Topic: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax - page 190. (Read 343726 times)
November 14, 2017, 01:12:15 PM
yes, i think adjust the halving period is better than halcing block reward, i suggest 6 months or 1 year.
November 14, 2017, 01:10:57 PM
Me too, I am agree with this halving in the block reward. I think this halving could do the coin more strong.
November 14, 2017, 01:09:21 PM
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Please add BitcoinZ (BTCZ) to your exchange. It is 100% community, explosive growth, and a coin for all.
Description
The BitcoinZ community holistically requests BTCZ be added to your exchange.
Are you the Developer or represent the Coin team?
Yes
Coin Name
BitcoinZ
Enhanced Verified Account
dosoper
Description of Coin
BitcoinZ project was launched on September 9th with the vision of complete decentralization and a coin for all. It launched with no premine, no ICO, no developer taxes, at Block 1, and no bounties. The BitcoinZ community has built presence in the cryptocurrnecy ecosystem one day at a time and contributors from all over the world have stepped in to volunteer their time or receive very little donation from the community for their work. The community and its decentralized approach has triggered explosive growth. BitcoinZ is present on nine (9) social media platforms all managed by different core community members.
We have wallets for every platform: Core Node, Windows, Linux, macOS, Android, and iOS is on Testflight. Together the community has grown to over 70,000+ members in about 60 days. Further development is on-going and anyone can join in the process, as long as compliance with the Code of Conduct and Community Acceptance process is adhered to.
Coin Trading Symbol
BTCZ
Coin Launch Date
September 9th, 2017.
Coin Website URL
https://bitcoinz.global
Github URL
https://github.com/bitcoinz-pod/bitcoinz
https://github.com/anthony19114
Did you raise money/bitcoin to launch your coin?
No.
Do you have a pre-mine?
No.
Max money supply for your coin?
21,000,000,000 (21 billion)
Exchanges you are currently on
https://c-cex.com/?p=btcz-btc
https://trade.cryptobroker.io/markets/btczbtc
https://www.tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=BTCZ_BTC
Official Blockchain Explorer
https://btczexplorer.blockhub.info
What is your TxFee for a transaction?
0.0001
Social Media Details
Site: https://bitcoinz.global
BitcoinZ Forum - https://connect.bitcoinz.global/
Discord - https://discordapp.com/invite/u3dkbFs
Facebook PGE - https://www.facebook.com/BitcoinZCommunity/
Facebook GRP - https://www.facebook.com/groups/bitcoinz.community/
Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/BTCZCommunity/
Slack - http://slack.bitcoinz.site/
Telegram - https://t.me/joinchat/CDzlaRGMvBm4P2Z76sNclQ
Twitter - https://twitter.com/BTCZCommunity
WhatsApp - https://chat.whatsapp.com/LV2frpF0LfPIBEICGRvoWe
Attachments
Please attach the Community Paper document and then click 'Submit' https://bitcoinz.global/media/Community_Paper_Final.pdf
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Please add BitcoinZ (BTCZ) to your exchange. It is 100% community, explosive growth, and a coin for all.
Description
The BitcoinZ community holistically requests BTCZ be added to your exchange.
Are you the Developer or represent the Coin team?
Yes
Coin Name
BitcoinZ
Enhanced Verified Account
dosoper
Description of Coin
BitcoinZ project was launched on September 9th with the vision of complete decentralization and a coin for all. It launched with no premine, no ICO, no developer taxes, at Block 1, and no bounties. The BitcoinZ community has built presence in the cryptocurrnecy ecosystem one day at a time and contributors from all over the world have stepped in to volunteer their time or receive very little donation from the community for their work. The community and its decentralized approach has triggered explosive growth. BitcoinZ is present on nine (9) social media platforms all managed by different core community members.
We have wallets for every platform: Core Node, Windows, Linux, macOS, Android, and iOS is on Testflight. Together the community has grown to over 70,000+ members in about 60 days. Further development is on-going and anyone can join in the process, as long as compliance with the Code of Conduct and Community Acceptance process is adhered to.
