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Topic: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED - page 20. (Read 68776 times)

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Right now as we speak a prepared dev is making a coin and putting thought into implementing a proper fork for the community. . Better planning and community outreach would have spoke volumes. I am almost certain you are in this for a quick buck and could care less about the message and the technology. As people we imporve and innovate everything we produce, this shows neither.

There is no premine and there are linux and win64 binaries on release...

Those were pretty much already available. Innovation would have been beating the creators of Bytecoin to the OSX binary release, this alone would have attracted a pretty big base. This is among many other things would have really helped this along
legendary
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Crypto distribution is absurdly bad (most, even big ones like LTC, have ~50% of coins held in the top 100 wallets).
And yet, LTC is the most successful alt by far...
Because BTC distribution is even worse.

No, that doesn't explain it. If other cryptos have a "better" distribution than LTC, and this matters, they would be beating LTC. They are not.

legendary
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Right now as we speak a prepared dev is making a coin and putting thought into implementing a proper fork for the community. . Better planning and community outreach would have spoke volumes. I am almost certain you are in this for a quick buck and could care less about the message and the technology. As people we imporve and innovate everything we produce, this shows neither.

There is no premine and there are linux and win64 binaries on release...
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Right now as we speak a prepared dev is making a coin and putting thought into implementing a proper fork for the community. . Better planning and community outreach would have spoke volumes. I am almost certain you are in this for a quick buck and could care less about the message and the technology. As people we imporve and innovate everything we produce, this shows neither.
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Then go to Groestl, which draws even less power than X11, is CPU+GPU too and better yet reduces the advantage of GPU over CPU.
You are wrong. When mining x11 with fx8320 i got ~460khs and with 270x 1.28mhs, that is just around 2.7 times difference. Sure you can get 290x and do 2.5mhs, but than is just 5.4 times the difference, but you can also have better cpu like i7 4770, fx8350 etc. Mining groestl it is bigger difference between cpu and gpu.
Thank for correcting me. And about the energy footprint, is X11 less energy-hungry than Groestl?
I don't know exactly, but difference is just few percent not something to worry about. Groestl, x11, twe are low power consumption algos. Maybe twecoin consumes less than groestl and x11, but as I said differences among those algos are just 1-3 % . Sha-3 is far more energy hungry.
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I keep getting connect failed errors.

Yeah I'm having a ton of them, probably 99/100 attempts. Anyone else have this? I've also found some blocks but they do not seem to be reflected in my wallet leading me to believe they are being orphaned.
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Monero Core Team
Then go to Groestl, which draws even less power than X11, is CPU+GPU too and better yet reduces the advantage of GPU over CPU.
You are wrong. When mining x11 with fx8320 i got ~460khs and with 270x 1.28mhs, that is just around 2.7 times difference. Sure you can get 290x and do 2.5mhs, but than is just 5.4 times the difference, but you can also have better cpu like i7 4770, fx8350 etc. Mining groestl it is bigger difference between cpu and gpu.
Thank for correcting me. And about the energy footprint, is X11 less energy-hungry than Groestl?
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Here is the failed connection error output from the print_cn command.
Note: windows build


Remote Host                       Peer id                     Recv/Sent (inactive,sec) State                    Livetime(seconds)  
[OUT]86.132.66.110:18080 a44ff43925dced34    1791(11)/1667(11)        state_normal             103                
[OUT]199.188.178.180:1808043d27bfe627efebd    1695(12)/1667(12)        state_normal             105                
[OUT]54.186.177.19:18080 9043f05c54f36351    1551(7)/1667(7)          state_normal             105                
[OUT]201.27.91.124:18080 87d7655a20e4f64f    1695(31)/1667(31)        state_normal             102                
[OUT]148.251.2.141:18080 ee0026af35985fc1    1716(36)/1002(36)        state_normal             50                  
[OUT]143.239.71.93:18080 52b68d5c5fa8a7a5    1743(13)/1667(13)        state_normal             106                
[OUT]144.76.158.69:18080 eaa86739c841f11e    1668(39)/1002(39)        state_normal             73                  
[OUT]50.187.147.123:18080e58b2e417aeff13     1572(39)/1002(39)        state_normal             105                
[OUT]178.64.122.77:18080 8c9e6eeb66e9b86c    1263(19)/1667(19)        state_normal             104            
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"blocks recieved" is just the new blocks in the blockchain since your last refresh.  My question though, 3 blocks found... Balance 52, unlocked balance 35, why different? I haven't done a save, haven't locked it... and its been a while so its not waiting for confirmation.

