Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 227. (Read 1151373 times)

What size stacks did you have the 200 split into?

That's what my pools is for. We stake many blocks per day already and you get your fair share of it. Yes your own wallet is ideal but not for everyone. There are more choices than not staking or staking on JD.

I did try to stake on my own. However, I could only stake one block in 2 weeks, with around 200 CLAM. That was why I gave up.

Hoping that the devs can find ways to help smaller holders stake on their own. Otherwise people will just all go JD or leave.

That right there 'proves' I'm not her. Giving away money on a whim? That doesn't sound like me at all!

We can at least say that it appears to have ended for now:



I guessed he had around 517k CLAMs to dig. The chart shows a little less than 500k being dug since he started, so my estimate may have been a hair on the high side:

So.... can we say that the clam digging has "ended"?

Just to say something about SuperClam & Dooglus I was probably the last miner to use the multipool or whatever it was called, SuperClam told me that I was virtually solo mining and as such had little chance of getting

anything for my effort and sent me 50 clams for my support. I gave 10 to charity, 10 to stepson and have traded & staked my way to 250 plus Clams. As things go I can't say a bad word about SuperClam or Dooglus who

have given so much to this project. Dooglus was full of useful tech info well before he relaunched JD. I find it rather distasteful to see peps that have only come on board after the relaunch of JD question there integrity.

You may present whatever conspiracy theory you chose to believe. I for one will give them the benefit of the doubt and say that none of us are perfect and the best laid plans of mice and men.... you know the rest

Jon

curious confessed to being the digger.

I probably missed some part in this fast going thread but the last posts sound like you might be the digger? Or is he still unknown and avoided the community for some reason?

Just teasing.  I know they'll come back.  I just got caught pretty good in the crash.  I thought I was being smart and bought a few hundred at 0.011+ and loaned them out on polo (I was going to tuck them away for staking after I increased my equity--interest rates were at 04.5%!) just before the big dump.  I got them stuck in a loan and all I could do was watch my equity dwindle while they crashed.  I tried supplying buy support on the way down to average out my losses but it just kept crashing....it sucked!  I'm just a little butt hurt....that's all!  

There seems to be a person or two on Poloniex who disagrees.
But, who am I to call into question the value of Pandacoin.

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No.

I expected massive amounts to be claimed and dumped shortly after launch.
So many, in fact, that the transaction fee to "cheat" would be more expensive than purchasing them at market.
Ironic and naive, but I expected a large percentage of the total supply to be claimed very shortly after launch.

In truth, that did happen to an extent; though at a rate much less than expected.
CLAM was quite cheap at AGX.io shortly after launch.

Cheaper than the transaction fee?  Likely not.
But, much cheaper than they are now.

If I could do it again, I would have made a percentage of pre-mine with which we could have issued a host of bounties.
I still despise pre-mine, but not having bounty funds made the beginning of CLAM extremely difficult.

Though, maybe my memory is flawed - the networks who DID take that route are almost all either dead or dying.
So, maybe slow and steady is a better route to take.

Well at least everyone can stop complaining that all CLAMS are on Just-Dice now.  It will be interesting to see if they migrate there over time or if some other uses for them show up.

Good Luck.

Curious???  Any chance his first name is Clement?  The creature who searches the sea for his toys who gets help finding them from an insider.....HHmmm?

http://www.storyjumper.com/book/index/13078592/Clement-the-Curious-Clam#


Very fishy!

This was expected.  Curiosity said he was going to expedite his digging to get it over with, and it looks to be over with now.

WTF Last dig chart!

That is a silly question to ask. Even if a denial is made, if it was done competently, it can't ever be proven. If an honest but lawyerly answer is given about not having "deliberately funded" any addresses, it can't be known whether any of the decisions made about the snapshot were influenced by existing holdings (i.e. you happen to have a large number of outputs so you design a coin where outputs -> wealth). Furthermore anyone who did cheat in this manner probably claimed their coins already or would claim them before any fork (as the current 'whale digger' is now apparently doing).

I've made the point before that the mechanism of the pay-per-output snapshot is incredibly prone to fraud-on-demand and whether or not the fraud actually happened is sort of irrelevant. What's done is done. I just hope that no one ever uses that method again, especially now that even more of the pitfalls are well known. This coin may yet succeed in spite of the original distribution method being weak on verifiable-integrity grounds. I still don't know of any PoS coins with a better distribution method.

re. change

Thanks for the info about the config option! That should be very helpful.

