Topic: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax - page 191. (Read 343724 times)
November 14, 2017, 08:52:51 AM
I recommend reading the section III. of BTCZ white paper.
November 14, 2017, 08:24:23 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy 
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
You don't need to explain that BTCZ is not premine, it's known. In your example you forgot one thing about BTC - it never changed halving period and that way affecting rate of supply, and thats why everyone had equal chances. I just wanted to tell btcz community that artificial change of supply can be seen badly in other comunities, potentional future investors and especially market exchanges. It could be considered "refined premine".
There was no equal chance for all. I did not have a computer at that time. I could not get bitcoin. I just did not know about him. For me, bitcoin is the first in its industry of digital money but not the standard. Bitcoin developers did not provide scalability of the network. The awarding of the award for the block was taken for some of their criteria conditionally for 4 years, but who said that it is true? The markets and the industry are too volatile. On the contrary, it is attractive for me as an investor that we can fast react by consensus and make positive adjustments to the digital asset - btsz. Only dynamic models are viable, we do not have to turn our coins into a stone statue. Now the market requires a reduction in supply. And we must take action. After all, one of the goals btcz is to increase the cost and turn into a payment instrument.
We'll leave BTC disqusion, and continue just on BTCZ ...
First, it is not market requiring change of supply. Most voices for that change come from HODL-ers which expected fast price surge and fast profits. But yes, there deffinitely needs to be change of supply, this model of supply planed by btcz developers is not sustainable. It's just theirs oversight (or is it?) of values while planing coin.
Second, artificial change of btcz supply like proposed in this thread will convert BTCZ into scam coin. By that model you'll have part of same coins worth more and other part of coins worth less - on same market. Only thing which could be changed without significantly affecting value of mined btcz on market and unmined btcz is period of halving. Instead of 4 years, that could be easily changed to 1 year, 6 months, something like "Camel" distribution (see Sumo coin supply), or something else. Just that way would be fair for everyone.
If that is happening than it is scam coin
By your example, you want to say that my fresh mined 1 BTCZ is worth yours 0,5 yesterday mined BTCZ's 
Only controled supply or supply by calculable criteria allows that every published unit of one currency have the same value ... I recommend reading this link - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply
November 14, 2017, 08:18:23 AM
Hello. What has the community decided about the reduction of remuneration? will it? and how will this affect the value of the coin? Thank you
November 14, 2017, 07:54:22 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
You don't need to explain that BTCZ is not premine, it's known. In your example you forgot one thing about BTC - it never changed halving period and that way affecting rate of supply, and thats why everyone had equal chances. I just wanted to tell btcz community that artificial change of supply can be seen badly in other comunities, potentional future investors and especially market exchanges. It could be considered "refined premine".
There was no equal chance for all. I did not have a computer at that time. I could not get bitcoin. I just did not know about him. For me, bitcoin is the first in its industry of digital money but not the standard. Bitcoin developers did not provide scalability of the network. The awarding of the award for the block was taken for some of their criteria conditionally for 4 years, but who said that it is true? The markets and the industry are too volatile. On the contrary, it is attractive for me as an investor that we can fast react by consensus and make positive adjustments to the digital asset - btsz. Only dynamic models are viable, we do not have to turn our coins into a stone statue. Now the market requires a reduction in supply. And we must take action. After all, one of the goals btcz is to increase the cost and turn into a payment instrument.
We'll leave BTC disqusion, and continue just on BTCZ ...
First, it is not market requiring change of supply. Most voices for that change come from HODL-ers which expected fast price surge and fast profits. But yes, there deffinitely needs to be change of supply, this model of supply planed by btcz developers is not sustainable. It's just theirs oversight (or is it?) of values while planing coin.
Second, artificial change of btcz supply like proposed in this thread will convert BTCZ into scam coin. By that model you'll have part of same coins worth more and other part of coins worth less - on same market. Only thing which could be changed without significantly affecting value of mined btcz on market and unmined btcz is period of halving. Instead of 4 years, that could be easily changed to 1 year, 6 months, something like "Camel" distribution (see Sumo coin supply), or something else. Just that way would be fair for everyone.
November 14, 2017, 07:40:59 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
You don't need to explain that BTCZ is not premine, it's known. In your example you forgot one thing about BTC - it never changed halving period and that way affecting rate of supply, and thats why everyone had equal chances. I just wanted to tell btcz community that artificial change of supply can be seen badly in other comunities, potentional future investors and especially market exchanges. It could be considered "refined premine".
