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Now the wallet is saying we're near 30m in the hole.

I'm just trying to get my mind around how it lets you send more than you had?  Or do you mean that you lost a bunch of your own coins?

I thought the point was that you couldn't run a negative balance?

This seems fishy. Didn't think it could happen.
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Its possible that the transaction issues are a side effect of the network being small, and screwed up. I've been working a little bit on a backup pool, and the wallet WILL NOT sync. I've added every node I can find, still will not sync. I love birdcoin, very much so, but I'm afraid that there may be more deep seated problems than my screwed up pool.

I tend to agree.  I've noticed some very strange behavior even when I solo mine or use the P2P pool.  I'm not an expert enough to know what causes it, but I know they don't happen with other coins.  That has always made me suspicious of the wallet. 

If there any point continuing or should the coin just be abandoned?  There are plenty of other choices out there that are already on exchanges but nearly as easy to mine.
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Its possible that the transaction issues are a side effect of the network being small, and screwed up. I've been working a little bit on a backup pool, and the wallet WILL NOT sync. I've added every node I can find, still will not sync. I love birdcoin, very much so, but I'm afraid that there may be more deep seated problems than my screwed up pool.
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I'm kinda freakin out here. Anyway, here's a couple of things that I've noticed about the wallet in the last little bit. I was transferring my personal stash back into the pool to make up for some of the double paid stuff, and had to break it into several transactions.. 100k - Transaction too big, 90k - went through, 500k - transaction too big, 500k - went through. I even had one instance where it gave me a message that it was too big, and went through anyway. There's some issues with this wallet. Going back into the payout logs, alot that were flagged as missing were from way back when I opened the pool, I just never noticed because no flags went up until today. This is a reason I didn't enable "sendmany" for my pool, to avoid issues like this. I'm going to keep it running a couple more days to see if it craps out or not. If it keeps running without issues, I pretty much owe the pool everything I can possibly mine for the next few weeks and I'm mining and donating 100% for the wallet, but we need the developer to come in and have a serious look at the wallet's code, if that's possible. I have a feeling this is just a copy/paste job and the issues are carried over from whatever this coin was forked from.

I understand if anyone's pissed. I am too, extremely so. The best I can say is be patient, lets see if this thing irons itself out or not. If you feel you're missing a payment, check http://explorer2.sancrypto.info/chain/birdcoin/ and see if you can find it. If not, please contact me and I'll see what I can do!

Thanks everyone, you guys have been awesome.
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Now the wallet is saying we're near 30m in the hole.

I'm just trying to get my mind around how it lets you send more than you had?  Or do you mean that you lost a bunch of your own coins?

I thought the point was that you couldn't run a negative balance?

Well, our liquid assets are in the hole. You have so much in the wallet, minus what's "locked for users", the difference is the liquid assets. In this case, in the hole. I sent all my personal stash to counter some of it, Still around -24m

How the system got out of whack, I'll probably never know. The problem is, I'm not even sure if the payout discrepancies subtracted what they were supposed to from the "locked" balance. I've seen transactions get stuck before and pay them out manually, then run the validation script on them again and they show the TXID. In this case there's way too many, and the ones I fixed still didn't show up with a TXID, and a lot got double paid. At this point, it's so far out of whack that there's no hope of getting it fixed by hand, either we can let the system even itself out (by accumulating fees, donations, what I mine, etc) and pray there's no more errors and legitimately stuck payouts, or start fresh on a new pool, let people withdraw what they can, and let me slowly pay back whatever we are missing. This is the worst mess I've ever seen.
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Now the wallet is saying we're near 30m in the hole.

I'm just trying to get my mind around how it lets you send more than you had?  Or do you mean that you lost a bunch of your own coins?

I thought the point was that you couldn't run a negative balance?
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Lots of double payouts. I still don't know why the wallet didn't give TXID to those tons of payouts, but this is a huge mess. If anyone is kind enough to return extra that they got paid out, or to chip in to help fix the pool's balance, the address is KwgpnEnaNTh53CUvdirEeqmgiyPwDqJoBd (weird that some addresses start with K, some with L)

I'm very frustrated right now, this isn't what I had in mind for this pool.
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I have 5468.80959712 BRD just sitting Unconfirmed in Wallet... Even mining on P2pool BRD Server accepting shares yet nothing in wallet is confirming :/

UPDATE: Has Been Confirmed Now, so fork hasn't Happened Cheesy

That's good to hear, but on my pool, things are WAY screwed up.

It started with crons getting stuck, so I ran my payout validation script.. Thousands of missing payouts. I ran a LOT of them manually, come to find out after digging through the block explorer, even though my validator flagged them as missing, some of these payouts did go through, and they're weeks old. Well, ok, so what's going on? Why didn't it assign a TXID to these payments? So, I run some more through, run the validate a few more times, still flagged as missing. And there's a TON of payments in the payout ledger that are all identical, so even if they're missing, running them by hand isn't going to matter. Now the wallet is saying we're near 30m in the hole. This is a real mess and there's many, many millions of BRD on the line. The wallet not assigning TXID's really screwed up things in the database. At this point, I really have no way of telling if anyone did or didn't get their payment, other than checking on a case-by-case basis. My thoughts are to stop the pool, start up a new one and move everyone to that one, since all our unconfirmed blocks are going to take forever to confirm if I just flat shut the pool down. I admittedly was not prepared for this type of scenario so I don't know what the best course of action would be.

If anyone gets shorted or screwed over, I deeply apologize. I guess for now, keep mining in the pool, I adjusted some things and hopefully the discrepancies in the database won't prevent everyone from withdrawing their coins... I'm going to make a backup pool and later on we'll see about getting everyone moved to that, keeping the old one open for people to w/d their coins. I'm deeply sorry about all this.
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I have 5468.80959712 BRD just sitting Unconfirmed in Wallet... Even mining on P2pool BRD Server accepting shares yet nothing in wallet is confirming :/

UPDATE: Has Been Confirmed Now, so fork hasn't Happened Cheesy
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Ok, things are very screwed up. I'm going to set up a fresh pool, I need everyone to withdraw their coins from the pool, and I'll have to manually fix whatever doesn't get sent. Did the blockchain fork or something? I've never personally experienced that so I wouldn't know.

Everyone will have to stop mining for the moment and give everything time to confirm, just withdraw whatever you can. Once that's done, I'll have a look at what's left over, run validation on it and see where we're at.

I'm very sorry.

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Keep an eye on the thread for the new pool and other news.
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Oh my god. Something has gone very very wrong.

Thousands of payouts are reflected in the pool's DB as credited, yet there's no TXID and my validation script is saying they're missing. I don't know what's up with that, but after manually crediting like 25 million worth, the pool's wallet tracking is showing us hugely in the negative. There's THOUSANDS of transactions that seem to have not been credited but I really don't know if they have or not. Something is very, very wrong.


If I cannot get a handle on this I may have to shut it down, or just start a fresh pool.
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Yes I am a pirate, 300 years too late!
Just had an alert from the pool. A ton of payouts got stuck. I'll fix them, just give me a little while.

Grab a plunger and clean that birdshit out!!!!
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Just had an alert from the pool. A ton of payouts got stuck. I'll fix them, just give me a little while.


Something has gone horribly wrong.

I think I'm going to have to shut down the pool.
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