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Topic: [ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - NGW - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation - page 63. (Read 271652 times)

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We're not in Wonderland anymore Alice
Sorry for the newb question but can I just install the new 8.6.1 over the current version and my balance will be safe? Or is there some special procedure? Thanks!!
its just new client, your balance will be the same, tested
hero member
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Always backup your wallet.dat file, that's where all your addresses are. You can delete everything else.
newbie
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Sorry for the newb question but can I just install the new 8.6.1 over the current version and my balance will be safe? Or is there some special procedure? Thanks!!
legendary
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Hiro need gorgeous website and new icon.
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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
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6 Gigs is still a very healthy hashrate,

yes it is.

but still doesnt change the FACT that its down from 12 gh in 48 hours.

LOL that'll be the 'espresso traders' bleeding & dumping another 'novelty' coin coz Coinwarz says it's a couple of cents more profitable TODAY.

Fuck 'em.
legendary
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6 Gigs is still a very healthy hashrate,

yes it is.

but still doesnt change the FACT that its down from 12 gh in 48 hours.
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Not necessarily, if we succeed to get the price up again miners will switch back. Keep in mind that us miners need to think about paying our electricitybills and such, so as soon as a coin is not profitable enough alot of miners switch. If that same coin later on gets profitable again, people switch back.

I for one stay at mining Hirocoin as I believe the price will rise again, and less miners means less competition and thus more coins for me Smiley

Hirocoin has huge potential, with all crap going on with darkcoin Hirocoin seems to be an extremely valable alternative. Now I am convinced the price is kept low on purpose by some daytraders but knowing that many of them invested in Hirocoin one week ago chances are relatively good for them to push Hirocoin back up again to the value where it should be.

So far I've been lucky enough with picking my coins to invest in,( usually the underdog) I hope I'm correct again with this coin and we'll see prices above 0.00003000 again within 2-3 weeks time. Untill then, I'm mining all-in Hirocoin and hope to reach around 100k when the price is right again... then I'll dump half the coins in small portions so i don't bring the price down and keep the other half as future investment


Well said.
I feel the same way, and am doing/acting exactly the same.
legendary
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Zeit is my long-term investment - NOT for personal gain but to help change the world! With 25% PoS in year One & 20% in year Two it would be INSANE to start trading it before 2016 at the very earliest.

Zeit will die before summer.
newbie
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this coin is dead.

48 hours ago hash was 12 gh

now  6 gh

half the miners left the boat. the other half will soon realize it is going down and will switch their rigs to more profitable waters.

this coin is living

hero member
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Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
this coin is dead.

48 hours ago hash was 12 gh

now  6 gh

half the miners left the boat. the other half will soon realize it is going down and will switch their rigs to more profitable waters.


Says the dude with the concrete parachute! Enjoy the fall, coz your 'landing' is gonna be a total BITCH Wink

6 Gigs is still a very healthy hashrate, & doubles what those of us confident in the future of Hiro are benefiting from mining.

I've only been mining Hiro for about a week and with my single HD7990 (I was a gamer - Skyrim - before I became an alt-coiner) I have around 2,500 Hiro in my wallet.

I haven't even LOOKED at the markets! I don't care. Not until I have enough Hiro to make it worthwhile - maybe 20,000.

Only then will I start tracking, and working out when it might be right to trade PART OF my stash.

Zeit is my long-term investment - NOT for personal gain but to help change the world! With 25% PoS in year One & 20% in year Two it would be INSANE to start trading it before 2016 at the very earliest.

Hiro is my medium-term investment - at least six months, possibly more.

NO WUCKING FURRIES MATE Cheesy
hero member
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this coin is dead.

48 hours ago hash was 12 gh

now  6 gh

half the miners left the boat. the other half will soon realize it is going down and will switch their rigs to more profitable waters.




Not necessarily, if we succeed to get the price up again miners will switch back. Keep in mind that us miners need to think about paying our electricitybills and such, so as soon as a coin is not profitable enough alot of miners switch. If that same coin later on gets profitable again, people switch back.

I for one stay at mining Hirocoin as I believe the price will rise again, and less miners means less competition and thus more coins for me Smiley

Hirocoin has huge potential, with all crap going on with darkcoin Hirocoin seems to be an extremely valable alternative. Now I am convinced the price is kept low on purpose by some daytraders but knowing that many of them invested in Hirocoin one week ago chances are relatively good for them to push Hirocoin back up again to the value where it should be.

So far I've been lucky enough with picking my coins to invest in,( usually the underdog) I hope I'm correct again with this coin and we'll see prices above 0.00003000 again within 2-3 weeks time. Untill then, I'm mining all-in Hirocoin and hope to reach around 100k when the price is right again... then I'll dump half the coins in small portions so i don't bring the price down and keep the other half as future investment

sr. member
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Bitnation Development Team Member
this coin is dead.

48 hours ago hash was 12 gh

now  6 gh

half the miners left the boat. the other half will soon realize it is going down and will switch their rigs to more profitable waters.


I don't see why you think this is the case - the Darkcoin hash rate flickered between 7 and 15GH for weeks before stabilising... It still is up and down ~10GH all the time. Please stop spreading FUD, it doesn't help anybody.
legendary
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this coin is dead.

48 hours ago hash was 12 gh

now  6 gh

half the miners left the boat. the other half will soon realize it is going down and will switch their rigs to more profitable waters.


legendary
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Can we still use all existing addresses from the old client or do we need to generate a new one, for example for mining p2p?

