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4theLOVEofCrypto

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Quote from: GCab on November 07, 2014, 02:41:08 PM

Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:26:30 PM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:14:50 PM

Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:11:47 PM

Quote from: Poly#Crypto on November 07, 2014, 01:34:23 PM

Quote from: policymaker on November 07, 2014, 01:21:54 PM

to buy with bitcoin or alts?

You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad

and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

On Bittrex there seems to be some available for 0.00025001 and there is still some trading activity so if you put up an order for 3 BTC @ 0.00025001 it will probably get filled in a few hours.
However you will be able to withdraw your Blocks only in 2 days from now.

This is what I would do if I were you. You will get them, and it helps the project's bottom line.

itod

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So we have confirmed numbers so far:
- Poloniex = 24 BTC + 32Million NHZ (how much is that in BTC?)
- BTER = 112 BTC
- Bittrex = 282 BTC left, refund still in progress
- CoinGateway = 348 BTC + 107 BTC "inadvertently locked" or anacounted or ...

Total = 766 BTC sold in ITO + 32Million NHZ (+ 107 BTC unclear state on CoinGatway)

Is this total what everyone agrees right now? Can somebody who has some official status in this mess confirm/deny?

BitcoiNaked

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Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:28:30 PM

Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:26:30 PM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:14:50 PM

Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:11:47 PM

Quote from: Poly#Crypto on November 07, 2014, 01:34:23 PM

Quote from: policymaker on November 07, 2014, 01:21:54 PM

to buy with bitcoin or alts?

You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad

and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

Then there is a wall on Bittrex waiting for you 0.00025001 12828.35499136 3.2072

Hey i just got back, just saw it but there is rouphly 0.4 BTC available, has it been chewed already?

atcsecure

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Quote from: itod on November 07, 2014, 02:50:57 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:24:32 PM

Quote from: itod on November 07, 2014, 02:17:58 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

That's 455 BTC. How many BTC has been "inadvertently locked" and is selling now?

You own us the figure on BTER, then the propper callculation can be known how many total BTC has been sold. Why are you hiding these figures? They should be most transparent figures in ITO.

I am not with holding anything - I was waiting for exact #'s to be confirmed

BTER - 112.008634 BTC
CoinGW - 1,820,142.00 Tokens Sold [on first day] of 2000000
Polo - it is a mix of NHZ/BTC about 90btc worth total
Trex - TBD but I believe the # is at 282btc worth currently

if anybody has a question that they feel is not getting answered in a timely manner - Please PM me

Dan

Regarding CoinGateway we have a figure quoted several times in the tables above of 1,392,748.27 (557 BTC) instead of 1,820,142.00. Which figure is correct? Is the difference "inadvertently locked" funds?

There's also the difference with reported figure from Poloniex, it was said 38 BTC sold, you said 90 NHZ/BTC combined. It's hard to believe NHZ sold for 52 BTC in this ITO. Both Poloniex, BTER or Blocnet developers haven't released a single press release with report what exactly happened, it's long overdue because ITO ended long time ago on both BTER and Poloniex. This is not a way to be transparent to the community, and just raises more questions.

CoinGateway will need to answer that part of question and/or I will need to get that from them as there was manual transactions done.

As for Polo, over 32Million NHZ were exchanged [you can check the balance] and polo didn't say 38btc sold [they said 38btc total sold but not all of it was from the ITO fund], it was lower, like 23.4Btc

**Edit**

[2:54:02 PM] Jay CoinGateway: But right now we cant calculate that, you sent us 2Million tokens, and we sold a total of 1823928.80034 Tokens

atcsecure

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Quote from: UrsaMajorisBeta on November 07, 2014, 02:45:40 PM

It's not fair we can't buy block with NHZ at coingateway. This should be fixed asap.

NHZ was never on CoinGateway, it was on polo and it was sold out with in 2hours

itod

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Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:24:32 PM

Quote from: itod on November 07, 2014, 02:17:58 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

That's 455 BTC. How many BTC has been "inadvertently locked" and is selling now?