Coin Trading Symbol
BTCZ
Coin Launch Date
September 9th, 2017.
Coin Website URL
https://bitcoinz.global
Github URL
https://github.com/bitcoinz-pod/bitcoinz
https://github.com/anthony19114
Did you raise money/bitcoin to launch your coin?
No.
Do you have a pre-mine?
No.
Max money supply for your coin?
21,000,000,000 (21 billion)
Exchanges you are currently on
https://c-cex.com/?p=btcz-btc
https://trade.cryptobroker.io/markets/btczbtc
https://www.tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=BTCZ_BTC
Official Blockchain Explorer
https://btczexplorer.blockhub.info
What is your TxFee for a transaction?
0.0001
Social Media Details
Site: https://bitcoinz.global
BitcoinZ Forum - https://connect.bitcoinz.global/
Discord - https://discordapp.com/invite/u3dkbFs
Facebook PGE - https://www.facebook.com/BitcoinZCommunity/
Facebook GRP - https://www.facebook.com/groups/bitcoinz.community/
Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/BTCZCommunity/
Slack - http://slack.bitcoinz.site/
Telegram - https://t.me/joinchat/CDzlaRGMvBm4P2Z76sNclQ
Twitter - https://twitter.com/BTCZCommunity
WhatsApp - https://chat.whatsapp.com/LV2frpF0LfPIBEICGRvoWe
Attachments
Please attach the Community Paper document and then click 'Submit' https://bitcoinz.global/media/Community_Paper_Final.pdf
DONE! Let's do this!
November 14, 2017, 01:07:28 PM
Reading some of the replies to block halving here and in defence of miners who have a heavy bag they are the ones who stop the price crashing by holding,these miners have a lot invested in BitcoinZ and will be effected same as anyone by reducing block rewards,but with less supply price will rise so no one looses out but I do think we need to lower coin supply with block rewards halving and nothing should be done without full support from community,this needs to be decided by a vote from us not a group chat on slack,I am in favour of changes been made but it’s important to have community supporting this change.
November 14, 2017, 01:04:42 PM
There's nothing wrong about changing block reward as long as it's a change that makes sense. Dogecoin started with a random block reward like Luckycoin, which code was used for the coin, and then changed it to 250,000 fixed and continued its reward halving schedule. Dogecoin supply was meant to be capped but they discovered a bug in the code that would make it not be capped. Then IIRC Jackson Palmer though it was a good idea to keep it uncapped and there was no problem about that. Coins can have many problems (wolong, moolah). Block reward changing is not one of them.
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this halving of the block reward is a great way to improve a coin
November 14, 2017, 12:53:59 PM
it's nonsense to intervene unless there is a technical problem. This money is starting to go out of purpose.
November 14, 2017, 11:13:26 AM
There's nothing wrong about changing block reward as long as it's a change that makes sense. Dogecoin started with a random block reward like Luckycoin, which code was used for the coin, and then changed it to 250,000 fixed and continued its reward halving schedule. Dogecoin supply was meant to be capped but they discovered a bug in the code that would make it not be capped. Then IIRC Jackson Palmer though it was a good idea to keep it uncapped and there was no problem about that. Coins can have many problems (wolong, moolah). Block reward changing is not one of them.
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November 14, 2017, 10:59:03 AM
Today, BitcoinZ price has stayed around 70 satoshi. Personally, it's good chance for buying and holding the coin at the current low price. It has huge potential for long-term investment. There are lots of miners mining the coin, hence there are lots of opportunites for pumps in the future. Happy mining!
November 14, 2017, 10:33:56 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy 
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
You don't need to explain that BTCZ is not premine, it's known. In your example you forgot one thing about BTC - it never changed halving period and that way affecting rate of supply, and thats why everyone had equal chances. I just wanted to tell btcz community that artificial change of supply can be seen badly in other comunities, potentional future investors and especially market exchanges. It could be considered "refined premine".
