a little pump and dump of course Wink

)

Ah, first off 99.9 % of all coins ONLY come into existence BY miners. The block chain and its transactions are confirmed and secured BY miners.

Mine it for free? Um, well lets see, last look I had about $10,000 tied up in miner rigs and gear. My last electric bill for mining was over $300.00 So I beg to differ on we mine it for free and its all profit Huh

And as with most miners we are going to go where the coin is that will produce the BIGGEST profit in the shortest amount of time. If that last a week, 2 weeks or 2 months than so be it. Wink

Ok, I'm not sure how you or others deal in crypto, ? but thats a miners take from this ol boy Grin

As far as new people to crypto, if mining, then follow the above rule of making money. If an new investor, put your money in something more stable, like Bitcoin of course or even Ethereum still. And if your not willing to take some risk, then stay away from crypto all together and maybe just invest in the stock market with a slow grow, low risk type portfolio Wink

The cost of mining in China, Russia, India is almost free. Also with the low watt rate of mining coins your solar panels cover all the costs. So yes, it is basically mining for free.

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Quote from: gsxrboy on November 10, 2016, 05:54:15 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 05:49:41 PM

Quote from: shimlbit on November 10, 2016, 05:19:33 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 05:17:11 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 05:09:52 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: str4wm4n on November 10, 2016, 02:36:44 PM

http://www.whattomine.com/

Zclassic is listed as the most profitable coin on what to mine

That is a bad sign... miners will dump it more hard as they run big profits Wink

Well is that not the name of the game? to sell at big profit as miners? I mean, what do I want these coins for besides to sell lol

And Miners usually are not bag holders, you got to sell it while ya can, if the price is reasonable. Grin

Speculators, that's another story.

Miners are per definition the persons that destroy 99.99% of the coins. They mine it for free and dump it, as it is all profit. Don't expect to see ZCL moving higher, it will only go lower and lower, and certainly with this huge inflation. It is generating 4 times more blocks then the real ZEC and this is just a clone shit, there is even no roadmap, of course not as it is a clone instamine shit Wink

Lets talk in 2 weeks... Current price : 0.00720990 BTC, I give a estimate of 0.0050 BTC in 2 weeks, and 0.0030 BTC in 4 weeks. (with sometimes a little pump and dump of course Wink

)

just ignore him...hes always talking bullshit...hes a little kid whos trolling the yobit trollbox not less not more...so just ignore his fud..he did it everytime to get in cheap....and u guys panicin

Honestly I have seen so much BS over the years in these threads... I just keep on doing my thing mining regardless of what's being said lol I only responded because I'm bored right now.

And yes,,,, I am baffled by how a "legendary" could make such a ridiculous statement as "mine for free" I agree, not sure who pays his power bill if he even mines coins?

By now its crystal clear , he is a troll with a agenda, getting on people nerves.

best thing is to hit the ignore button on BCT and u have no more problem with this troll...will do it now

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Honestly, I am not sure there is any more money to be made mining ZCL vs ZEC right now. But thought I would give it 24 hours. Either way, both seem to be the best coin to be mining for profit right now Wink

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Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 05:49:41 PM

Quote from: shimlbit on November 10, 2016, 05:19:33 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 05:17:11 PM

Quote from: MinermanNC on November 10, 2016, 05:09:52 PM

Quote from: placebo on November 10, 2016, 02:46:14 PM

Quote from: str4wm4n on November 10, 2016, 02:36:44 PM

http://www.whattomine.com/

Zclassic is listed as the most profitable coin on what to mine

That is a bad sign... miners will dump it more hard as they run big profits Wink

Well is that not the name of the game? to sell at big profit as miners? I mean, what do I want these coins for besides to sell lol

And Miners usually are not bag holders, you got to sell it while ya can, if the price is reasonable. Grin

Speculators, that's another story.

Miners are per definition the persons that destroy 99.99% of the coins. They mine it for free and dump it, as it is all profit. Don't expect to see ZCL moving higher, it will only go lower and lower, and certainly with this huge inflation. It is generating 4 times more blocks then the real ZEC and this is just a clone shit, there is even no roadmap, of course not as it is a clone instamine shit Wink

Lets talk in 2 weeks... Current price : 0.00720990 BTC, I give a estimate of 0.0050 BTC in 2 weeks, and 0.0030 BTC in 4 weeks. (with sometimes a little pump and dump of course Wink

)

just ignore him...hes always talking bullshit...hes a little kid whos trolling the yobit trollbox not less not more...so just ignore his fud..he did it everytime to get in cheap....and u guys panicin

Honestly I have seen so much BS over the years in these threads... I just keep on doing my thing mining regardless of what's being said lol I only responded because I'm bored right now.

And yes,,,, I am baffled by how a "legendary" could make such a ridiculous statement as "mine for free" I agree, not sure who pays his power bill if he even mines coins?

By now its crystal clear , he is a troll with a agenda, getting on people nerves, he is having a laugh with us.

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