There was no equal chance for all. I did not have a computer at that time. I could not get bitcoin. I just did not know about him. For me, bitcoin is the first in its industry of digital money but not the standard. Bitcoin developers did not provide scalability of the network. The awarding of the award for the block was taken for some of their criteria conditionally for 4 years, but who said that it is true? The markets and the industry are too volatile. On the contrary, it is attractive for me as an investor that we can fast react by consensus and make positive adjustments to the digital asset - btsz. Only dynamic models are viable, we do not have to turn our coins into a stone statue. Now the market requires a reduction in supply. And we must take action. After all, one of the goals btcz is to increase the cost and turn into a payment instrument.
We'll leave BTC disqusion, and continue just on BTCZ ...
First, it is not market requiring change of supply. Most voices for that change come from HODL-ers which expected fast price surge and fast profits. But yes, there deffinitely needs to be change of supply, this model of supply planed by btcz developers is not sustainable. It's just theirs oversight (or is it?) of values while planing coin.
Second, artificial change of btcz supply like proposed in this thread will convert BTCZ into scam coin. By that model you'll have part of same coins worth more and other part of coins worth less - on same market. Only thing which could be changed without significantly affecting value of mined btcz on market and unmined btcz is period of halving. Instead of 4 years, that could be easily changed to 1 year, 6 months, something like "Camel" distribution (see Sumo coin supply), or something else. Just that way would be fair for everyone.
November 14, 2017, 07:30:55 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
Finally a voice of reason. If you decrease reward now, it'll look like a scam. Halving is necessarily but after a year of mining or later.
November 14, 2017, 07:28:28 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
Finally a voice of reason. If you decrease reward now, it'll look like a scam. Halving is necessarily but after a year of mining or later.
Regarding "millionares": It's not to late, you can still be among the happy few.
November 14, 2017, 07:15:00 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
You don't need to explain that BTCZ is not premine, it's known. In your example you forgot one thing about BTC - it never changed halving period and that way affecting rate of supply, and thats why everyone had equal chances. I just wanted to tell btcz community that artificial change of supply can be seen badly in other comunities, potentional future investors and especially market exchanges. It could be considered "refined premine".
Many thanks for your statement. Thumbs up!
November 14, 2017, 07:03:53 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
You don't need to explain that BTCZ is not premine, it's known. In your example you forgot one thing about BTC - it never changed halving period and that way affecting rate of supply, and thats why everyone had equal chances. I just wanted to tell btcz community that artificial change of supply can be seen badly in other comunities, potentional future investors and especially market exchanges. It could be considered "refined premine".
There was no equal chance for all. I did not have a computer at that time. I could not get bitcoin. I just did not know about him. For me, bitcoin is the first in its industry of digital money but not the standard. Bitcoin developers did not provide scalability of the network. The awarding of the award for the block was taken for some of their criteria conditionally for 4 years, but who said that it is true? The markets and the industry are too volatile. On the contrary, it is attractive for me as an investor that we can fast react by consensus and make positive adjustments to the digital asset - btsz. Only dynamic models are viable, we do not have to turn our coins into a stone statue. Now the market requires a reduction in supply. And we must take action. After all, one of the goals btcz is to increase the cost and turn into a payment instrument.
November 14, 2017, 06:56:11 AM
Hey guys made a video covering the basics of What is BitcoinZ, a bit on mining profits, and quick fix links to the BTCZ GUI Swing Wallet
If you like the video please consider donating to fund more videos!
BTCZ Address - t1SeynUhHkc1xTeSYpupNsNJmiB6JM8i9Ks
https://youtu.be/uXikYzel8hc
If you like the video please consider donating to fund more videos!
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https://youtu.be/uXikYzel8hc
Your video presents a really strong case for BTCZ. Many thanks for your support!
Very good video, content like this that must be reproduced again, so that the future will be more interesting and introduce it uniquely and interesting.
November 14, 2017, 06:52:21 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
Finally a voice of reason. If you decrease reward now, it'll look like a scam. Halving is necessarily but after a year of mining or later.
November 14, 2017, 06:27:30 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
You don't need to explain that BTCZ is not premine, it's known. In your example you forgot one thing about BTC - it never changed halving period and that way affecting rate of supply, and thats why everyone had equal chances. I just wanted to tell btcz community that artificial change of supply can be seen badly in other comunities, potentional future investors and especially market exchanges. It could be considered "refined premine".
November 14, 2017, 06:10:56 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
November 14, 2017, 05:19:12 AM
DONE!!!!
