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legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Lauda, no need to use such word, let's stay cicilized. Normal mix up yeah right.
Bullshit is pretty civilized considering the intentional trolling and spreading of fear in this thread.

You are only escrow. It looks like you have a big interest in this project for some reason.
I somewhat know nemgun, thus try to help out as much as I can even though much of the people don't deserve it anyways. I won't stand by while randoms try to unjustifiably attack the project.

Must be the competitors panicking. Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
If the (lead) dev mix up hashing with encrypting that doesn't look good at all.
The condescending answer to a very legit question was uncalled for, since we are all potential customers.
Pure bullshit. Nemgun is not the "(lead) dev" and it's very normal to mix up terms under these stressful conditions. Stop trying to spread unnecessary fear.

Lauda, no need to use such word, let's stay cicilized. Again we are all potential costomers.
So Nemgun is not the (lead) dev, who is then?
Normal mix up yeah right. That's one opinion...  Roll Eyes
You are only escrow. It looks like you have a big interest in this project for some reason.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Just an FYI, the NVO thread now has full-on censorship.
My response to nemgun's uninvited insults got deleted.
Which only proves that something is really-really fishy about NVO.
Do not spread bullshit. Neither Nemgun, nor anyone from the NVO team can delete any posts in here. Stop breaking the forum rules and your posts won't be removed. Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001

I feel that you are really limited, you try to make the clever for nothing by giving definitions that everyone knows. I'm going to explain what a blockchain is, it is like a database, and I'll save hash in that database.
So when the smart contract will be hashed in sha256, it will serve as an id.
Now A wants to make a trade, it leaves coins for sale and goes offline, how the database will call its smart contract? She will call it using using the hash.
I will help you learn a few things, when you read definitions ask yourself what are they for, you will be able to understand them better, so after the definitions, it is the functions.


I've tried my best to stay objective and unbiased, as all I ever wanted was to get clarity on the claimed security of the validator's private key signing the smart contract, and I very well appreciate the language barrier (btw, English isn't my first language either).
Why was I trying to get that clarity? - Because I wanted to be sure that I'd be making a sound investment.
But throughout these almost two weeks, I kept seeing a lot of smoke and mirrors. You know, it's totally understood when a given mechanism is just a trade secret and the author doesn't want to disclose that information so early.
But then it would make perfect sense to just state it as-is, instead of going in circles but never actually delivering a consistent and clear picture of the intended implementation.
The direct undeserved personal attacks and baseless name-calling is very inappropriate, especially when the respondent themselves is well aware of the problems with the language barrier and Google Translate.
I don't feel like I need to embark on a defense line here, because what I've been told speaks more about the person saying that than it does about me.
But anyone interested in verifying my professional experience which is only 25 years too late to be "limited" is more than welcome to PM me and obtain a link to my LinkedIn profile.
So, I pass on this one.
Good day all! And good luck!
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1002
For the ones who are curious: I calculated the total sum of the digits shown on nvo.io without laziness. What is collected until now is  $3,938,865 (Aprox). This may exceed 5 million in recent days and hours. Probably, we will be the owner of several NVOT, ico unit price of which are 40c. When it is accepted to Bittrex or a similar exchange with 15M supply, price will reach to a digit between the range of $1 - 1,5 at least for one time, easily.
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Saw an ad for NVO on CoinGecko and I wanted to come learn about it, but I am seeing lots of bad talk here. Is this project doing good, is it a good idea to buy into the crowdsale? Are there issues going on?
newbie
Activity: 8
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Please explain how it will be tracked who invested and to whom will be sent NVO tokens if all the money goes to one bitcoin address?
How you using for that the receiving bitcoin address which we are registered in NVO dashboard?
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 533
Reposting:


I feel that you are really limited, you try to make the clever for nothing by giving definitions that everyone knows. I'm going to explain what a blockchain is, it is like a database, and I'll save hash in that database.
So when the smart contract will be hashed in sha256, it will serve as an id.
Now A wants to make a trade, it leaves coins for sale and goes offline, how the database will call its smart contract? She will call it using using the hash.
I will help you learn a few things, when you read definitions ask yourself what are they for, you will be able to understand them better, so after the definitions, it is the functions.


