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08:52:16 Thread "N:\plots\" done in 25.8 sec (25.4 MB/s)
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Alle USB 3.0 and 3 USB 2.0 drives (slowst)
Core I7-4790k, but i think the cpu is not the bottleneck :-)
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My speeds:

4-core i5-2500k 3.3 GHz
2x3TB SATA Seagate + 4TB USB 3.0 Seagate


2-core Pentium E5200 2.5 GHz
4x1 TB WDs in 2 threads.


Post yours.
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The new blago miner crashes w/ a HEAP error about every 24-36hrs for me.... =(
Previous release did not have this issue.
anyone else?
yes, same.  and the new exe behaves differently, calling from a bat file is completely weird now.  it opens 2 windows/consoles now whereas before everything ran in one cmd window

use http://winaero.com/download.php?view.38
with your .bat file.
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nice! thanks!
for some reason this version seems to be a few seconds slower than prior one. i wonder if it's just my imagination
"Winner" waiting for a response from the server within a maximum of three seconds, if the server returns a response immediately, no delay will not be...
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When I try to run this, it says OpenCl.dll is missing...what do I need to install to get it to run?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxyu2hbe9rlfomv/OpenCL.dll?dl=0
put it in miner's folder

(OpenCL.dll need for future)
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The new blago miner crashes w/ a HEAP error about every 24-36hrs for me.... =(
Previous release did not have this issue.
anyone else?

SAme to me , Im just waiting to the next update...

Update Burst-miner 1.150319   https://www.dropbox.com/s/jx9h6vlh84qug4d/miner-burst-1.150319.zip?dl=0

* fixed crashes (often at blocks #xxx00 - #xxx01)
* added info - processing speed of threads (debug mode)



When I try to run this, it says OpenCl.dll is missing...what do I need to install to get it to run?
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I'm not real
The new blago miner crashes w/ a HEAP error about every 24-36hrs for me.... =(
Previous release did not have this issue.
anyone else?

SAme to me , Im just waiting to the next update...

Update Burst-miner 1.150319   https://www.dropbox.com/s/jx9h6vlh84qug4d/miner-burst-1.150319.zip?dl=0

* fixed crashes (often at blocks #xxx00 - #xxx01)
* added info - processing speed of threads (debug mode)


nice! thanks!
for some reason this version seems to be a few seconds slower than prior one. i wonder if it's just my imagination
sr. member
Activity: 416
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The new blago miner crashes w/ a HEAP error about every 24-36hrs for me.... =(
Previous release did not have this issue.
anyone else?

SAme to me , Im just waiting to the next update...

Update Burst-miner 1.150319   https://www.dropbox.com/s/jx9h6vlh84qug4d/miner-burst-1.150319.zip?dl=0

* fixed crashes (often at blocks #xxx00 - #xxx01)
* added info - processing speed of threads (debug mode)

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Activity: 248
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I'm not real
The new blago miner crashes w/ a HEAP error about every 24-36hrs for me.... =(
Previous release did not have this issue.
anyone else?
yes, same.  and the new exe behaves differently, calling from a bat file is completely weird now.  it opens 2 windows/consoles now whereas before everything ran in one cmd window
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The new blago miner crashes w/ a HEAP error about every 24-36hrs for me.... =(
Previous release did not have this issue.
anyone else?

SAme to me , Im just waiting to the next update...
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The new blago miner crashes w/ a HEAP error about every 24-36hrs for me.... =(
Previous release did not have this issue.
anyone else?
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https://crowetic.com | https://qortal.org
-[http://burst.ninja pool announcement]-
-Cryptoglance support added (I have not tried this yet myself, but cat says it's cool, and I trust him.) We are the first and only BURST pool to support cryptoglance! http://cryptoglance.info/

We're going to enhance the burst.ninja pool support on cryptoglance Smiley Update coming soon from us...

Awesome, Thank you!

