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Topic: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟 - page 128. (Read 170086 times)

sr. member
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This may have been answered before but I didn't see it when reading the thread...

Once the campaign is over, will you stagger the sells of the coins you've collected? Any worries about a series of big sells orders causing a dip just as you are funding? Just curious if there's been any thought given to this, or if it's a valid concern at all. I know in the world of stocks there are people who are trained to specifically sell a little at a time when exiting large positions to maximize their profits.
legendary
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Imagine that we are in a room you and me, and that we have made a program for a system of probability. And we do not want to know the result, first we are going to do the program that flips a coin randomly, except that if we want to see the result, it must be recorded to be able to read it, except that In this case, the result must go to the safenet.
The first question is that we have made the algorithm, we know it, and have the decryption key, except that to be sure not to know the key, we will ask the blockchain to generate a random decryption key, and give us a smart contract, it will convey the coin to safenet.

So the smart contract is only the vehicle of the coin that we fliped. The computation will be used to flip the piece elsewhere. We will not have the decryption key.


Please explain what you are trying to say more formally and mathematically because that is nearly incoherent.  If you cannot express your algorithm mathematically, then there's zero chance you can implement it.
newbie
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Hello,

I am fairly new to this and I was wondering if there was a way to see our contribution (BTC) on the crowdsale website?
Indeed, the website counterwallet which I use doesn't seems to display my transaction history (this guy has the same issue apparently https://counterpartytalk.org/t/transfer-not-showing-in-history/3190).

I just want to be sure I did not lose any money.

I wish you all a good day and thank you for your help.

Best,
Trigul
hero member
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An article about the ICO:

https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-nvo/

There's one crucial error that I found in this analysis (so far)

Quote
The token will be called NVOT (NVO Token) and will apparently have a fixed price. This doesn’t, of course, make it untradeable via other exchanges, which could give it varying prices and some volatility regardless of any efforts.

NVOT will trade at whatever the market decides, NVOS will be stable at $0.99. Unless I just really didn't grasp the concept properly.

Who is going to guarantee that NVOS will be stable at $0.99?
Do you think that NVO owners/developers would start bying NVOS when the price goes under 0.99 USD?
I`m still confused about a lot of things regarding this project and most of the posts here sound like japanese to me. Grin


I understand the way you view this because in an open market there is no way price can be fixed without intervention of the external party which in this case is the developers. My concern to this is that will there be a particular exchange where this will be done and aside that how long will the support will be for the token in case market forces are swinging in both ways?
sr. member
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An article about the ICO:

https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-nvo/

There's one crucial error that I found in this analysis (so far)

Quote
The token will be called NVOT (NVO Token) and will apparently have a fixed price. This doesn’t, of course, make it untradeable via other exchanges, which could give it varying prices and some volatility regardless of any efforts.

NVOT will trade at whatever the market decides, NVOS will be stable at $0.99. Unless I just really didn't grasp the concept properly.

Who is going to guarantee that NVOS will be stable at $0.99?
Do you think that NVO owners/developers would start bying NVOS when the price goes under 0.99 USD?
I`m still confused about a lot of things regarding this project and most of the posts here sound like japanese to me. Grin


i have  read bitcointalk and safemaid forum, seems nvos will be rebought @ $0.99 when exchange lauch.

from my understanding is feasible because: ----) exchange fees /2

so if nvos value is fixed @ $0.99

let's assume $10.000 in fees today ----) $ 5.000 to the system -----) $5.000 in NVOS for NVOT holders (5.050 NVOS @ $0,99)

basically they convert the fees dollars and create NVOS, the $5000 FIAT value from the conversion is stored!!

Is obvious $5000 ---) 5.050 NVOS ----) $5000


Instead NVOT will be on exchanges and price will fluctuate

i think:

         NVOS -----) NVO Stake
         NVOT -----) NVO Token


But the real question... what NVO Stand for?





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Is the personal bitcoin address which I has sumbit in the nvo.io the same address I have in my  jaxx wallet?
hero member
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An article about the ICO:

https://hacked.com/ico-analysis-nvo/

There's one crucial error that I found in this analysis (so far)

Quote
The token will be called NVOT (NVO Token) and will apparently have a fixed price. This doesn’t, of course, make it untradeable via other exchanges, which could give it varying prices and some volatility regardless of any efforts.

NVOT will trade at whatever the market decides, NVOS will be stable at $0.99. Unless I just really didn't grasp the concept properly.

