[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 185.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 10, 2016, 05:19:53 AM

Quote from: clf99 on January 10, 2016, 05:09:40 AM

i would submit that this exchange alone is one part of an answer to the fellow who thinks clams are worthless.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that guy actually believes what he is saying. He's making an amateur attempt at price manipulation, that's all.

Probably correct.

The value of any currency is ultimately philosophical really, even gold coins. Just because you can touch them doesn't necessarily make them valuable. The fact that you can hammer them into a bracelet and give it to a girl and get laid gives gold a value that clams might not have, but when was the last time you heard of someone doing that?

The question of 'how are clams superior to other currencies?' is in part answered by - easy to stake either on JD (no backups required) or on your own box (must do backups), lendable on polo, easy to trade in a liquid market, easy to gamble with in various places.

This superiority is perhaps why the value in dollar terms might be justified. It is still philosophical. But so is the dollar.

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Quote from: rocoro on January 10, 2016, 08:21:33 AM

Is there some way with the linux daemon to tell the date / timestamp of the last stake that occurred?

I have over 1.5k split up in small amounts and seems like almost over a week since my last stake.. is that normal?
(Used to seem like almost every day or every other day it would stake)

I don't know of a simple way, but this works for me:

Code:

$ clamd listtransactions '*' 10 | grep -A10 -E '"category" : "(immature|generate)"' | grep -E '"(category|time)"' | awk '{print $3}' | tr -d ',"' | while read category; do read time; echo "$(date -d @$time) : $category"; done

Change the 10 in the 4th word to a higher number if you have a lot of non-staking transactions since the most recent stake.

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Is there some way with the linux daemon to tell the date / timestamp of the last stake that occurred?

I have over 1.5k split up in small amounts and seems like almost over a week since my last stake.. is that normal?
(Used to seem like almost every day or every other day it would stake)

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Quote from: clf99 on January 10, 2016, 05:09:40 AM

i would submit that this exchange alone is one part of an answer to the fellow who thinks clams are worthless.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that guy actually believes what he is saying. He's making an amateur attempt at price manipulation, that's all.

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Quote from: Brob12321 on January 10, 2016, 01:35:57 AM

Quote from: clf99 on January 10, 2016, 12:13:50 AM

Quote from: Brob12321 on January 09, 2016, 09:07:48 PM

I usually stake Bitbean, Digicube, Clam, Diamond, Tek(it takes very long), Hypserstake. If you looking for stakes everyday Digicube has a 2000% interest rate and is currently valued at about 8 cents. Clams are likely to outlive any of those coins I mentioned though.

Awesome. Thanks. So you've investigated this. I hereby dub you an expert. And you are saying, that clams are the best thing to stake.
That is your opinion, right? Those other coins are not heavily traded anywhere or super active, right? So in the POS world, clam wins.

right?

Yes I've done some research and have had personal experience with all of them. The other coins besides Clam do not have much volume so they really aren't great if you're looking to do a "real" investment because it would alter the market by a huge amount if you buy or sell. Clam is good I would stake it on just-dice though to get you're percentage every couple minutes instead of staking it by yourself and getting a stake every few days. It just feels like you're making more money when it comes in faster lol.

thank you very much for your insights.

i would submit that this exchange alone is one part of an answer to the fellow who thinks clams are worthless.
Clams are the best coin for staking. And that in itself is a differentiator in the market that has value.

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Quote from: bugsywugsy on January 10, 2016, 04:38:19 AM

Quote from: dooglus on January 10, 2016, 04:27:09 AM

Quote from: bugsywugsy on January 10, 2016, 02:45:50 AM

Its valid, but there is no private key when I issue that command

It's the 'ismine' field you're looking at. If it's false, you didn't import the private key for that address.

Use 'importprivkey YOURPRIVKEY' in the debug console to import it.

It's true.

Then a -rescan should fix it.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 10, 2016, 04:27:09 AM

Quote from: bugsywugsy on January 10, 2016, 02:45:50 AM

Its valid, but there is no private key when I issue that command

It's the 'ismine' field you're looking at. If it's false, you didn't import the private key for that address.

Use 'importprivkey YOURPRIVKEY' in the debug console to import it.

It's true.

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Quote from: bugsywugsy on January 10, 2016, 02:45:50 AM

Its valid, but there is no private key when I issue that command

It's the 'ismine' field you're looking at. If it's false, you didn't import the private key for that address.

Use 'importprivkey YOURPRIVKEY' in the debug console to import it.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 10, 2016, 02:13:02 AM

Quote from: bugsywugsy on January 10, 2016, 01:27:34 AM

yes it appears in the block explorer, 3.3k confirmations. just not in the wallet.

OK. Check that you have the private key in your wallet, by going to the debug console and running:

validateaddress xYOURADDRESS

where xYOURADDRESS is your CLAM address.

If so, then you just need to rescan the blockchain, by running the client with the -rescan parameter.

clam-qt -rescan

Its valid, but there is no private key when I issue that command

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Quote from: bugsywugsy on January 10, 2016, 01:27:34 AM

yes it appears in the block explorer, 3.3k confirmations. just not in the wallet.

OK. Check that you have the private key in your wallet, by going to the debug console and running:

validateaddress xYOURADDRESS

where xYOURADDRESS is your CLAM address.

If so, then you just need to rescan the blockchain, by running the client with the -rescan parameter.

clam-qt -rescan

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Quote from: clf99 on January 10, 2016, 12:13:50 AM

Quote from: Brob12321 on January 09, 2016, 09:07:48 PM

I usually stake Bitbean, Digicube, Clam, Diamond, Tek(it takes very long), Hypserstake. If you looking for stakes everyday Digicube has a 2000% interest rate and is currently valued at about 8 cents. Clams are likely to outlive any of those coins I mentioned though.