You own us the figure on BTER, then the propper callculation can be known how many total BTC has been sold. Why are you hiding these figures? They should be most transparent figures in ITO.

I am not with holding anything - I was waiting for exact #'s to be confirmed

BTER - 112.008634 BTC
CoinGW - 1,820,142.00 Tokens Sold [on first day] of 2000000
Polo - it is a mix of NHZ/BTC about 90btc worth total
Trex - TBD but I believe the # is at 282btc worth currently

if anybody has a question that they feel is not getting answered in a timely manner - Please PM me

Dan

Regarding CoinGateway we have a figure quoted several times in the tables above of 1,392,748.27 (348 BTC) instead of 1,820,142.00. Which figure is correct? Is the difference "inadvertently locked" funds?

There's also the difference with reported figure from Poloniex, it was said 38 BTC sold, you said 90 NHZ/BTC combined. It's hard to believe NHZ sold for 52 BTC in this ITO. Both Poloniex, BTER or Blocknet developers haven't released a single press release with report what exactly happened, it's long overdue because ITO ended long time ago on both BTER and Poloniex. This is not a way to be transparent to the community, and just raises more questions.

GCab

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Quote from: bbr on November 07, 2014, 02:33:13 PM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: bbr on November 07, 2014, 02:20:31 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):

http://s23.postimg.org/kodvhut6z/Untitled.jpg

And without these transactions which were stuck at the start and processed manually too

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Addresses_of_Blocknet_Assets

I have also been through those wallet balances and compared them to the amount sold on coingateway:

Apex (APEX): AeBeaFvNbYPLKmUnZZyxoqSGzFL6uh9AUA
Balance: 325,608.09364232
Exchanged: 351,119.739
Difference: -25,511.64535768 APEX

BitSwift (SWIFT): bYMstRCJ7YCUqhm5A5Q9wvyNRYyL1RugSd
Balance: 191,963.70558638
Exchanged: 182,615.1011
Difference: +9,348.60448638 SWIFT

Fibre (FIBRE): FQ8KQJio7ncdMDKYDaBH4eV1bQaWP1ufAF
Balance: 26,262.23414526
Exchanged: 22,581.9797
Difference: +3,680.25444526 FIBRE

LibrexCoin (LXC): DSJZAgkYxsFoU7UdUtLxHVddg5NVvctCe7
Balance: 68,918.36344923
Exchanged: 48,484.9313
Difference: +20,433.43214923 LXC

StealthCoin (XST): SLcP3vckWKkZYdUuYw46b9vAXvWZ3xvsM9
Balance: 1,244,874.457323
Exchanged: 1,604,616
Difference: -359,741.542677 XST

UtilityCoin (UTIL): UaiwbBREPphtqNB832gVpLy4B5AFwwuBFX
Balance: 60,417.15863445
Exchanged: 55,974.39
Difference: +4,442.76863445 UTIL

XCurrency (XC): XXVTS3279gzC5kagTCrEe4x5R7urnm6h2b
Balance: 340,473.460578
Exchanged: 294,647.2546
Difference: +45,826.205978 XC

Sonic (SSD): (Still on exchange due to wallet sync issue)
Balance: ?
Exchanged: 960,198.4854

There's obviously been some staking on those wallets but some of those differences are quite large.

The orders that were processed manually because of technical problems are not shown in the orders history at coingateway.net.
That makes the difference.
I know that because I checked after one of my orders was processed manually.

UrsaMajorisBeta

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We are the ones we've been waiting for

It's not fair we can't buy block with NHZ at coingateway. This should be fixed asap.

GCab

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Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:26:30 PM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:14:50 PM

Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:11:47 PM

Quote from: Poly#Crypto on November 07, 2014, 01:34:23 PM

Quote from: policymaker on November 07, 2014, 01:21:54 PM

to buy with bitcoin or alts?

