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Topic: [ANN][BITS][Bitstar] Now on Cryptopia, Nova and Yobit new wallet fork in testing - page 39. (Read 438035 times)

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So what is the percentage going to be after 25% of this year (after May 2016)

Well the annual inflation rate and the APR 'interest' rate you can earn through staking are two different things under the new staking calculation of the coming codebase which removes the 'coin-age' and variable reward of the existing system.

For example, if the first year on the new codebase provides for a set block reward which equates to a 3% increase in the total number of coins after 12 months, the second year would still have the same number of coins being added as the first, due to there being the same number of blocks being produced, but the total coins in circulation would have increased, thereby resulting in a slight reduction in annual inflation for the second year of just below 3% and will continue reducing each year after that.

As of now people are able to leave their wallets switched off yet still receive an accumulated staking reward which is based on coin-age, thereby providing them with an amount of coins as though they had been staking the entire time, which is hardly fair. The new staking calculation rewards the same number of coins per block, meaning that if 10% of all the wallets are staking, they will each receive a proportional share of the total coins being issued. So there is a variable interest rate over the 12 months based on how much staking you do. If 10% of the coins are staked, they will earn a 30% APR but it still produces exactly the same number of coins added to the count each year.

You can thank Rat4 of Blackcoin for realising how to fix the inherently unfair and somewhat insecure (coin-age being able to be accumulated and lend excessive 'weight' to an attacking node is a potential security issue in standard PoS) previous models of staking.
http://blackcoin.co/blackcoin-pos-protocol-v2-whitepaper.pdf
With this new method there is incentive to stake continuously, thereby providing for a stronger network.

So, to answer your question, the new Bitstarcoin codebase is likely to go with a fixed block reward which will be equivalent to 3% inflation in the first year, offering the variation in APR for each staking wallet as discussed. This isn't completely finalised yet but is likely at this stage.

legendary
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jakiman is back!
Wow. That's a lot of BITS. Much more than i expected.

On another note, i can see that my address is there with the correct (tiny) amount.
hero member
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There are now 24 hours given for people to check their submissions and notify us if there are any errors or omissions.

All being considered correct there will be a table listing the allocation for the new coin distribution posted at 12:00 BST tomrrow.

it's 10% of all bits
25% of current bits

Just to remind you that when the new wallet codebase is issued with the new chain, the PoS is switching to the same fixed-reward process. This means that it will have the same number of new coins created each year which, as each year passes, creates for a decreasing inflation rate.

So what is the percentage going to be after 25% of this year (after May 2016)
sr. member
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Well done with that, good work-around.

Unfortunatly, connections are gone after a while, and batl-qt stopped again accepting new blocks :-(

Have you completed your submission?

Yes, I did it before the work-around ;-)

Do you consider 25% as a success?
I do :-) Happy to be in!

Very happy to this hole process. Also happy to coming changes for bits. I believe these changes bring much value for investors. Now waiting excited about information of BATL.
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Well done with that, good work-around.

Unfortunatly, connections are gone after a while, and batl-qt stopped again accepting new blocks :-(

Have you completed your submission?

Yes, I did it before the work-around ;-)

Do you consider 25% as a success?
I do :-) Happy to be in!
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There are now 24 hours given for people to check their submissions and notify us if there are any errors or omissions.

All being considered correct there will be a table listing the allocation for the new coin distribution posted at 12:00 BST tomrrow.

it's 10% of all bits
25% of current bits

Just to remind you that when the new wallet codebase is issued with the new chain, the PoS is switching to the same fixed-reward process. This means that it will have the same number of new coins created each year which, as each year passes, creates for a decreasing inflation rate.
hero member
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it's 10% of all bits
25% of current bits
sr. member
Activity: 313
Merit: 250
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sr. member
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Submission process is now closed.

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table count: 5,119,071.78792500
wallet balance: 5,119,071.78792500

Please quote this post so it cannot be modified.
member
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This is the TEN MINUTE warning.

There are only 10minutes remaining for the submission process. There will be no further warnings.
sr. member
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So far great work from Bits dev team and T3cltd! Happy to be in this community!
member
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Ok, with no requests for an extension, we are calling this the FINAL HOUR for submissions.

60 Minutes remaining.
hero member
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Well done with that, good work-around.

Have you completed your submission?

As things currently stand we are likely to be calling the last hour before cut-off in the next ten minutes as we've not had any requests for an extension.


Let's do it! I'm in, and excited Smiley
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Well done with that, good work-around.

Have you completed your submission?

As things currently stand we are likely to be calling the last hour before cut-off in the next ten minutes as we've not had any requests for an extension.
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Well seeing as it is a new chain it syncs pretty much instantly so as you requested the source code in order to compile it in Linux it would suggest something is amiss there. I've asked the devs to check.
I succeeded to sync this way:
  • compiled batld on raspberry pi
  • launched batld
  • wait a few minutes (saw block 1017: was better than block 4 ;-))
  • deleted everything on my other computer except .conf and wallet.dat
  • copied everything except .conf and wallet from rasp to computer
  • the QT version works fine now :-)
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Approximately how many BITS have been sent for the burn process and how many unique addresses?

That information is not being released until the snapshot is taken at the cut-off time. At this point it s only of use to speculators.
hero member
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It is scheduled to end at 12:00 today. That'll be 12:00 BST/DST what with the clocks having gone forward.

If there are calls for it to be extended for a few hours we are open to such requests.

The process will be that we will provide an update in the final hour announcing a 60minute countdown for final submissions. As soon as the submission period ends a table listing all the deposits will be posted, meaning that any further deposits made to those addresses will not count.

We'll give some time for the community to confirm they are happy that all looks in order and then will post a second table listing the proportional share each deposit will receive. Once confirmed by the community again that the numbers tally we will begin sending the coins to the listed receiving addresses and seek confirmation that everyone has received the number of coins they expected.

Finally, once the distribution has been completed the Bitstarcoins in the deposit addresses will all be consolidated into one address which can be monitored by the community until the new BITS wallet is released. This new codebase will omit that address in the new chain, resulting in a confirmed burn and reduction in total coin supply.


Sounds like a reasonable plan! IMO extending the burn deadline will cause problems, so just close when the time comes. Looking forward to learning more, and following the experiment
hero member
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It is scheduled to end at 12:00 today. That'll be 12:00 BST/DST what with the clocks having gone forward.

If there are calls for it to be extended for a few hours we are open to such requests.

The process will be that we will provide an update in the final hour announcing a 60minute countdown for final submissions. As soon as the submission period ends a table listing all the deposits will be posted, meaning that any further deposits made to those addresses will not count.

We'll give some time for the community to confirm they are happy that all looks in order and then will post a second table listing the proportional share each deposit will receive. Once confirmed by the community again that the numbers tally we will begin sending the coins to the listed receiving addresses and seek confirmation that everyone has received the number of coins they expected.

Finally, once the distribution has been completed the Bitstarcoins in the deposit addresses will all be consolidated into one address which can be monitored by the community until the new BITS wallet is released. This new codebase will omit that address in the new chain, resulting in a confirmed burn and reduction in total coin supply.


Approximately how many BITS have been sent for the burn process and how many unique addresses?
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