The +#define CRYPTONOTE_MINED_MONEY_UNLOCK_WINDOW            60 change in the github indicates that it requires 60 minutes for your coins to be unlocked. In BCN this is 10. I'm not sure if these values refer to minutes though.

60 blocks unlock delay. This is much safer.
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You have eyes but can see Mt. Tai?!
I can't even download windows binaries. "Temporary error, retrying." again and again.  That's pretty bad few hours after launch.
Can you upload this to somewhere else?

EDIT: Work's now!
legendary
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Forget-about-it
thx mars, so after 60 min they become locked each time? not sure if thats the case because its been over an hour an the other 17 hasnt locked.. could be an orphan? currently shows balance 70, unlocked 52 now...  Guess I should peer into the code.
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Monero Core Team
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Crypto distribution is absurdly bad (most, even big ones like LTC, have ~50% of coins held in the top 100 wallets).
And yet, LTC is the most successful alt by far...
Because BTC distribution is even worse.
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Activity: 543
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Then go to Groestl, which draws even less power than X11, is CPU+GPU too and better yet reduces the advantage of GPU over CPU.

You are wrong. When mining x11 with fx8320 i got ~460khs and with 270x 1.28mhs, that is just around 2.7 times difference. Sure you can get 290x and do 2.5mhs, but than is just 5.4 times the difference, but you can also have better cpu like i7 4770, fx8350 etc. Mining groestl it is bigger difference between cpu and gpu.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1008
Forget-about-it
"blocks recieved" is just the new blocks in the blockchain since your last refresh.  My question though, 3 blocks found... Balance 52, unlocked balance 35, why different? I haven't done a save, haven't locked it... and its been a while so its not waiting for confirmation.
hero member
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Monero Core Team
Is there a rationale for sticking with the CryptoNite hashing algo? Some issues I pointed out before: 1) the CPU mining phase is prone to botnets 2) Someone will inevitably develop a GPU miner and it's in their interest not to release it, creating a fairness problem.  (I'd personally prefer X11, because it's CPU+GPU and draws much less power than scrypt.)
Then go to Groestl, which draws even less power than X11, is CPU+GPU too and better yet reduces the advantage of GPU over CPU.

I personally am explicity against a CPU+GPU algo. Because this means CPU have no reason to mine anymore (except for increasing a little the mining power of a GPU miner). GPU mining means "more money for the richs, less money for the rest of us". Not exactly in the direction of fairness.

Plus, CryptoNote goes beyond a lot of the shortcoming of the bitcoin protocol. CryptoNote uses CryptoNight algo only. Maybe it could be possible to implement X11 on CryptoNote as a replacement for CryptNight, but as stated above, I am against this.

That being said, your point regarding botnets is interesting. I suppose the reason why there is not much botnets on GPU is that server do not come with a real GPU to start with.

edit: I actually can't find anything on this algo. Is this even a sound hashing function with a low probability of being cracked in the future? Most of the algos that the crypto community has been using are well-established and created by professionals and researchers (like the NIST finalists).
Did you check for the Cryptonote or Cryptonight? The first is the technology, the second is the algo.
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Mega download link is not working? It just says "temporary error".

Mirror added in the IRC channel. I think this is the link:  https://anonfiles.com/file/557536bff04c9dbb85d290233850873b

Thanks!
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Mega download link is not working? It just says "temporary error".
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So it looks like there willbe a total supply of ~18.5m, block reward is ~17 and we are currently at block 271.

Total coins willbe a factor 1000 of bytecoin and it has a flatter reward schedule. So after all it's not as bad as we thought it was!!

thankfull_for_today, can you add the channel #bitmonero on freenode in the OP?

done
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I have problems compiling this on Arch Linux:

/usr/bin/ld: /tmp/cch0N3UR.ltrans3.ltrans.o: undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_mutexattr_settype@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
/usr/lib/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Can someone help?
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hi,
first time for solomining, and i have a noob question
is it ok if in bitmonerod said block successfully added and have block reward around 17,6 coins, but when i check in my wallet is still zero?


You might have gotten an orphan. Do both balances say zero?

hi,
yes.... and i type in my wallet "start mining" (not use simpleminer)

Did you type "start mining" or "start_mining x" where x is the # of cores you'd like to use of your CPU?

Also, in your bitmonerod.log file do you have any lines that say something like this:

"2014-Apr-18 10:36:39.702998 [miner 5]Found block for difficulty: 55042"

Before you open the log file, type "save" into the bitmonero daemon.



ahh.... thank you sir for your advice, i think i've made a mistake for not include "_"
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