Request submitted in Bittrex!!!
Request submitted in Bittrex!!!
November 14, 2017, 05:17:20 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action.But what about those people who mined milions of btcz and hold? Will they also be subject of inflation? Or some people will suddenly became "milionares"?
We have to think about this, because this sudden lowering of block rewards for 10x!! after just 3 months instead of halving after 4 years (as declared) can be seen as - "refined premine". And I don't support that. And generaly, I think BTCZ should stay as-is and those who don't like it, well, thay can always fork into new coin
November 14, 2017, 05:15:35 AM
Whenever possible try Bittrex they will launch a coin if it fits their policy .
Bittrex is FREE btw !
Bittrex is the ultimate goal of all altcoins. They does not charge fees to list as other exchanges but the requirement for the coin is very high. BitcoinZ need more new things. Bittrex is FREE btw !
November 14, 2017, 05:08:39 AM
Dear Gents,
Maybe any of you can help/support me , I did a transference for 1,52 ETH to my ETH Wallet in https://www.cryptobroker.io/ (which i suspect is SCAM) , the coins were transfered there , see the movement here.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x20b7a23bae9bee36e4b096db400d48f63445b666
However the balance in https://www.cryptobroker.io/ remains 0 after 10 days , so Im affraid i lost the money .
Any of you know If I can do anything to recover / send money back to my original Wallet ? (As I have not acces to this exchange wallet address)
thanks in advance .
Maybe any of you can help/support me , I did a transference for 1,52 ETH to my ETH Wallet in https://www.cryptobroker.io/ (which i suspect is SCAM) , the coins were transfered there , see the movement here.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x20b7a23bae9bee36e4b096db400d48f63445b666
However the balance in https://www.cryptobroker.io/ remains 0 after 10 days , so Im affraid i lost the money .
Any of you know If I can do anything to recover / send money back to my original Wallet ? (As I have not acces to this exchange wallet address)
thanks in advance .
November 14, 2017, 05:08:29 AM
Whenever possible try Bittrex they will launch a coin if it fits their policy .
Bittrex is FREE btw !
Bittrex is FREE btw !
Quote from: hellomoto;n35
Exchange Submitted ->
edit by cryptorex
Submit link https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=114093958872
Please choose your issue below
Submit Coin to Bittrex for Listing Consideration
Subject
Please add BitcoinZ (BTCZ) to your exchange. It is 100% community, explosive growth, and a coin for all.
Description
The BitcoinZ community holistically requests BTCZ be added to your exchange.
Are you the Developer or represent the Coin team?
Yes
Coin Name
BitcoinZ
Enhanced Verified Account
dosoper
Description of Coin
BitcoinZ project was launched on September 9th with the vision of complete decentralization and a coin for all. It launched with no premine, no ICO, no developer taxes, at Block 1, and no bounties. The BitcoinZ community has built presence in the cryptocurrnecy ecosystem one day at a time and contributors from all over the world have stepped in to volunteer their time or receive very little donation from the community for their work. The community and its decentralized approach has triggered explosive growth. BitcoinZ is present on nine (9) social media platforms all managed by different core community members.
We have wallets for every platform: Core Node, Windows, Linux, macOS, Android, and iOS is on Testflight. Together the community has grown to over 70,000+ members in about 60 days. Further development is on-going and anyone can join in the process, as long as compliance with the Code of Conduct and Community Acceptance process is adhered to.
Coin Trading Symbol
BTCZ
Coin Launch Date
September 9th, 2017.
Coin Website URL
https://bitcoinz.global
Github URL
https://github.com/bitcoinz-pod/bitcoinz
https://github.com/anthony19114
Did you raise money/bitcoin to launch your coin?
No.
Do you have a pre-mine?
No.
Max money supply for your coin?
21,000,000,000 (21 billion)
Exchanges you are currently on
https://c-cex.com/?p=btcz-btc
https://trade.cryptobroker.io/markets/btczbtc
https://www.tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=BTCZ_BTC
Official Blockchain Explorer
https://btczexplorer.blockhub.info
What is your TxFee for a transaction?