You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad

and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

On Bittrex there seems to be some available for 0.00025001 and there is still some trading activity so if you put up an order for 3 BTC @ 0.00025001 it will probably get filled in a few hours.
However you will be able to withdraw your Blocks only in 2 days from now.

atcsecure

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Quote from: bbr on November 07, 2014, 02:33:13 PM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: bbr on November 07, 2014, 02:20:31 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):

And without these transactions which were stuck at the start and processed manually too

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Addresses_of_Blocknet_Assets

I have also been through those wallet balances and compared them to the amount sold on coingateway:

Apex (APEX): AeBeaFvNbYPLKmUnZZyxoqSGzFL6uh9AUA
Balance: 325,608.09364232
Exchanged: 351,119.739
Difference: -25,511.64535768 APEX

BitSwift (SWIFT): bYMstRCJ7YCUqhm5A5Q9wvyNRYyL1RugSd
Balance: 191,963.70558638
Exchanged: 182,615.1011
Difference: +9,348.60448638 SWIFT

Fibre (FIBRE): FQ8KQJio7ncdMDKYDaBH4eV1bQaWP1ufAF
Balance: 26,262.23414526
Exchanged: 22,581.9797
Difference: +3,680.25444526 FIBRE

LibrexCoin (LXC): DSJZAgkYxsFoU7UdUtLxHVddg5NVvctCe7
Balance: 68,918.36344923
Exchanged: 48,484.9313
Difference: +20,433.43214923 LXC

StealthCoin (XST): SLcP3vckWKkZYdUuYw46b9vAXvWZ3xvsM9
Balance: 1,244,874.457323
Exchanged: 1,604,616
Difference: -359,741.542677 XST

UtilityCoin (UTIL): UaiwbBREPphtqNB832gVpLy4B5AFwwuBFX
Balance: 60,417.15863445
Exchanged: 55,974.39
Difference: +4,442.76863445 UTIL

XCurrency (XC): XXVTS3279gzC5kagTCrEe4x5R7urnm6h2b
Balance: 340,473.460578
Exchanged: 294,647.2546
Difference: +45,826.205978 XC

Sonic (SSD): (Still on exchange due to wallet sync issue)
Balance: ?
Exchanged: 960,198.4854

There's obviously been some staking on those wallets but some of those differences are quite large.

The balances in the wallet are what was sent from coingateway on day #1, so CoinGW has additional coins waiting to be sent.

bbr

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Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:24:28 PM

Quote from: bbr on November 07, 2014, 02:20:31 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):

And without these transactions which were stuck at the start and processed manually too

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Addresses_of_Blocknet_Assets

I have also been through those wallet balances and compared them to the amount sold on coingateway:

Apex (APEX): AeBeaFvNbYPLKmUnZZyxoqSGzFL6uh9AUA
Balance: 325,608.09364232
Exchanged: 351,119.739
Difference: -25,511.64535768 APEX

BitSwift (SWIFT): bYMstRCJ7YCUqhm5A5Q9wvyNRYyL1RugSd
Balance: 191,963.70558638
Exchanged: 182,615.1011
Difference: +9,348.60448638 SWIFT

Fibre (FIBRE): FQ8KQJio7ncdMDKYDaBH4eV1bQaWP1ufAF
Balance: 26,262.23414526
Exchanged: 22,581.9797
Difference: +3,680.25444526 FIBRE

LibrexCoin (LXC): DSJZAgkYxsFoU7UdUtLxHVddg5NVvctCe7
Balance: 68,918.36344923
Exchanged: 48,484.9313
Difference: +20,433.43214923 LXC

StealthCoin (XST): SLcP3vckWKkZYdUuYw46b9vAXvWZ3xvsM9
Balance: 1,244,874.457323
Exchanged: 1,604,616
Difference: -359,741.542677 XST

UtilityCoin (UTIL): UaiwbBREPphtqNB832gVpLy4B5AFwwuBFX
Balance: 60,417.15863445
Exchanged: 55,974.39
Difference: +4,442.76863445 UTIL

XCurrency (XC): XXVTS3279gzC5kagTCrEe4x5R7urnm6h2b
Balance: 340,473.460578
Exchanged: 294,647.2546
Difference: +45,826.205978 XC

Sonic (SSD): (Still on exchange due to wallet sync issue)
Balance: ?
Exchanged: 960,198.4854

There's obviously been some staking on those wallets but some of those differences are quite large.

mxxxxxx

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Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:26:30 PM

Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:14:50 PM

Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:11:47 PM

Quote from: Poly#Crypto on November 07, 2014, 01:34:23 PM

Quote from: policymaker on November 07, 2014, 01:21:54 PM

to buy with bitcoin or alts?

