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Topic: [ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing ZKP privacy without trusted setup - page 163. (Read 663229 times)

sr. member
Activity: 1216
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XZC is going down to like 0.0019 at least, sell now and re-buy later

Any reason for this dump?

Thanks!

Stop crying please!

You trust = keep

You do not trust and are impatient = sell

The team is doing innovation every day. This is not a code copy like a lot of currency crypto. Zcoin works with researchers and implements something unique and the best technology of anonymity.

Instead of complaining, be happy to be able to buy it at this price. This is a chance for us.

Many have not had that chance with Zcash!

A big thank you to the team of Zcoin, not having released, at launch, a product already finished! Otherwise we should have bought it for $ 200!

So think a little before you complain and buy everything you can, after it will be too late, I tell you!
legendary
Activity: 1901
Merit: 1024
I hope big investors and dev are smart, CPU algos are BAD, even monero is having discussion to move to more GPU favored algo as its abused by botnets!?

Be smart make argon2 parametar a LOT faster on GPU, no ones like botnets!

GPU miners also invest sometimes, botnets ONLY dump, in past you see them being not happy due 80% was mined bu CPU, now be smart and not let your personal stupidity make this coin less worth then it should be with MPH update
full member
Activity: 336
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XZC is going down to like 0.0019 at least, sell now and re-buy later

Any reason for this dump?

Thanks!
mrb
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1027
I feel like people are completely missing the point of Zcoin when they say things like you just did, basically: "MTP is all that matters for Zcoin"
That's completely untrue. I get that it has been marketed heavily as 'revolutionizing mining' etc, and sure, if it can fulfill its promises of putting CPUs and GPUs on comparable if not equal footing

I'll repeat myself: MTP heavily favors GPU. (Not that it's a problem, I think a PoW should favor GPU to avoid botnets mining.)

That depends on the parameters no?

Sure, but you would need very unusual parameters to favor CPUs. For example if Argon2 memory was 8-16 MB instead of 2 GB, it would fit in the CPU L2 cache and likely run better than on GPU.
legendary
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the grandpa of cryptos
XZC is going down to like 0.0019 at least, sell now and re-buy later
sr. member
Activity: 1004
Merit: 268
Firo (FIRO)
I feel like people are completely missing the point of Zcoin when they say things like you just did, basically: "MTP is all that matters for Zcoin"
That's completely untrue. I get that it has been marketed heavily as 'revolutionizing mining' etc, and sure, if it can fulfill its promises of putting CPUs and GPUs on comparable if not equal footing

I'll repeat myself: MTP heavily favors GPU. (Not that it's a problem, I think a PoW should favor GPU to avoid botnets mining.)

That depends on the parameters no?
mrb
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1027
I feel like people are completely missing the point of Zcoin when they say things like you just did, basically: "MTP is all that matters for Zcoin"
That's completely untrue. I get that it has been marketed heavily as 'revolutionizing mining' etc, and sure, if it can fulfill its promises of putting CPUs and GPUs on comparable if not equal footing

I'll repeat myself: MTP heavily favors GPU. (Not that it's a problem, I think a PoW should favor GPU to avoid botnets mining.)
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 250
Monero is about to go to Korea's largest exchange  bithumb,proving that anonymous currencies can also be traded on large exchanges in Korea or Japan,Development team marketing is not very good

Indeed they can. But it's primarily about volume.
Yes, and for having volume, you have to implement the MTP technology.
All the market is waiting since months and months to make XZC bigger and bigger in volume and price.

When MTP will be implemented to XZC ?

I feel like people are completely missing the point of Zcoin when they say things like you just did, basically: "MTP is all that matters for Zcoin"
That's completely untrue. I get that it has been marketed heavily as 'revolutionizing mining' etc, and sure, if it can fulfill its promises of putting CPUs and GPUs on comparable if not equal footing and being scalable to 4 GiB or even 8 GiB of memory usage, then it will certainly be an important next-gen PoW algo. But it will still be just that: a PoW algo.

So here's what you all seem to be missing: Zcoin is a privacy coin based on original technology and working 100% anonymous payments.

And it's better than all its competitors in at least one aspect each:
It's better than Zcash in the sense that it has more reliable, auditable supply (and no Zooko tweeting about/alluding to backdoors).
It's better than Monero and Dash in the sense that it has much larger anonymity sets, meaning that once you've minted your zerocoin, there's mathematically no way of tracing anything (which is still theoretically possible in Monero, albeit very hard).

And it has a roadmap that shows all the promising things they're still working on, including eventually trustlessness.

That alone – the privacy tech – should put it at a market cap comparable to Monero and Dash, at least once enough people have heard about it (especially in the West, since Zcoin is much more popular in southeast Asia).

Not MTP.

Hey Prima Primat, well explained. Why did you say "not MTP"? Is there anything bad about it in your opinion?
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
I've had my wallet open all the time for over a week, just closed to update to the latest version v0.8.7.9-unk and since then all the time opened. Why is it 3 days behind and not synchronizing I only have betwwen 3 and 5 connections.

How can I make so that it connects to more sources.

I have a transaction made to me but i cant see it since it is not synchronizing.