There was no equal chance for all. I did not have a computer at that time. I could not get bitcoin. I just did not know about him. For me, bitcoin is the first in its industry of digital money but not the standard. Bitcoin developers did not provide scalability of the network. The awarding of the award for the block was taken for some of their criteria conditionally for 4 years, but who said that it is true? The markets and the industry are too volatile. On the contrary, it is attractive for me as an investor that we can fast react by consensus and make positive adjustments to the digital asset - btsz. Only dynamic models are viable, we do not have to turn our coins into a stone statue. Now the market requires a reduction in supply. And we must take action. After all, one of the goals btcz is to increase the cost and turn into a payment instrument.
We'll leave BTC disqusion, and continue just on BTCZ ...
First, it is not market requiring change of supply. Most voices for that change come from HODL-ers which expected fast price surge and fast profits. But yes, there deffinitely needs to be change of supply, this model of supply planed by btcz developers is not sustainable. It's just theirs oversight (or is it?) of values while planing coin.
Second, artificial change of btcz supply like proposed in this thread will convert BTCZ into scam coin. By that model you'll have part of same coins worth more and other part of coins worth less - on same market. Only thing which could be changed without significantly affecting value of mined btcz on market and unmined btcz is period of halving. Instead of 4 years, that could be easily changed to 1 year, 6 months, something like "Camel" distribution (see Sumo coin supply), or something else. Just that way would be fair for everyone.
If that is happening than it is scam coin
By your example, you want to say that my fresh mined 1 BTCZ is worth yours 0,5 yesterday mined BTCZ's 
Only controled supply or supply by calculable criteria allows that every published unit of one currency have the same value ... I recommend reading this link - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply
We should be careful about all this. Halving fast, by vote, for me sounds like scam ( and I understand very well the term "refined premiere" ... it really seems something like that ). Why? Because halving 10x will certainly bring a price up pressure, and all current holders might benefit of that. Something completely different would be : Vote for reducing the halving time from 4 yrs to 6 months. This way, we are giving more predictability to BTCz, and markets need that as well (to gain trust). I know both options result in the same: Halving. But the second one would mean a change which is going to be kept from now on, with predictability in time. We can not go through halving by vote like it is being proposed by dev. It really sound like scam that way. It sounds like there is no predictability for this coin. It sounds like the coin will be subject to crazy turns every time someone rises an "urgent voting issue" . Lets be patient. Price is no plunging killing us. We are stable at 70sat. Now we should spread the word about BTCz. Halving for December?
Please... lets be patient, and think about what this means for our future image. Lets be solid with the idea of "no place for scam here" November 14, 2017, 10:21:52 AM
Halving block reward just serve the early miners and holders (probably devs) to make money fast. Some short term profit can be seen but is non organic and will ruin the coin's future.
November 14, 2017, 10:20:59 AM
zk SNARKS.. didn't this coin need a parameter generation ceremony?
https://z.cash/technology/paramgen.html
https://z.cash/technology/paramgen.html
yeah I would like to know this too
it inherited the params from the zcash ceremony.
I supposed that. Thank you!
November 14, 2017, 10:16:17 AM
Hello everyone! We launched the site in Russian (https://btcz.tech/), we will gradually fill it with information. Also launched the node
There are all preconditions that the coin will continue to grow!
There are all preconditions that the coin will continue to grow!
Site is done great - fast, clean, simple and informative! Congrats!
November 14, 2017, 10:01:00 AM
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Maybe you misunderstood me. Maybe I misunderstood you.
In the article on this link there is nothing new for me. Nominally, many coins fit the definition: "Only controled supply or supply by calculable criteria allows that every published unit of one currency have the same value". But we can have different cost of electricity and consumed energy of video cards, which we extract, which allows for example you to extract for the same production capacity the different numbers of coins. Correspondingly for you the cost of the extracted coin will be less than for me.
We understood each other that both of us agree something has to be done
Lets just do that properly, following BTCZ white paper, section III, "Proposals Systems / Voting". November 14, 2017, 09:57:34 AM
Hello everyone! We launched the site in Russian (https://btcz.tech/), we will gradually fill it with information. Also launched the node
There are all preconditions that the coin will continue to grow!