There's too much to reply to in individual posts without spamming the thread, so it's another "monster post" I'm afraid:


I can't be sure, but since they were all dug from the same initial distribution block at the same time it is overwhelmingly likely that they were dug by a single entity. The whale digger was working through the initial distribution blocks in reverse order and was working on block 5763 at that time. So it's overwhelmingly likely that he dug those addresses.


Yes. Just replace the CLAM address version byte with the BTC address version byte.

Specifically, for the addresses I listed:

x9NXaGSzxLHjvBbBdmeE2U8dx43Y4XWhfK = 124tgPcXgcohsoVKHJ1ZbHqriwkJchW2P3
xA9338mMFZW43AoQ6rUKpmopi21kYTtMPq = 12qQ9Fvsyr21znhXkNqfPbX3UuiXAvVmiy
xPWEDmTSwiRYb8EKebWJU8f98hwC3vcoLn = 1GCbKtcyfzwWYk8TJ7se2xNMubdxZuzsaB
xEZKQHEUbTyzxfQTD6RSdcoTgYMy8DwYsy = 17FgWQQ1KkVxvHJarcnnCSWgTS4jpeoayt
xPosuwLaxeRHYz1NGYZwDCs5eJ7gMw9tNy = 1GWF24W7gvwFWbuVv4wGn2aJRBpSusRXrM
xNNwmVoLPsRojqbweaBthv2Qt6A85xSN21 = 1F5Jscxs89wmhTW5J6ZEGjjdeyrtmAkbXK
xXL7bZ5sw9XKMt57A7QGAMXqCbNiywm1W2 = 1Q2UhgFQfS3HKVyEodmbjBF3yV5Vd8QDXE


Not with 100% accuracy. We can use clustering tools like walletexplorer.com to find addresses which are likely in the same wallet as the already-dug addresses.


It's not a secret. Here's the information:


She calls herself creativecuriosity, curiouscreativity and such like. I call her Creative for short. BAC is short for BayAreaCoins. People call me "doog" sometimes. It's short for "dooglus". I hope that clarifies any misunderstandings.


I don't know who or what 42dice is. So yes, probably a coincidence. I also don't know about dash or whatever other distractions you have tried to bring into play. I make posts and send PMs. I don't know what you mean about playing with them or aiming to cause confusion. I use a single account and attempt to be as clear as possible with my communication. You should try it.


Uh, yes! This is public knowledge.

BAC has a campaign to wrest control of the "SuperClams" account from Creative's evil grasp. Or something.


I think he prefers the term NSFL. The L stands for Life.


The blockchain doesn't store the addresses, only the 160 bit RIPE-MD hashes of the public keys. It's effectively the address without the version byte or the checksum. So it is identical for BTC and CLAM.

The initial distribution copied the scripts directly from the BTC blockchain without modification.

So yes, you don't find any BTC addresses in the CLAM blockchain, because you don't find *any* addresses in *any* blockchain. Addresses don't exist on blockchains - they are a mirage presented by client software and block explorers to make things more readable.


Yes:




While I believe you, I think I would prefer it if I didn't.

Given the choice between you and an uninvolved stranger getting rich from this digging, I think I'd prefer it happened to you.

Did you deliberately fund any addresses at all before taking the snapshot? I imagine the temptation to do so would have been pretty strong.


If you are going to break this news to me, please do it at a time when we are not in the third trimester of a parasite invasion. I've been happily living what i thought was the life of a male, and now I find I'm about to experience the horror of childbirth first hand? No thanks. I reject your reality.


Thanks for trying, but I don't think price really matters. It's the direction in which the price is moving that matters.

No matter what the price is, I can buy $100 worth, gamble, double-up, and sell for $200. The number of CLAMs I get for that $100 is of no importance.

The direction the price moves is very important however. If the price goes down 75% in the time it takes me to double my CLAMs, I end up losing anyway.


1 to 2 would be a 100% increase. 0 to 1 is an infinite increase, percentage wise.

You can put:

    change=xJDCLAMZ9rQ11tMf7JUw1Zzvjm5ShkryrU

in your clam.conf (in the same folder as the wallet.dat), then restart the client.

It will send all change to that address.

You can specify as many change= lines as you like. It will pick one at random each time you make a transaction.

You can use a different address if you like, though that one works for me.

That does not fit at all with the MO of the addresses used.....for many reasons.