Awesome. Thanks. So you've investigated this. I hereby dub you an expert. And you are saying, that clams are the best thing to stake.
That is your opinion, right? Those other coins are not heavily traded anywhere or super active, right? So in the POS world, clam wins.

right?

Yes I've done some research and have had personal experience with all of them. The other coins besides Clam do not have much volume so they really aren't great if you're looking to do a "real" investment because it would alter the market by a huge amount if you buy or sell. Clam is good I would stake it on just-dice though to get you're percentage every couple minutes instead of staking it by yourself and getting a stake every few days. It just feels like you're making more money when it comes in faster lol.

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Quote from: dooglus on January 10, 2016, 12:08:33 AM

Quote from: bugsywugsy on January 09, 2016, 09:31:12 PM

So I have my wallet built on Linux, and getinfo retrieves current info but I sent some clam to the address a few days ago and it's still at 0.00 balance. what could be wrong, what are my next steps?

Do you have the transaction ID?

Does the transaction show up on the block explorers? Check on khashier.com for instance.

yes it appears in the block explorer, 3.3k confirmations. just not in the wallet.

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Quote from: Brob12321 on January 09, 2016, 09:07:48 PM

I usually stake Bitbean, Digicube, Clam, Diamond, Tek(it takes very long), Hypserstake. If you looking for stakes everyday Digicube has a 2000% interest rate and is currently valued at about 8 cents. Clams are likely to outlive any of those coins I mentioned though.

Awesome. Thanks. So you've investigated this. I hereby dub you an expert. And you are saying, that clams are the best thing to stake.
That is your opinion, right? Those other coins are not heavily traded anywhere or super active, right? So in the POS world, clam wins.

right?

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Quote from: bugsywugsy on January 09, 2016, 09:31:12 PM

So I have my wallet built on Linux, and getinfo retrieves current info but I sent some clam to the address a few days ago and it's still at 0.00 balance. what could be wrong, what are my next steps?

Do you have the transaction ID?

Does the transaction show up on the block explorers? Check on khashier.com for instance.

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So I have my wallet built on Linux, and getinfo retrieves current info but I sent some clam to the address a few days ago and it's still at 0.00 balance. what could be wrong, what are my next steps?

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Quote from: clf99 on January 09, 2016, 06:59:28 PM

Quote from: dooglus on January 09, 2016, 02:01:34 PM

Quote from: Brob12321 on January 09, 2016, 01:40:57 PM

Quote from: clf99 on January 09, 2016, 11:43:54 AM

right, but... which ones stake as easily as clams?

Your question does not really make any sense, any coin that has POS will stake as "easily" as Clams do.

Right, it isn't clear what he means by "easy".

Maybe he's saying:

1) CLAM is easy to stake because it has the highest inflation rate of any PoS coin.

* If so, that seems very unlikely. CLAM's stake rate isn't especially high. I'm sure you can find higher.

2) It is easy to stake CLAM because you just put some coins in your wallet and they stake automatically.

* But that's the same for (almost?) all PoS coins. Nothing different about CLAM in that respect.

3) It is easy to stake CLAM because you don't have to download and sync the client; all you need to do is invest your coins at Just-Dice and they will stake for you, and you will get paid every 3 minutes instead of having to wait for days.

* I guess, but then you're not really staking them, you're having someone else stake them for you. The reward paid every 3 minutes is the effect of everyone's CLAMs working in a giant staking pool.

Ok, jesus. i'm looking for a list of coins. I can't find a current list of POS coins that aren't dead. So I'm asking you guys if you have
any favorites. People keep answering me without mentioning any specific coin.

What is the list of coins that are currently alive (they are used somewhere and have at least one living developer working on the code),
that are POS coins,
with a reasonable client that wont suck your machine dry,
that have a chance at a future (which clams do I think.)

E.g. Someone mentioned opal coins, but they seem totally dead.

Does anyone anywhere maintain a list of viable crytpos? E.g. 'cryptos on POLO that are POS' or 'cryptos on coinmarketcap that are POS'

I'm probably stupid and can't find the list. That's why I'm asking u smart guys. So I won't stay stupid.

I usually stake Bitbean, Digicube, Clam, Diamond, Tek(it takes very long), Hypserstake. If you looking for stakes everyday Digicube has a 2000% interest rate and is currently valued at about 8 cents. Clams are likely to outlive any of those coins I mentioned though.

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Quote from: Ron~Popeil on January 09, 2016, 04:25:43 PM

Quote from: VultureFund on January 09, 2016, 03:24:09 PM

Uhhh ladies look at that 200 BTC buy wall Shocked

Sure thing BUY BUY BUY you'll be rich Clams to da moon babe!!?¿? Kiss

So that buy wall is yours? Prove it. Let's see a screen shot of your buy orders from poloniex.

It's not hard to fake a screenshot:

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Quote from: dooglus on January 07, 2016, 11:00:17 PM

Quote from: P-Funk on January 07, 2016, 07:26:52 PM

Even if the removing staking vote gains a majority of stake support, it's not going to happen.

It seems very unlikely that stakers would vote to remove staking. Or did you mean "removing digging"?

If so, why do you think that?

Yeah slip of the keyboard there. I mean even if more than 50% of staking votes call for dig removal, I still don't think creativecuriosity and xploited would want to remove it.

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Quote from: clf99 on January 09, 2016, 06:59:28 PM

Ok, jesus. i'm looking for a list of coins.

Lux fiat.

https://minkiz.co/coin/active/

Cheers

Graham

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Usually if I want Proof of Steak I go to Ruth's Chris, or maybe Cattlemans. Growing up in Akron a million years ago, the place to go was The Brown Derby. Black Angus is okay, too. Zentner's Daughter in San Angelo used to be a big deal, but that was last century.

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