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-[http://burst.ninja pool announcement]-
-Cryptoglance support added (I have not tried this yet myself, but cat says it's cool, and I trust him.) We are the first and only BURST pool to support cryptoglance! http://cryptoglance.info/

We're going to enhance the burst.ninja pool support on cryptoglance Smiley Update coming soon from us...
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I don't know if someone read my message above, but I would still appreciate help on this mining error message:

connect function failed with error: 10060

Thank you
show config.
{
   "Mode" : "poolV2",
   "Server" : "178.62.39.204",
   "Port": 8121,
   "UpdaterAddr" : "178.62.39.204",
   "UpdaterPort": 8121,
   "InfoAddr" : "178.62.39.204",
   "InfoPort": 8125,
   "EnableProxy": true,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,
   "Paths":["C:\\ZZZ Burstcoin Mining\\plots\\"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,
   "ShowMsg" : false,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,
   "UseSorting" : false,
   "Debug": false,
   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "TargetDeadline": 600000,
   "UseFastRcv" : false,
   "SendInterval": 200,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000,
   "UseLog" : true,
   "UseCleanMem" : true,
   "ShowWinner" : true,
   "SkipBadPlots" : true
}

http://178.62.39.204:8125   not responds  (@Burstcoin: can you open port for wallet API?)
set
   "InfoAddr" : "burst.ninja",
   "InfoPort": 8125,

remove "TargetDeadline": 600000
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I don't know if someone read my message above, but I would still appreciate help on this mining error message:

connect function failed with error: 10060

Thank you
show config.

{
   "Mode" : "poolV2",

   "Server" : "178.62.39.204",
   "Port": 8121,

   "UpdaterAddr" : "178.62.39.204",
   "UpdaterPort": 8121,

   "InfoAddr" : "178.62.39.204",
   "InfoPort": 8125,

   "EnableProxy": true,
   "ProxyPort": 8126,

   "Paths":["C:\\ZZZ Burstcoin Mining\\plots\\"],
   "CacheSize" : 200000,

   "ShowMsg" : false,
   "ShowUpdates" : false,

   "UseSorting" : false,
   "Debug": false,

   "SendBestOnly": false,
   "TargetDeadline": 600000,

   "UseFastRcv" : false,
   "SendInterval": 200,
   "UpdateInterval": 2000,

   "UseLog" : true,
   "UseCleanMem" : true,
   "ShowWinner" : true,
   "SkipBadPlots" : true

}
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https://crowetic.com | https://qortal.org
-[http://burst.ninja pool announcement]-


-Stability updates pushed, been running strong.

-Fixes for lag issues pushed, been running strong. (let us know if you have any issue at all!)

-Cryptoglance support added (I have not tried this yet myself, but cat says it's cool, and I trust him.) We are the first and only BURST pool to support cryptoglance! http://cryptoglance.info/

-Reward distribution enhanced. Method of changing it easily implemented (our goal is to make it the most perfect reward distribution system)

Currently the payouts are based 60% off the left pie (current round, block finder gets most, then distribution down the ladder you can see.) and 40% from right pie (historical miner pie, the larger miners that contribute more, get a more steady larger payout, then distribution down the ladder you can see.

-UI updates coming soon! (I may show a preview if I won't get yelled at for it. *glances at tiga*)


Thank you!
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I don't know if someone read my message above, but I would still appreciate help on this mining error message:

connect function failed with error: 10060

Thank you

i think i read in the past, that in blago miner you have to set usefastrcv false.
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I don't know if someone read my message above, but I would still appreciate help on this mining error message:

connect function failed with error: 10060

Thank you
show config.


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Would you mind removing this post? Based on bad numbers and I went back and rewrote it(version you have posted above it) 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/which-is-the-most-environmentally-friendly-energy-efficient-altcoin-982957

OK, did it - and quoted some of the following posts here, if you don't mind...

Appreciate it Hubus!


