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Topic: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER - page 69. (Read 68205 times)

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December 30, 2017, 04:25:21 AM
How many Zero related coins?? Is this Zero somehow related to Zoin coin?

You mean if they are brothers, sisters, cousins?

It seems this plays a lot lately

DM
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December 30, 2017, 04:20:29 AM

I have a question now:
He said welcome back sis so...
Are Zero and Hush sisters?
OR is Hush the brother and Zero is the sister?
I am confused...

DM
sr. member
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December 30, 2017, 04:16:50 AM
Any bounties?  I can look at doing a Mac wallet.

Sure...

You know the previous dev handling the project gathered 1500 Zero from community members

Although i do not like to judge or criticize especially a predecessor...
Well he left with those coins... That's about 8.000$ today

So for now the Community wallet works with donations. People donate and help the dev team pay or be paid for their work
Wallet for donations is in first page


If anyone could find Tearo and remind him that he owes 1500 Zero to the Community it would be nice

DM
sr. member
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December 30, 2017, 04:10:30 AM
This is so bullshit, How can a coin be so high on exchange with such crappy miner ..

It makes you wonder indeed...
Also another question: How are all these people mining with such a crappy miner?
I guess they don't have crappy cards OR they know how to mine

I am not saying it's the best software miner out there but it does work.

Either way
if someone needs help with mining we help, he mines. That's it.

DM
sr. member
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December 30, 2017, 03:58:44 AM
longtime supporter here
did the logo and support, great job Demarsac, however, gutted as sold most my coins on way up before 10k!

I didn't realise coinmarketcap is wrong, showing 2 million coins, there is only 400k coins!
zero explorer
http://zeroexplorer.forgetop.com/

Coin Supply (ZER)
410212.13411166

so coinmarketcap showing marketcap of 10 million which is very low compared to zcash and zcl etc

however our marketcap is actually a FIFTH of what showing
we are actually only a marketcap of about 2 million!

can easy go 10 fold from here!!!

sellers regret here, best wishes to all.

I have a donation address if you wish  Smiley



Doesnt make sense, explorer clearly says we are at block no225262, x10 coins per block amounts to 2.2 million coins available.
Either the explorer messes up the coin amount count or.....perhaps it doesnt count coins that are stored in private z-addresses ?

I agree! I also wanted to point out this same thing, but you beat me to it. With the Current block count being at 225,271 we should have 2,252,710 coins in circulation. So the 410,xxx doesnt add up. Besides, 410,212.13411166 cannot be possible especially if the coins are created by increments of 10. Unless some coins are being destroyed somehow!?

this is just a function of z addresses all coins stored in z anon addresses will not show in the explorer.


right, this is something I am aware of but didn't consider. mostly because I wasn't assuming the widget that displays the coin on the block explorer was actually polling a survey of the t-addresses.. are you sure about that? that being no the (z) address thing but the algo used to retrieve the coins in existence data. it is still ambiguous and if that is the reason (z storage) it should be somehow specified on the site.

who did the create on the block explorer and what is the function that derives that number which is inaccurate? honestly if we are actually polling all t-addresses then the label for that field is definitively wrong and should be specified as "known coins on t-addresses" not "total network coins".

that said, this is the number on coinmarketcap: 1,991,680 ZER

so they are both wrong then.

looking into this it seems the explorer is not working correctly and is not showing the total blocks if your search for block 1 to 150000 it gives no results but does for 160000+ so this could be the issue

This is a multiple post...
I agree to some of the above and disagree to others
Don't want to complicate this further so to put things in a simple way

We inherited a part of the block explorer and trying to fix it to report correctly
The problem is of course the Z-addresses that don't appear and as advertised no one can know what goes where

The best is probably the simplest solution to just correct the math but we are still debating with the others
some of the devs believe we can find a better solution
so to be continued....


DM
sr. member
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December 30, 2017, 03:41:59 AM
OK Guys

I am back from traveling JUST ONE DAY
I have to read 5 pages in this forum plus countless emails, pms, slack, Twitter, etc.
I will start from the newest to the oldest and start answering to the serious ones that need an answer
Plus i will answer some really funny ones... Like calling a dump a 30% fall after a 1300% increase Smiley
These are the best making my fever and staying home for now very interesting


I think it's obvious by now that Zero has turned page


Being ON the map means that now we will start hearing all kinds of things etc..
PEOPLE occupying themselves with ZERO even if they don't agree on everything is a big deal
its says a lot to what we do and where we are heading...

Cheers guys and Happy New Year with families and lovedones

Although you will be hearing from me way before that

Thanks

DM
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December 30, 2017, 03:32:35 AM
Such an obvious pump and dump on this coin

Pump and dump??? Seriously?
HAHahaa

DM

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December 30, 2017, 03:31:02 AM
good project especially because ith has 0 transaction fee but sadly it does not have dev team

Sure, You probably started reading from page 28
You should start from Page 1

DM
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December 30, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
Any bounties?  I can look at doing a Mac wallet.
full member
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December 30, 2017, 01:38:58 AM
@ green_coins_and_ham

I think this is a very good idea: buying zero using a credit/debit card directly from the zero website.
The zero website could act as an intermediator between the retail customer and i.e. cryptopia, and save the retail customer from the hussle of registering in the exchange, then convert fiat into btc and then into zer.
This could be revolutionary for a crypto and I think it should be considered seriously.