0.0001
Social Media Details
Site: https://bitcoinz.global
BitcoinZ Forum - https://connect.bitcoinz.global/
Discord - https://discordapp.com/invite/u3dkbFs
Facebook PGE - https://www.facebook.com/BitcoinZCommunity/
Facebook GRP - https://www.facebook.com/groups/bitcoinz.community/
Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/BTCZCommunity/
Slack - http://slack.bitcoinz.site/
Telegram - https://t.me/joinchat/CDzlaRGMvBm4P2Z76sNclQ
Twitter - https://twitter.com/BTCZCommunity
WhatsApp - https://chat.whatsapp.com/LV2frpF0LfPIBEICGRvoWe
Attachments
Please attach the Community Paper document and then click 'Submit' https://bitcoinz.global/media/Community_Paper_Final.pdf
edit by cryptorex
Submit link https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=114093958872
Please choose your issue below
Submit Coin to Bittrex for Listing Consideration
Subject
Please add BitcoinZ (BTCZ) to your exchange. It is 100% community, explosive growth, and a coin for all.
Description
The BitcoinZ community holistically requests BTCZ be added to your exchange.
Are you the Developer or represent the Coin team?
Yes
Coin Name
BitcoinZ
Enhanced Verified Account
dosoper
Description of Coin
BitcoinZ project was launched on September 9th with the vision of complete decentralization and a coin for all. It launched with no premine, no ICO, no developer taxes, at Block 1, and no bounties. The BitcoinZ community has built presence in the cryptocurrnecy ecosystem one day at a time and contributors from all over the world have stepped in to volunteer their time or receive very little donation from the community for their work. The community and its decentralized approach has triggered explosive growth. BitcoinZ is present on nine (9) social media platforms all managed by different core community members.
We have wallets for every platform: Core Node, Windows, Linux, macOS, Android, and iOS is on Testflight. Together the community has grown to over 70,000+ members in about 60 days. Further development is on-going and anyone can join in the process, as long as compliance with the Code of Conduct and Community Acceptance process is adhered to.
Coin Trading Symbol
BTCZ
Coin Launch Date
September 9th, 2017.
Coin Website URL
https://bitcoinz.global
Github URL
https://github.com/bitcoinz-pod/bitcoinz
https://github.com/anthony19114
Did you raise money/bitcoin to launch your coin?
No.
Do you have a pre-mine?
No.
Max money supply for your coin?
21,000,000,000 (21 billion)
Exchanges you are currently on
https://c-cex.com/?p=btcz-btc
https://trade.cryptobroker.io/markets/btczbtc
https://www.tradesatoshi.com/Exchange?market=BTCZ_BTC
Official Blockchain Explorer
https://btczexplorer.blockhub.info
What is your TxFee for a transaction?
0.0001
Social Media Details
Site: https://bitcoinz.global
BitcoinZ Forum - https://connect.bitcoinz.global/
Discord - https://discordapp.com/invite/u3dkbFs
Facebook PGE - https://www.facebook.com/BitcoinZCommunity/
Facebook GRP - https://www.facebook.com/groups/bitcoinz.community/
Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/BTCZCommunity/
Slack - http://slack.bitcoinz.site/
Telegram - https://t.me/joinchat/CDzlaRGMvBm4P2Z76sNclQ
Twitter - https://twitter.com/BTCZCommunity
WhatsApp - https://chat.whatsapp.com/LV2frpF0LfPIBEICGRvoWe
Attachments
Please attach the Community Paper document and then click 'Submit' https://bitcoinz.global/media/Community_Paper_Final.pdf
PLEASE SUBMIT
November 14, 2017, 04:44:54 AM
You want artificially to lower supply after some people mined milions of btcz (and that way rise price)? Slim shaddy
First of all, bitcoin was created as a means of payment, and all money is subject to inflation. Reducing the speed of issuance of new coins is a involuntary measure. I, as a simple member of the community, support this action. November 14, 2017, 04:21:38 AM
CAUTION WITH www.cryptobroker.io!!
More than 1 week waiting a deposit in https://www.cryptobroker.io/ , no answer to my tickets since then , I advise all do not trade in this site.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x20b7a23bae9bee36e4b096db400d48f63445b666
NOBODY ANSWER , I REGRET TO HAVE LOST 1,52 ETH IN THIS EXCHANGE WEB
https://www.cryptobroker.io/ ITS NOT SECURE SITE FOR BITCZ
More than 1 week waiting a deposit in https://www.cryptobroker.io/ , no answer to my tickets since then , I advise all do not trade in this site.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x20b7a23bae9bee36e4b096db400d48f63445b666
NOBODY ANSWER , I REGRET TO HAVE LOST 1,52 ETH IN THIS EXCHANGE WEB
https://www.cryptobroker.io/ ITS NOT SECURE SITE FOR BITCZ
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