You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad

and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

Then there is a wall on Bittrex waiting for you 0.00025001 12828.35499136 3.2072

BitcoiNaked

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Quote from: mxxxxxx on November 07, 2014, 02:14:50 PM

Quote from: BitcoiNaked on November 07, 2014, 02:11:47 PM

Quote from: Poly#Crypto on November 07, 2014, 01:34:23 PM

Quote from: policymaker on November 07, 2014, 01:21:54 PM

to buy with bitcoin or alts?

You can buy with the participating Coins.
https://coingateway.net

I want to buy, but i only have BTC Sad

and participating coins don't have enough liquidity to buy

Try on Poloniex and Bter , some are still selling below the ITO price

I tried poloniex, no luck. Want to buy 3 BTC worth of it, no way it will get me filled, even a small portion doesn't work, someone else puts an order above me aswell

synechist

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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market

I've been working on documentation today and things are taking shape for the Foundation.

The Blocknet Wiki is getting going.

Website: http://theblocknet.com

Documents:

Accountability: structured escrow of funds

ITO Rules

Budget and development plan

Lastly you can expect a new OP pretty soon.

atcsecure

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Quote from: itod on November 07, 2014, 02:17:58 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

That's 455 BTC. How many BTC has been "inadvertently locked" and is selling now?

You own us the figure on BTER, then the propper callculation can be known how many total BTC has been sold. Why are you hiding these figures? They should be most transparent figures in ITO.

I am not with holding anything - I was waiting for exact #'s to be confirmed

BTER - 112.008634 BTC
CoinGW - 1,820,142.00 Tokens Sold [on first day] of 2000000
Polo - it is a mix of NHZ/BTC about 90btc worth total
Trex - TBD but I believe the # is at 282btc worth currently

if anybody has a question that they feel is not getting answered in a timely manner - Please PM me

Dan

mxxxxxx

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Quote from: bbr on November 07, 2014, 02:20:31 PM

Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):

And without these transactions which were stuck at the start and processed manually too

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Addresses_of_Blocknet_Assets

bbr

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Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

I have copied their transaction history for BLOCK and put into Excel. Here's the stats as of 1 hour ago (without the 10%):

LD2164

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Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:09:54 PM

Quote from: LD2164 on November 07, 2014, 02:06:19 PM

This is actually exactly what I wanted to suggest. Seeing as Bittrex allows refund for 48h, the ito hasn't actually ended, and therefore we should still be allowed to buy.

Seeing as it is all about "fairness".

Open the buys and see if this ito fails or succeeds!

Bittrex did what they felt was needed based on outside events which were out of their control and ITO Terms. So they did the right thing by their customers.

I could now write a book about a multi-exchange ITO process, mostly including what NOT to do.

At this stage, everybody has an option to either exit or stay involved - so in the end it all works out.

basically what it boils down to is you have people who buy to hold and people who buy to trade. what this refund does is allow all those (I'd say above 50%) who buy to trade, to trade with 0% risk. The 10% messed it up even further. People have a hard time not selling there trexx bag back to trex and scooping up Polo's stuff... I'm not saying it's your guys fault, or theirs, but I do think that Bittrex could stop pretending to understand how to make life fair, and in so doing stop allow more trading loopholes..

Keep up the good work though. Even if we all go broke, what you produce could outlive us all.

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my SQC coin profits will be headed in here

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Quote from: atcsecure on November 07, 2014, 02:11:56 PM

Last time I checked CoinGateway had sold 1,820,142.00 tokens, but I will get updated #'s

That's 455 BTC. How many BTC has been "inadvertently locked" and is selling now?

You own us the figure on BTER, then the propper callculation can be known how many total BTC has been sold. Why are you hiding these figures? They should be most transparent figures in ITO.

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