I have no idea how feasible/easy it may be, involving financial regulations etc, but it could help make zero accessible to a much wider customer base.
newbie
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December 30, 2017, 01:15:36 AM
Hi Guys--sounds like a great product. Looking forward to a bright future. Just bought some coins on cryptopia.

Can someone provide a method (or steps), whereby I can have my customers make purchases at my store, with the zero currency? 

Right now, I am trialing a bitcoin button, and it uses javascript in the html of my wix store.  Few takers though, and a lot of complaints that they want to buy using the traditional methods, paypal and credit card. However, with lots of cajoling and comparing it to paypal as the "new version" and poking at them on emails, I know that, even though this is a group of late-adopters will (for you product life cycle advocates) and are coming around. Much to their consternation, I have relatively unique products and they want them, and I can stomach the loss in sales for this product line as my main lines are prospering now.

That said, my customers do not want a lot of fussing around their first crypto purchase to make a store transaction. They just want some simple guidance. And for this lot, they sometimes want to hide the purchase from "the wife" because if she saw how much he plunked down for his tools, well, he might get quite an earful, or worse, no sex for a week. So for me, as a savvy business owner, there is an opportunity here for my new zero investment (a meager 45 coins).

Also, the zero website (and I did a run through the two bitcointalk threads), is a good start, but really needs some more meat.   I am afraid if I send a customer there, they might be scared off by the lack of content.

And, as far as the stigma goes, over these private currencies, I suggest a long term approach that adjusts the message as the audience adopts them more. At this point in time, if I asked my customers what they thought of truly private crypto currencies, well, they might be afraid to mention as it may cause them trouble or someone might be listening. I think that overcoming this inhibition is a first step, and modeling the approach after others (albeit in different fields) can be a great start.  Such as the openness today for condoms, and viagra. It was tough on those products in the early years, compared to the widespread acceptance and adoption today.

And, my customers, the general work during the day kind of man, tinker at night in the workshop, located in the US (70%) and Europe (about 30%), they do not know a Monero from a Z cash, from a Zero, from a Zencash.  So, a good website presentation and an easy exchange without demanding ID, sthould be sufficient to guide them to the "standard" offering of crypto on my website. You know--two flavors, open ledger with the big name bitcoin, or Zero for privacy.

If you guys need some input on the website marketing, it was one of my majors, so happy to help, and increase my investment value in zero.  The approach is simple. First, run through the competition, evaluate their sites and take the best parts to include in the zero site (this way you know nothing is missing or lacking from the competitive approach), then one-up-'em by reading some case studies on Viagara and condoms (whoever is the big name there), then morph their strategies and methods into the approach for the website. In other words, use their techniques for overcoming inhibitions to make "privacy" coin talk an open subject, fit for cashier stand display, where no one needs to turn, or shy away.

But honestly, I truly believe the way to increase the zero value is in commerce, the utility of using it as a means of exchange for goods and services. So if you can get me the code to use on my wix stores, that should help to increase adoption, exposure, and discussion.


newbie
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December 29, 2017, 10:26:46 PM
good project especially because ith has 0 transaction fee but sadly it does not have dev team

Looks like there will be a dev team announcement soon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroCoins/comments/7mxedu/news_to_come_171228/

member
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Merit: 10
December 29, 2017, 10:21:48 PM
longtime supporter here
did the logo and support, great job Demarsac, however, gutted as sold most my coins on way up before 10k!

I didn't realise coinmarketcap is wrong, showing 2 million coins, there is only 400k coins!
zero explorer
http://zeroexplorer.forgetop.com/

Coin Supply (ZER)
410212.13411166

so coinmarketcap showing marketcap of 10 million which is very low compared to zcash and zcl etc

however our marketcap is actually a FIFTH of what showing
we are actually only a marketcap of about 2 million!

can easy go 10 fold from here!!!

sellers regret here, best wishes to all.

I have a donation address if you wish  Smiley



Doesnt make sense, explorer clearly says we are at block no225262, x10 coins per block amounts to 2.2 million coins available.
Either the explorer messes up the coin amount count or.....perhaps it doesnt count coins that are stored in private z-addresses ?