I've tried my best to stay objective and unbiased, as all I ever wanted was to get clarity on the claimed security of the validator's private key signing the smart contract, and I very well appreciate the language barrier (btw, English isn't my first language either).
Why was I trying to get that clarity? - Because I wanted to be sure that I'd be making a sound investment.
But throughout these almost two weeks, I kept seeing a lot of smoke and mirrors. You know, it's totally understood when a given mechanism is just a trade secret and the author doesn't want to disclose that information so early.
But then it would make perfect sense to just state it as-is, instead of going in circles but never actually delivering a consistent and clear picture of the intended implementation.
The direct undeserved personal attacks and baseless name-calling is very inappropriate, especially when the respondent themselves is well aware of the problems with the language barrier and Google Translate.
I don't feel like I need to embark on a defense line here, because what I've been told speaks more about the person saying that than it does about me.
But anyone interested in verifying my professional experience which is only 25 years too late to be "limited" is more than welcome to PM me and obtain a link to my LinkedIn profile.
So, I pass on this one.
Good day all! And good luck!


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instead of going in circles
I do not want to make circles, I try to explain in a clear way because when I publicly reply it is necessary to be clear, not only to the person who asked the question, but also to those who read the question and the answer, who need to have other notions to understand.

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personal attacks and baseless name-calling
On the other hand it is complicated to answer a question where you are told that you are not capable, in the final, it is a question or a provocation? I do not know what to say.

Allo you talk to me about mathematical breakthrou, it is to take me for an idiot, it is not nice to talk like that, imagine that it is a miss expression or typo, it is not that severe.

I also have to answer here to answer emails at the same time, given that we have a hundred a day, there are technical questions I have to answer on skype, so try to be kind enough not to disparage our work.

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But then it would make perfect sense to just state it as-is
Since the beginning I said that the source code would remain closed, but I still tried to explain some mechanisms.

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too late to be "limited"
What I mean by limited is that sometimes we ask a question and try to belittle at the same time, there is a limit of open-mindedness here. I do not insult anyone, but sometimes you have to take a step back and see what really disturbs.

In addition, if I remember well, it is you who brought the question from safeforum, and I thank you for it, because it made me pleasure, but after you tell me, if you do not do that, you are not capable, at the end it disturbed me because I had thought that at the beginning it was part of a good intention, but instead it was to try to put me in a bad position, and I did not appreciate it, I think its understandable.

There is no problem, and I wish you courage, and I hope that you will find a project that will suit you.

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And I honestly tried as best as I could to get myself convinced that there was a solid foundation
Regarding the foundation, i don't think that Coinpayments and their CEO would risk their reputation in a baseless project if they didn't trusted it.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Ok, I see that my post got deleted by the moderator, as apparently it didn't conform with the overall "shut up you sheep" attitude of the team.
I'm just speechless to see this censorship at work.
And btw, who's the moderator here? - If it's nemgun, then I'm not surprised at all.
Just really hope it wasn't Lauda.  Sad

I don't think it have been deleted, this thread isn't self moderated, and lauda isn't a moderator.



Well, yes it was. And I'm obviously going to share it directly with some participants of this thread.

Let me explain how it works, as you are apparently new to the forum, i am not a moderator, and the thread isn't self moderated, no one have the ability to delet your post except the moderators. which means that if your post have been deleted, it is because you broke bitcointalk's posting rules.

I read the post, there was nothing wrong with it, so somebody deleted it...it did however say that this ICO was not worth investing in.  Not sure how that can violate the forum rules.

Allo, repost it...

In fact, the post doesn't even say that this ICO is not worth investing in, - it just says what I personally have decided to do based on my failed attempts to get clarity.
And I honestly tried as best as I could to get myself convinced that there was a solid foundation, and do so through a civilized yet very specific technical discussion.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Reposting:


I feel that you are really limited, you try to make the clever for nothing by giving definitions that everyone knows. I'm going to explain what a blockchain is, it is like a database, and I'll save hash in that database.
So when the smart contract will be hashed in sha256, it will serve as an id.
Now A wants to make a trade, it leaves coins for sale and goes offline, how the database will call its smart contract? She will call it using using the hash.
I will help you learn a few things, when you read definitions ask yourself what are they for, you will be able to understand them better, so after the definitions, it is the functions.