There will be no change in that respect at all - a hard fork usually changes nothing but data held in the blockchain. All you'll see if you don't update is your wallet will stop synchronising with the network until you install the latest version!

Yup, and for the "wallet.dat": always have at least one back-up of it, stored at a safe place.
sr. member
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Bitnation Development Team Member
On Chrome (and with wget) the download failed though, I think because of a certificate mismatch between your host and Cloudflare.
Probably better to move the download section outside the ssl domain.

Oops I skipped over this. I've notified HiroS and he'll look into that ASAP. Of course we have to make this as simple as possible. Thanks for notifying us.
sr. member
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Bitnation Development Team Member
Can we still use all existing addresses from the old client or do we need to generate a new one, for example for mining p2p?

There will be no change in that respect at all - a hard fork usually changes nothing but data held in the blockchain. All you'll see if you don't update is your wallet will stop synchronising with the network until you install the latest version!
hero member
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WOW! How nice is that?
I received an UPDATE NOTICE from inside my wallet.

This is good news and the way to go.
Will you make it a total silent update?
Like "A new version of your wallet has been downloaded, your wallet has to be restarted to install it.
Do you want restart your wallet now ? {Now,Later}"

On Chrome (and with wget) the download failed though, I think because of a certificate mismatch between your host and Cloudflare.
Probably better to move the download section outside the ssl domain.

Thanks for contributing your ideas!

The main issue I see with this is the issue of trust. It is always a better option privacy- and security-wise to allow the user to go to the official location, verify their download and install the client. Very much in the same vein as banks work: they'll never email you with a link to click and log into your account, because of the chances of the email containing a malicious link.

If that part of the chain was compromised, and every client updated itself with a malicious precompiled version, it could potentially empty everyone's wallet, or always send to the same wallet address no matter what you typed in. This would be a disaster for everybody holding HIRO, because in crypto there's no transaction reversal for the most part - and this is very deliberate.

If we simply send out a client message telling people that they should now visit our official site, then download and verify their version is clean via a checksum then we can ensure that the possibilities for breaking the security chain are as minimal as possible. Our main focusses are security AND usability, so we want to find a happy balance which is pretty secure, but doesn't require you to be an IT specialist to understand.

Thats of course true, but I think secure deployment methods are very important for mandatory updates and necessary for ease of use for end user applications.
Thanks anyway for all the work you've put into this.
hero member
Activity: 608
Merit: 500
WOW! How nice is that?
I received an UPDATE NOTICE from inside my wallet.

This is good news and the way to go.
Will you make it a total silent update?
Like "A new version of your wallet has been downloaded, your wallet has to be restarted to install it.
Do you want restart your wallet now ? {Now,Later}"

On Chrome (and with wget) the download failed though, I think because of a certificate mismatch between your host and Cloudflare.
Probably better to move the download section outside the ssl domain.

Thanks for contributing your ideas!

The main issue I see with this is the issue of trust. It is always a better option privacy- and security-wise to allow the user to go to the official location, verify their download and install the client. Very much in the same vein as banks work: they'll never email you with a link to click and log into your account, because of the chances of the email containing a malicious link.

If that part of the chain was compromised, and every client updated itself with a malicious precompiled version, it could potentially empty everyone's wallet, or always send to the same wallet address no matter what you typed in. This would be a disaster for everybody holding HIRO, because in crypto there's no transaction reversal for the most part - and this is very deliberate.

If we simply send out a client message telling people that they should now visit our official site, then download and verify their version is clean via a checksum then we can ensure that the possibilities for breaking the security chain are as minimal as possible. Our main focusses are security AND usability, so we want to find a happy balance which is pretty secure, but doesn't require you to be an IT specialist to understand.

Can we still use all existing addresses from the old client or do we need to generate a new one, for example for mining p2p?
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Bitnation Development Team Member
WOW! How nice is that?
I received an UPDATE NOTICE from inside my wallet.

This is good news and the way to go.
Will you make it a total silent update?
Like "A new version of your wallet has been downloaded, your wallet has to be restarted to install it.
Do you want restart your wallet now ? {Now,Later}"

On Chrome (and with wget) the download failed though, I think because of a certificate mismatch between your host and Cloudflare.
Probably better to move the download section outside the ssl domain.

Thanks for contributing your ideas!

The main issue I see with this is the issue of trust. It is always a better option privacy- and security-wise to allow the user to go to the official location, verify their download and install the client. Very much in the same vein as banks work: they'll never email you with a link to click and log into your account, because of the chances of the email containing a malicious link.

If that part of the chain was compromised, and every client updated itself with a malicious precompiled version, it could potentially empty everyone's wallet, or always send to the same wallet address no matter what you typed in. This would be a disaster for everybody holding HIRO, because in crypto there's no transaction reversal for the most part - and this is very deliberate.

If we simply send out a client message telling people that they should now visit our official site, then download and verify their version is clean via a checksum then we can ensure that the possibilities for breaking the security chain are as minimal as possible. Our main focusses are security AND usability, so we want to find a happy balance which is pretty secure, but doesn't require you to be an IT specialist to understand.
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Could the owner of the car, type sell order with licence plate 84299.37685879 parked at 0.00001400 please remove his vehicle?
It's blocking the main exits for our customers leaving for the moon!
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