I agree! I also wanted to point out this same thing, but you beat me to it. With the Current block count being at 225,271 we should have 2,252,710 coins in circulation. So the 410,xxx doesnt add up. Besides, 410,212.13411166 cannot be possible especially if the coins are created by increments of 10. Unless some coins are being destroyed somehow!?

this is just a function of z addresses all coins stored in z anon addresses will not show in the explorer.


right, this is something I am aware of but didn't consider. mostly because I wasn't assuming the widget that displays the coin on the block explorer was actually polling a survey of the t-addresses.. are you sure about that? that being no the (z) address thing but the algo used to retrieve the coins in existence data. it is still ambiguous and if that is the reason (z storage) it should be somehow specified on the site.

who did the create on the block explorer and what is the function that derives that number which is inaccurate? honestly if we are actually polling all t-addresses then the label for that field is definitively wrong and should be specified as "known coins on t-addresses" not "total network coins".

that said, this is the number on coinmarketcap: 1,991,680 ZER

so they are both wrong then.

looking into this it seems the explorer is not working correctly and is not showing the total blocks if your search for block 1 to 150000 it gives no results but does for 160000+ so this could be the issue
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December 29, 2017, 10:19:24 PM
good project especially because ith has 0 transaction fee but sadly it does not have dev team
full member
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December 29, 2017, 09:23:23 PM
very sad when dev leaves the project. If community will be strong enough to survive the difficult period, the project will become stronger after crisis!
new devs showed up when the one who can't hang does leave. no problem. why you say crisis? is that a joke?

zero is blasting off. stand back and watch out!
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December 29, 2017, 09:20:41 PM
This is so bullshit, How can a coin be so high on exchange with such crappy miner ..
the only bullshit here is your attitude.
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December 29, 2017, 09:19:08 PM

thats great people are talking about zero but I really don't see the big deal to put someone on a pedestal like that. Zero has talent involved with the project the public is not even aware of. Working silently behind the scenes. without ego.

the more broad spread community support received is the better zero does.. who cares about one guy?
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December 29, 2017, 09:13:27 PM
Hi all. I translated into Russian https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-zero-zer-2664364  Wink good luck comunity. Zero to the moon!

thank you friend, I am hoping Zero will be moving more and more towards internationalization and extensive support for people who don't speak English. it is almost sad to see the bulk of the software existing today expecting everyone to know English.. When we are a global team. Thank you.
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December 29, 2017, 09:12:29 PM
No, the real bullshit is from people who don't bother READING instructions but they just wanna start a miner and make money.

ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD IT SAYS ZERO ALGORITHM IS MADE FOR 8+GB CARDS.

THERE IS ALSO A SPECIAL OPTIMINER VERSION FOR 4GB AMD CARDS THAT WORKS FINE.

3GB AND 6GB NVIDIA CARDS ARE NOT SUPPORTED.

THERE IS A VERY EASY MINER MOD FOR 8GB NVIDIA CARDS THAT MAKES THE MINER STEADY.

NO MOD OR SPECIAL VERSION NEEDED FOR LINUX/ETHOS/SIMPLEMINING.

IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE ABOVE, DON'T LOOK THE GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH AND GO MINE ANOTHER COIN!

stay down man
in the same first page of this thread its showing somes gpu hash

MINING HARDWARE ROUGH ESTIMATES
AMD
RX 480 = 10 h/s
RX 580 = 10 h/s
NVIDIA
1060 = 9 h/s  Cool
1070 = 11 h/s
1070ti = 11-12 h/s
1080 = 12 h/s
1080ti = 15 h/s

how its possible then?

It is only possible in Linux. I refer to all complaints coming from people running Windows. It is very clear on the OptiminerZero git page that the miner only works for 8GB cards and if you want to use a 4GB card you need to download a different version. OptiminerEquihash is the updated version of the miner, but it is meant to work only in Linux. These things are very clear if you bother read a couple of lines instead of clicking on the first download link appearing first on the list.

I copy directly from:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerEquihash

Quote

Note that depending on the Equihash parameters the amount of GPU memory needed varies a lot:

    equihash192_7: >6GB

There is currently no support for AMD Vega cards!



And I copy directly from:
https://github.com/Optiminer/OptiminerZero

Quote

v1.2.0

Download Linux 8GB GPU 64bit

Download Linux 4GB GPU 64bit

Download Windows 8GB GPU 64bit

Download Windows 4GB GPU 64bit

Important: There are different versions for GPUs with 4GB and 8GB of RAM! If you have a card with only 4GB download the other version (1.1.0). 4GB is for AMD only!

Changelog

    [1.0.0] Initial release.
    [1.1.0] Special version for 4GB cards (slower).
    [1.2.0] Add support for NVIDIA cards.  ----> This means Nvidia cards are NOT SUPPORTED in version 1.1 which is only for 4GB AMD cards

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December 29, 2017, 09:10:11 PM
and speaking of "auditable" and "unauditable" coin supplies, where those who have "auditable" supplies have used that as a "selling point" somehow claiming that makes their private coin better.. is a very strange notion. in my opinion, a reverse psychology. without naming names the main promoter of that concept (audibility) is the same coin that got "hacked" from a "typo bug" to the tune of millions of coins. being that the coin supply is auditable, the only favorable aspect to that, is that they know they were robbed. (it all seems to suspect to me but I am not here to dig up dirt on others) ..

I guess to the point of what I am saying- destroying the history of a coin and putting a "new" coin on a t-address that is in the same wallet as all the other t-address doesn't really do much for privacy!! a real paradox if you ask me. the only truly private coin is the one that _cannot_ be audited by the public.
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