Great site! Thank you There are all preconditions that the coin will continue to grow!
November 14, 2017, 09:55:11 AM
Quote
snap
Maybe you misunderstood me. Maybe I misunderstood you.
In the article on this link there is nothing new for me. Nominally, many coins fit the definition: "Only controled supply or supply by calculable criteria allows that every published unit of one currency have the same value". But we can have different cost of electricity and consumed energy of video cards, which we extract, which allows for example you to extract for the same production capacity the different numbers of coins. Correspondingly for you the cost of the extracted coin will be less than for me.
We understood each other that both of us agree something has to be done
Lets just do that properly, following BTCZ white paper, section III, "Proposals Systems / Voting". November 14, 2017, 09:53:42 AM
Let me give you such a comparison. We work at the factory on the same positions and receive the same salary in the shares of the plant. Next week, we are reduced by the salary (but the shares rose in price). And the fact, for example, that I work earlier than you and, accordingly, I have accumulated more shares does not mean that the factory or I are scammers.
November 14, 2017, 09:37:44 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
You don't need to explain that BTCZ is not premine, it's known. In your example you forgot one thing about BTC - it never changed halving period and that way affecting rate of supply, and thats why everyone had equal chances. I just wanted to tell btcz community that artificial change of supply can be seen badly in other comunities, potentional future investors and especially market exchanges. It could be considered "refined premine".
There was no equal chance for all. I did not have a computer at that time. I could not get bitcoin. I just did not know about him. For me, bitcoin is the first in its industry of digital money but not the standard. Bitcoin developers did not provide scalability of the network. The awarding of the award for the block was taken for some of their criteria conditionally for 4 years, but who said that it is true? The markets and the industry are too volatile. On the contrary, it is attractive for me as an investor that we can fast react by consensus and make positive adjustments to the digital asset - btsz. Only dynamic models are viable, we do not have to turn our coins into a stone statue. Now the market requires a reduction in supply. And we must take action. After all, one of the goals btcz is to increase the cost and turn into a payment instrument.
We'll leave BTC disqusion, and continue just on BTCZ ...
First, it is not market requiring change of supply. Most voices for that change come from HODL-ers which expected fast price surge and fast profits. But yes, there deffinitely needs to be change of supply, this model of supply planed by btcz developers is not sustainable. It's just theirs oversight (or is it?) of values while planing coin.
Second, artificial change of btcz supply like proposed in this thread will convert BTCZ into scam coin. By that model you'll have part of same coins worth more and other part of coins worth less - on same market. Only thing which could be changed without significantly affecting value of mined btcz on market and unmined btcz is period of halving. Instead of 4 years, that could be easily changed to 1 year, 6 months, something like "Camel" distribution (see Sumo coin supply), or something else. Just that way would be fair for everyone.
If that is happening than it is scam coin
By your example, you want to say that my fresh mined 1 BTCZ is worth yours 0,5 yesterday mined BTCZ's Only controled supply or supply by calculable criteria allows that every published unit of one currency have the same value ... I recommend reading this link - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply
Maybe you misunderstood me. Maybe I misunderstood you.
In the article on this link there is nothing new for me. Nominally, many coins fit the definition: "Only controled supply or supply by calculable criteria allows that every published unit of one currency have the same value". But we can have different cost of electricity and consumed energy of video cards, which we extract, which allows for example you to extract for the same production capacity the different numbers of coins. Correspondingly for you the cost of the extracted coin will be less than for me.
November 14, 2017, 09:28:21 AM
IOS WALLET? 
It is possible to TestFlight the iOS wallet sending an email to [email protected] for the invite link.
November 14, 2017, 09:24:18 AM
IOS WALLET?
November 14, 2017, 09:10:48 AM
I recommend reading the section III. of BTCZ white paper.
Do you mean "Proposal Systems / Voting" ??
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