Who is going to guarantee that NVOS will be stable at $0.99?
Do you think that NVO owners/developers would start bying NVOS when the price goes under 0.99 USD?
I`m still confused about a lot of things regarding this project and most of the posts here sound like japanese to me. Grin
hero member
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Hi Sir/Mam,
Kindly advice how to confirm my contribution went through.

Currently my contribution does not reflect in my account private Altcoins addresses .
Ethereum:
0xf3b521ed63565025396bafd8f2cd78045a25c6f3


https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf891fe8f53e5069bedf2492cae6101e6490af4b2cebfe1e552a913af1c0e621


Thanks and regards,



Your ethereum address must be from https://www.myetherwallet.com wallet and you will need to add the nvo token to your watch list.

The information below is from https://www.myetherwallet.com website

A Token Creation Period (ICO) may cause delays in transactions on June 20 2PM - 8PM GMT. What time is it now?
If your TX is not urgent, we recommend waiting for faster & cheaper TXs. You can also use a gas price of 50 GWEI, which you can adjust in the footer. Thank you for understanding.



Thanks.. Had already added nvo token to my watch list. Will the token balance only be reflected after the crowdsale?

Yes, when the crowdsale ends, we will parse the addresses and calculate the price of NVO token.





Hello i already logged in and already entered a btc address but when i press the home button it returns me too log in again i tried it thrice already. is there something im missing in logging in?.. thanks

May be site fatal 404 error passed in the website due to crawler spikes. You can clear the cache and try to log in again. If there is coding bug popped up means you can write a text to site support or the moderators who is tech savy to help you.

404 isn't a fatal error, it means that he can't find the file, which is not related in his case. I spoke with Yani about that issue, he is still waiting for you.





I used CPS wallet to send bitcoin to join the crowdsale, is that ok?

Sadly no, please join us on slack, then join the channel #issue1, you will be notified as soon as a viable solution will be available.





How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

I was thinking about the same thing and didnt got any answer regarding it. Will be joining the slack soon and will be discussing this. In the meantime, promoting NVO more on Twitter.

Thank you for your support.





saqwe - it is possible answer my two questions? Smiley
1. private keys = backup phrase? (e.g. bitpay uses as backup just this phrase or it is possible to export private key from bitpay e.g. like is in paper wallet?)
2. who will guarantee 99 cents for NVOS? It would be possible to sell it e.g. on poloniex? If so, who will guarantee price? because every week there will be lots ot NVOS tokens for sale ... if price on poloniex cant be fixed at 99 cents, how could people sell it in this price?

1- You should use counterwallet to solve this issue with no hussle.
2-NVO will guarantee the price, as NVO will buy them back. Not possible to be listed on Poloniex, at first it will be hosted on counterparty, and later added to NVO exchange.




huge thx for answers, but ...
- bitpay is recommended by NVO .. but ok, i can use counterwallet
- why on earth would buy NVO back NVOS? Why cant they send directly btc?!

It is not about been recomended, but the easiest one to use is counterwallet.
It is about legal sides of the project, it is a way to protect the NVO token holders and to keep the exchange decentralized.





Hi Folks:

Interesting project here... looks pretty good so far.

I am still reading thru all the ANN thread to be sure I understand everything before investing, but time running short LOL and I'm still only on page 33 at the moment, so I wanted to jump ahead here to the end and ask a question (hope this is not a repeat of anything earlier, apologies if so...)

Anyway, SO, okay... I understand I need to use a bitcoin address where I have the private key FOR SURE, for this to work in the future.

I used VANITYGEN to make up my own custom "1nvo..." address for this.  So far so good.  Was able to import this address into a web wallet for SENDING the bitcoins, so that should be okay?  And/OR if in the future there's any problem about whatever web wallet I'll use for this (OmniWallet or blockchain.info, whatever) as long as I have preserved the priv key everything should be okay to access my NVO value in whatever other way is best at that time (the NVO wallet itself, presumably...?)

My QUESTION is about the CounterWallet alternative, that's also been noted earlier in this thread.

I made a wallet account there and looked to see IF it was possible to add my VANITY ADDRESS via private key, BUT it appears that CounterWallet only will SWEEP a balance from an entered private key and put the funds, instead, onto it's OWN address???  Repeat: CounterWallet does not seem to be able to directly "ADD" a bitcoin address using a private key (unless I misunderstood something there?)

So, Is this correct?

And, if so, please clarify my understanding that THIS IS NOT what we need for correct working of the crowdsale... yes?