I've tried my best to stay objective and unbiased, as all I ever wanted was to get clarity on the claimed security of the validator's private key signing the smart contract, and I very well appreciate the language barrier (btw, English isn't my first language either).
Why was I trying to get that clarity? - Because I wanted to be sure that I'd be making a sound investment.
But throughout these almost two weeks, I kept seeing a lot of smoke and mirrors. You know, it's totally understood when a given mechanism is just a trade secret and the author doesn't want to disclose that information so early.
But then it would make perfect sense to just state it as-is, instead of going in circles but never actually delivering a consistent and clear picture of the intended implementation.
The direct undeserved personal attacks and baseless name-calling is very inappropriate, especially when the respondent themselves is well aware of the problems with the language barrier and Google Translate.
I don't feel like I need to embark on a defense line here, because what I've been told speaks more about the person saying that than it does about me.
But anyone interested in verifying my professional experience which is only 25 years too late to be "limited" is more than welcome to PM me and obtain a link to my LinkedIn profile.
So, I pass on this one.
Good day all! And good luck!
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 15
Ok, I see that my post got deleted by the moderator, as apparently it didn't conform with the overall "shut up you sheep" attitude of the team.
I'm just speechless to see this censorship at work.
And btw, who's the moderator here? - If it's nemgun, then I'm not surprised at all.
Just really hope it wasn't Lauda.  Sad

I don't think it have been deleted, this thread isn't self moderated, and lauda isn't a moderator.



Well, yes it was. And I'm obviously going to share it directly with some participants of this thread.

Let me explain how it works, as you are apparently new to the forum, i am not a moderator, and the thread isn't self moderated, no one have the ability to delet your post except the moderators. which means that if your post have been deleted, it is because you broke bitcointalk's posting rules.

I read the post, there was nothing wrong with it, so somebody deleted it...it did however say that this ICO was not worth investing in.  Not sure how that can violate the forum rules.

Allo, repost it...
hero member
Activity: 608
Merit: 509

yes, I saw this article, however looking at the counterwallet you can import only the 12 words you get to re-generate the wallet, the only thing I found for importing the address using privkey to counterparty/counterwallet was a sweep option

https://counterpartytalk.org/t/how-to-use-private-key-to-import-btc-funds-from-external-address-to-counterwallet-address/1225

can't find a thing about using a btc address generated with vanitygen (for example) using counterwallet


Yes IMHO there's been some confusion in this thread lately about "SWEEP" vs. "IMPORT" of private key in the CounterWallet app... sweeping really IS NOT WHAT WE WANT here, if we intend to target a particular / special address with priv key for the main NVO address that we'll use.

If CounterWallet can only *sweep* at the moment then it really is NOT what should be used in this case: please look back at my earlier question posted in this thread, a few pages back... and the dev's responses to it so far.

I'm also intending to use a VANITYGEN address for this crowdsale, and I'll have a longer post to update what they said and my Q & A on it later tonite or tomorrow (sorry, too tired now to write more but I will be back ASAP Smiley )
hero member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 501
An article about the ICO:

https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-nvo/
That analysis is of no value to anyone deciding whether to invest or not for the simple reason they seem to not have read the white paper to know there are two different coins NOVT and NVOS and that NVOS are the ones that have a fixed price and that NOVT value will be decided by the market.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 533
Ok, I see that my post got deleted by the moderator, as apparently it didn't conform with the overall "shut up you sheep" attitude of the team.
I'm just speechless to see this censorship at work.
And btw, who's the moderator here? - If it's nemgun, then I'm not surprised at all.
Just really hope it wasn't Lauda.  Sad

I don't think it have been deleted, this thread isn't self moderated, and lauda isn't a moderator.



Well, yes it was. And I'm obviously going to share it directly with some participants of this thread.

Let me explain how it works, as you are apparently new to the forum, i am not a moderator, and the thread isn't self moderated, no one have the ability to delet your post except the moderators. which means that if your post have been deleted, it is because you broke bitcointalk's posting rules.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Ok, I see that my post got deleted by the moderator, as apparently it didn't conform with the overall "shut up you sheep" attitude of the team.
I'm just speechless to see this censorship at work.
And btw, who's the moderator here? - If it's nemgun, then I'm not surprised at all.
Just really hope it wasn't Lauda.  Sad

I don't think it have been deleted, this thread isn't self moderated, and lauda isn't a moderator.



Well, yes it was. And I'm obviously going to share it directly with some participants of this thread.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 533
Ok, I see that my post got deleted by the moderator, as apparently it didn't conform with the overall "shut up you sheep" attitude of the team.
I'm just speechless to see this censorship at work.
And btw, who's the moderator here? - If it's nemgun, then I'm not surprised at all.
Just really hope it wasn't Lauda.  Sad

I don't think it have been deleted, this thread isn't self moderated, and lauda isn't a moderator.






can someone help me...
i just entered my bitcoin address to dashboard,
and then send ETH to ETH address provided by dashboard
but after it was sent, ETH balance still 0 in dashboard
i can see my ETH transfer on etherchain

Thanks for participating, the dashboard needs some time to show the balance, as long as your transaction is confirmed and available on a block explorer, it is received.