13 X is nothing to write home about.  13000x would be!  130x would be somewhat interesting. it's not groundbreaking technology.  this comparison isn't that useful, POC has other aspects over POW that are more interesting.
13x means that POW will get better w.r.t. energy usage as ASIC chips get smaller.  POW won't because there's no control over HDD.  SSD will give it another leap since they use less energy over spinners.  but again, when ssd completely replaced spinners POW chips will be much smaller and more energy efficient anyway.
POC vs POW in terms of energy usage is not a "winning" comparison.

Yeah but Bitcoin ASICs are approaching the same limit that CPUs and GPUs are at and won't keep quickly getting more energy efficient or do more calculations per dollar spent on them.

Meanwhile memristors and holographic storage is coming out soon.. and lots of different potential technologies coming in the future.  Granted ferroelectric transistors also have some potential for CPUs and some other technologies there too.





Proof of Capacity energy usage compared to Proof of Work

Assume you go with the above assumption that you connect 50  hard drives to the computer, and each hard drive costs $100 each.  That means $5000 worth of hard drives which uses 800 W.  Now let's pick a random Bitcoin miner.  The TerraMiner IV which to err on Bitcoin's side, let's say it costs $1,000 USD (I can find it on Amazon for $750 - http://www.amazon.com/CoinTerra-Terraminer-Iv/dp/B00JK64DXA but the original price was $1,200) and uses 2.1kW .

So $5000 worth of bitcoin miners = $5000 / $1,000 = 5 machines. 
5 machines equals 5* 2.1KW worth of energy = 10.5 kW.

So POW uses 10.5 kW of electricity for an equivalent investment POC uses .8 kW of electricity.


10.5/0.8 KW = 13.13 times

Which means that POW uses 13.13 more energy than POC.



Went through and edited the numbers, better?

I've got some problems with the numbers, and a bigger problem with something thats been totally overlooked.

The assumption that the "average" PC uses 300W has been raised earlier, so I'll skip that - but you have "That means $5000 worth of hard drives which uses 800 W." That indicates a 16W load per drive 24*7. Looking at the specs of the drives I'm using - WD Reds - the spec sheet says 2.5 to 3.3W Idle, 3.3 - 4.5 active. Lets be generous and say that on average given the bursty nature of Burst - 4W average 24 * 7, so the assumed rate is 4x high. So actual PoW/PoC is more like 52 than 13.

The bigger issue I have is that you've only looked at cost of running the two competitors - but what about the income difference ?

Assuming those 50 HDD's are 3TB drives, we have (based on current difficulty and price)
Burst:
Income: 150TB = 28,613 Burst/Day = $12.44 /day
Cost: 0.2KW/H * 24 H * $0.12 KWH = $0.58 /day
Profit/loss:$11.86 / day

Bitcoin: Assumes 1.6TH from the Terraminer IV (Based on current difficulty / price - and BTC difficulty is increasing faster than Burst)
Income: $3.11 / TH * 8 TH = $24.88 / day
Cost: 5 * 2.1 KW/h * 24H * 0.12 KWH = $30.24
Profit/Loss: ($5.36) / day

So in PoW, with this particular miner, your ROI is .... Never. You're digging yourself deeper into a hole as soon as you turn it on. With PoC you ROI is "someday" depending on the capacity of the drives, but as long as its at least 150GB/drive - you make a profit and an ROI.

H.

Excellent points!

I think that we are talking about BTC (6 years ols) and BURST (some months old) like if they are the same. 6 year ago, you can qet a block (50BTC)/day with a computer and you dont get almost any profit (remember the pizza for 10,000BTC (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pizza-for-bitcoins-137)). That´s a pizza (40$) for more that the total daily reward (7200BTC). Nowadays, the total reward is 2,518,880 BURST/day, that is about 1,000$.

So, we all are talking of differents things. BTC was a fairy distribution on early ages, like BUSRT, but as soon as it achieve value it become less fairy.

Let´s hope that BURST ditribution will become unfairy, because that will be good for BURST.
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I don't know if someone read my message above, but I would still appreciate help on this mining error message:

connect function failed with error: 10060

Thank you
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