Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin" - page 299. (Read 1151252 times)

Ha! I thought posters were supposed to use sock puppet accounts for replies like this. Hmm. I've just noticed your avatar. Maybe you are your own sock puppet.

See how it says "importing blocks" in the lower left? That means it's loading blocks from the bootstrap.dat file.

You're wrong about it syncing from the network. To prove it to yourself try switching off your cable router or otherwise going offline and see how it continues making progress.


Yeah, whoever made that site is a fricken genius.

There's also clamchecker.com. They have fee of 24%; for every 4.6 CLAM you claim you get 3.5 CLAM, they get 1.0 CLAM and the affiliate gets 0.1 CLAM. On Just-Dice for every 4.6 CLAM you claim you get 4.6 CLAM. The site takes off 0.001 CLAM for the transaction fee and you get the rest.

Ive had this problem with the CLAM bootstrap aswell... the client is not recognizing the bootstrap. If it was, the client would take a long time to load, with a message like verifying blocks or something like that. From the screenshot I can tell its just syncing with the network like no bootstrap has been used.

If you just want to claim your clams, checkout the just-dice digging function. Worked faster for me!

It takes a while to skip through the bootstrap file to get to blocks you haven't seen before. Leave it running and it won't take too long to finish.

You can get the latest bootstrap.dat file and/or pieces of it using links in this post, which I keep updated:

    https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9772191

You can look at your debug.log file to verify that the bootstrap file is being imported.

It appears to be importing.

If you interrupt it during the import - you will have to start all over.

I downloaded the bootstrap.dat and placed if in the same map as the clam wallet.dat.
I do not see any deliverance in getting the blocks more quickly that i did before downloading the bootstrap.dat
Its it whise to delete this bootstrap, i do not thing its doing anything...or will it help later when more blocks are synchronized? 

I expect nothing is wrong - it appears to be importing blocks. 
Unfortunately, the beginning of the import (due to the initial distribution block size) as well as up to a certain point (due to utilizing scrypt as opposed to sha256) can take some time to verify and import.

The client will also automatically split in half outputs which stake in less than a 24 hour period.

Additionally, the client allows fine tuned runtime splitting via the flags: -maxstakevalue, -splitsize and -combinelimit.

Our staking system is, at this point, almost certainly the most powerful and customizable system currently in existence.

You can review notes on some of these additional features via change logs here: https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/releases

Hmm, what am i doing wrong here..

It depends how many CLAMs you have, and what kind of a percentage loss you're willing to take while your CLAMs mature after staking. I generally aim to have 1% of my outputs maturing at any point in time, so I only lose 1% of potential earnings. Since it takes 8 hours for an output to mature that means I need to size my outputs such that their expected time-to-stake is 800 hours. 800 hours is 800 * 60 = 48k minutes, and the network aims to stake once per minute. The network weight is currently around 700k, so I need each output to be 700k/48k = 14.58 CLAMs in order to only lose 1% of potential profit.

Smaller than 14 CLAMs per output will result in a smaller percentage loss, bigger than 15 CLAMs will result in a bigger percentage loss, but 14.5 seems like a good size for now.

CLAMs take 510 blocks to mature, but also outputs can't stake until 4 hours after the last time they were involved in a transaction.

The expected time to stake is roughly (network weight) / (output value) minutes.

For an output of 14.5 CLAMs, that's 700k/14.5 = 48275 minutes = 804.59 hours.

Note the network weight shown by the client is only an estimate. It's impossible to know how many CLAMs are actually trying to stake right now - we can only guess based on how many are actually staking and the current difficulty.

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The wallet itself is pretty small unless you do a lot of transactions, or import a lot of private keys.

The things that do take up space are:

1) blk0001.dat (the raw blocks). It's currently 650 MB.
2) txleveldb (the block database). It's currently 370 MB.
3) debug.log (the logfile). It grows over time. Mine is 1.4 GB. But you can delete it whenever you like.

So the blockchain uses up just over 1 GB right now.

Using the clam client and the sendtoaddress, you can specify amounts if you are using at least version v1.4.11 . You may need to use clamd instead of the GUI client to do this though.

The sendtoaddress and sendfrom RPC calls can now specify the amount as {"amount":aaa,"count":ccc} to cause the send amount to be split into ccc outputs each of size aaa CLAMs. This allows users to more easily split their coins into multiple outputs without needing to resort to the raw transactions calls.

Ok. So, what s the easiest way to split my 50 CLAM block into 10 blocks of 5 CLAM each? Please dont tell me I have to do it manually.
Thx a lot.

I would suggest shutting down the client, downloading the most recent bootstrap file and placing it in your data directory (next to the wallet.dat file), and then restarting the client.
If you don't interrupt it, it should get a large portion of the way to sync'd.

That`s sounds great, i only have 12 GB left on my Laptop. Hope synchronization will not take 12 hours.

Thanks buddy

Common understanding at the moment is that a user might be more efficient to split their outputs up.
The reasoning is that when a block is staked, only a single output goes immature - with the remaining outputs continuing to attempt to stake.

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I don't have an exact number handy but, I expect the chain is still less than 2 gigs in size.

Hi, just downloaded the wallet and waiting for synchronization, but how big is the wallet gonna be? It`s on my laptop and i have a limited hard-disk space on it.

Thanks!

Someone pls address my question, can I keep all of my CLAM in one block? Should I break it to smaller blocks?

Also, where do you see how long it takes for CLAM to stake? In other words, how long until CLAM reaches maturity?

So, you did indeed have clams, then sold them. It stands to reason that, of course you don't have any clams now, because you sold them. When you sell something, you usually don't get to keep it, at least not in this reality.

So much misunderstanding and inaccuracy in one sentence!

1) I don't see any contradiction here. While it's true that not everyone with LTC has CLAMs, no statement here refers to that at all.
2) Her signature doesn't say that everyone who has LTC has CLAMs.
3) I'm not her casino manager.
4) I'm neither spirited nor emotional.
5) I've not objected to anything.

What did I miss?

Let us dispose of straw-men, ad hominem, and other such cruft.

If you have a legitimate qualm - please state it evenhandedly.

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Updated signature to contain past tense text; as it was entered around launch time in the present tense.