Cheers
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
Monero is about to go to Korea's largest exchange  bithumb,proving that anonymous currencies can also be traded on large exchanges in Korea or Japan,Development team marketing is not very good

Indeed they can. But it's primarily about volume.
Yes, and for having volume, you have to implement the MTP technology.
All the market is waiting since months and months to make XZC bigger and bigger in volume and price.

When MTP will be implemented to XZC ?

I feel like people are completely missing the point of Zcoin when they say things like you just did, basically: "MTP is all that matters for Zcoin"
That's completely untrue. I get that it has been marketed heavily as 'revolutionizing mining' etc, and sure, if it can fulfill its promises of putting CPUs and GPUs on comparable if not equal footing and being scalable to 4 GiB or even 8 GiB of memory usage, then it will certainly be an important next-gen PoW algo. But it will still be just that: a PoW algo.

So here's what you all seem to be missing: Zcoin is a privacy coin based on original technology and working 100% anonymous payments.

And it's better than all its competitors in at least one aspect each:
It's better than Zcash in the sense that it has more reliable, auditable supply (and no Zooko tweeting about/alluding to backdoors).
It's better than Monero and Dash in the sense that it has much larger anonymity sets, meaning that once you've minted your zerocoin, there's mathematically no way of tracing anything (which is still theoretically possible in Monero, albeit very hard).

And it has a roadmap that shows all the promising things they're still working on, including eventually trustlessness.

That alone – the privacy tech – should put it at a market cap comparable to Monero and Dash, at least once enough people have heard about it (especially in the West, since Zcoin is much more popular in southeast Asia).

Not MTP.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1002
Anyone here mining on Windows 7 x64 with an AMD card?
 I keep trying to run sgminer but it don't work
don't know how to fix it


I had the same problem and contacted the miner's dev on Slack he gave me a binary that works on Windows 7, here's the link:

https://github.com/djm34/sgminer-msvc2015/releases/download/v0.1-pre/sgminer-msvc2015.rar
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Anyone here mining on Windows 7 x64 with an AMD card?
 I keep trying to run sgminer but it don't work
don't know how to fix it
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 440
Monero is about to go to Korea's largest exchange  bithumb,proving that anonymous currencies can also be traded on large exchanges in Korea or Japan,Development team marketing is not very good

Indeed they can. But it's primarily about volume.
Yes, and for having volume, you have to implement the MTP technology.
All the market is waiting since months and months to make XZC bigger and bigger in volume and price.

When MTP will be implemented to XZC ?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0

I believe we are still at the beginning of the journey.
With the full integration of MTP, this coin still has much to demonstrate !
So we expect so many great satisfactions from Zcoin
sr. member
Activity: 1004
Merit: 268
Firo (FIRO)
Monero is about to go to Korea's largest exchange  bithumb,proving that anonymous currencies can also be traded on large exchanges in Korea or Japan,Development team marketing is not very good

Indeed they can. But it's primarily about volume.
full member
Activity: 199
Merit: 100
Monero is about to go to Korea's largest exchange  bithumb,proving that anonymous currencies can also be traded on large exchanges in Korea or Japan,Development team marketing is not very good
sr. member
Activity: 1216
Merit: 333
Is there any news about new exchanges ..? When I see the volume of Bittrex for a high quality altcoin! Even if I think the volume will eventually arrive on bittrex, it would be interesting that Zcoin is listed on other exchanges. Binance could also be a good opportunity!
full member
Activity: 199
Merit: 100

Mining a zcoin, convert usd or cny about how much money,Where I can see this information
sr. member
Activity: 1004
Merit: 268
Firo (FIRO)
If anyone wants to see how Zerocoin transactions look like on the blockchain:

Check out a sample mint transaction where 50 coins go into a blackhole.
http://explorer.zcoin.io/tx/b827e91bee75e4abae8590206b088f05f6b9c563dc56e5e71c42da9523ebcccd
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xzc/tx.dws?b827e91bee75e4abae8590206b088f05f6b9c563dc56e5e71c42da9523ebcccd.htm

This is a sample spend transaction where 50 coins come out from the blackhole and have no linkage with its mint transaction or any history at all.
http://explorer.zcoin.io/tx/d75cd4bfae85bc278900eb4728f71eedea1dec2a16d3f18551dfcd43b413ac07
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xzc/tx.dws?d75cd4bfae85bc278900eb4728f71eedea1dec2a16d3f18551dfcd43b413ac07.htm

The point is that the 50 coin from the Zerocoin spend transaction could have come from any of the people who minted 50 coins giving it very high anonymity.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1002
I realized I get way better hashrate using my CPU than my graphics card which is great, it's really hard to find coins that are CPU mining friendly these days and once MTP is implemented hopefully Zcoin will get more attention.

I 've tried with an Intel i3 7100T @3.40 Ghz ( 4-threads, not sure if it's quad core too),  and it mines at 280 KH/s , while a GTX 1080 is about 2x faster but it consumes 180/200 W while an i3 consumes like 70 W if i'm right, it's like 1/3.
EDIT: i was wrong, it consumes 35W ( http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/489/Intel_Core_i3_i3-7100_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-7100T.html )

So my CPU has better performance/consumption ratio BUT not better hashrate.

Maybe you tried with an i7 and it outperforms even a 1080 ?

Which processor did you try and what hashate did you get ?


I get 350 Kh/s with a laptop's i7-4702MQ , I tried mining with an old R9 280x GPU and only got around 260 Kh/s.
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