Ok, I have been a silly boy and made the mistake of entering a bitcoin address from my Trezor where I don't control the private keys. Now I have no way of deleting my account at NVO and starting again unless someone here knows a way to do this. I don't want to use a different email address to sign up again.

Alternatively, if I don't deposit bitcoins but make a deposit, say, with Litecoins instead, from a wallet like Electrum, where I do control the private key, can I still do this? Will I receive my NVOT's into Electrum?

At what point will I have to import my private key from Electrum to counterparty? Before or after ICO is over? Thank you in advance.



What you can do is joining on slack, there is a channel #issue1 where people with this kind of issue are directed, from there you can also contact@tonbi or @marto for further support.





also I've never used counterwallet before - how do I use it with an address generated using vanitygen or electrum (so I can work with NVOTs), for example?
You just need to control the private key to the address(es) you've used to invest with. All you have to do is import the private key(s) into counterwallet. Pretty simple. This guide covers investing with counterwallet, albeit it does not mention importing private keys: https://medium.com/nvo-exchange/how-to-contribute-to-the-nvo-crowdsale-d3e4453e3d7d


yes, I saw this article, however looking at the counterwallet you can import only the 12 words you get to re-generate the wallet, the only thing I found for importing the address using privkey to counterparty/counterwallet was a sweep option

https://counterpartytalk.org/t/how-to-use-private-key-to-import-btc-funds-from-external-address-to-counterwallet-address/1225

can't find a thing about using a btc address generated with vanitygen (for example) using counterwallet

The sweep process is due to the fact that you send your private key over internet, so it is wiser to sweep rather then import.





I'm confused as I don't quite undestand how I will be able to redeem my NVOT.
I sent BTC through Electrum and as far as i understand the NVOTs will be send back to the same wallet Ideposited from, but how will i be able to redeem them with Electrum=?

Tried to use my electrum seedon counterwallet, but that didnt workd.

See the answer above ^
If you need more help, please join us on slack.





I can send altcoins from an exchange correct? just not bitcoin?
Yes developers are going to allow exchange of selected coins. You can exchange every coin you want. Only dead or useless coins will be not listed.
It is obvious that developers would focus on introducing support for the most popular altcoins first.
I would be glad that they include every coin they used for their ICO: Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ripple, ETH/ETC, Maid, Dash, Waves, Doge.
We don't need another Yobit-like exchange with dozens of totally useless/dead coins.

These coins have been added because they will be the first ones to be supported.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Ok, I see that my post got deleted by the moderator, as apparently it didn't conform with the overall "shut up you sheep" attitude of the team.
I'm just speechless to see this censorship at work.
And btw, who's the moderator here? - If it's nemgun, then I'm not surprised at all.
Just really hope it wasn't Lauda.  Sad
hero member
Activity: 1400
Merit: 505
can someone help me...
i just entered my bitcoin address to dashboard,
and then send ETH to ETH address provided by dashboard
but after it was sent, ETH balance still 0 in dashboard
i can see my ETH transfer on etherchain
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
Ok, I have been a silly boy and made the mistake of entering a bitcoin address from my Trezor where I don't control the private keys. Now I have no way of deleting my account at NVO and starting again unless someone here knows a way to do this. I don't want to use a different email address to sign up again.

Alternatively, if I don't deposit bitcoins but make a deposit, say, with Litecoins instead, from a wallet like Electrum, where I do control the private key, can I still do this? Will I receive my NVOT's into Electrum?

At what point will I have to import my private key from Electrum to counterparty? Before or after ICO is over? Thank you in advance.



member
Activity: 101
Merit: 10
also I've never used counterwallet before - how do I use it with an address generated using vanitygen or electrum (so I can work with NVOTs), for example?
You just need to control the private key to the address(es) you've used to invest with. All you have to do is import the private key(s) into counterwallet. Pretty simple. This guide covers investing with counterwallet, albeit it does not mention importing private keys: https://medium.com/nvo-exchange/how-to-contribute-to-the-nvo-crowdsale-d3e4453e3d7d


yes, I saw this article, however looking at the counterwallet you can import only the 12 words you get to re-generate the wallet, the only thing I found for importing the address using privkey to counterparty/counterwallet was a sweep option

https://counterpartytalk.org/t/how-to-use-private-key-to-import-btc-funds-from-external-address-to-counterwallet-address/1225

can't find a thing about using a btc address generated with vanitygen (for example) using counterwallet
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