On the contrary -- seems to me that use of the CounterWallet address is ONLY advised to be by way of their OWN address in the wallet (albeit, yes, they provide private key) and ONLY because this wallet will allow us to "SEE" our NVO tokens right away (as "counterparty" assets?) whereas using another wallet and bitcoin private key will require us to WAIT a bit (but, how long?) to be able to see our purchased tokens, after the crowdsale is over....?

Again, is my understanding of this correct?  Please advise.

Bottom line, I'd prefer to use my custom vanity address for this IF possible, as long as it won't take TOO long after the crowdsale is over to be able to confirm my purchase in the NVO wallet itself: if it's gonna be MONTHS later, well, then maybe it'd be better to use the address provided in the CounterWallet system instead.

Thanks in advance for reply.

Hope this was clear enough question LOL


You are right about allwhat you said, except that you can your balance using counterparty explorer, or https://xchain.io/
Yes, they sweep the address, because they consider that it is unsafe, the problem here is that you have a vanity address.

You can still keep it as is, and retreive the address using xchain, and create transactions manually. Or wait untill NVO releases a wallet update.
It is all up to your decision.

Feel free to ask if you have more questions, you can join us on slack too.



hero member
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Hi Folks:

Interesting project here... looks pretty good so far.

I am still reading thru all the ANN thread to be sure I understand everything before investing, but time running short LOL and I'm still only on page 33 at the moment, so I wanted to jump ahead here to the end and ask a question (hope this is not a repeat of anything earlier, apologies if so...)

Anyway, SO, okay... I understand I need to use a bitcoin address where I have the private key FOR SURE, for this to work in the future.

I used VANITYGEN to make up my own custom "1nvo..." address for this.  So far so good.  Was able to import this address into a web wallet for SENDING the bitcoins, so that should be okay?  And/OR if in the future there's any problem about whatever web wallet I'll use for this (OmniWallet or blockchain.info, whatever) as long as I have preserved the priv key everything should be okay to access my NVO value in whatever other way is best at that time (the NVO wallet itself, presumably...?)

My QUESTION is about the CounterWallet alternative, that's also been noted earlier in this thread.

I made a wallet account there and looked to see IF it was possible to add my VANITY ADDRESS via private key, BUT it appears that CounterWallet only will SWEEP a balance from an entered private key and put the funds, instead, onto it's OWN address???  Repeat: CounterWallet does not seem to be able to directly "ADD" a bitcoin address using a private key (unless I misunderstood something there?)

So, Is this correct?

And, if so, please clarify my understanding that THIS IS NOT what we need for correct working of the crowdsale... yes?

On the contrary -- seems to me that use of the CounterWallet address is ONLY advised to be by way of their OWN address in the wallet (albeit, yes, they provide private key) and ONLY because this wallet will allow us to "SEE" our NVO tokens right away (as "counterparty" assets?) whereas using another wallet and bitcoin private key will require us to WAIT a bit (but, how long?) to be able to see our purchased tokens, after the crowdsale is over....?

Again, is my understanding of this correct?  Please advise.

Bottom line, I'd prefer to use my custom vanity address for this IF possible, as long as it won't take TOO long after the crowdsale is over to be able to confirm my purchase in the NVO wallet itself: if it's gonna be MONTHS later, well, then maybe it'd be better to use the address provided in the CounterWallet system instead.

Thanks in advance for reply.

Hope this was clear enough question LOL


You could take the risk and try it with a small amount, i am wondering also if i can used my custom vanity address but i am afraid that it will not work. The transaction fee of Bitcoin now a days is very large so i don't bother in trying my vanity address so instead i used the address that was provided by them.
legendary
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Hope this was clear enough question LOL


Long story short, if you have the private key that you generated with vanitygen you're good to go. What wallet it's imported to is irrelevant until you want to see your NVOT then it'll need to be imported as a counterparty address to see the tokens.
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Interesting, can anyone give me a rundown as to why you went with Maidsafe?

Watch the interview on Youtube, it's an interesting video

They choose Maidsafe because they are already working on a decentralized network, so it's less work for them
newbie
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Interesting, can anyone give me a rundown as to why you went with Maidsafe?
hero member
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Hi Folks:

Interesting project here... looks pretty good so far.

I am still reading thru all the ANN thread to be sure I understand everything before investing, but time running short LOL and I'm still only on page 33 at the moment, so I wanted to jump ahead here to the end and ask a question (hope this is not a repeat of anything earlier, apologies if so...)

Anyway, SO, okay... I understand I need to use a bitcoin address where I have the private key FOR SURE, for this to work in the future.

I used VANITYGEN to make up my own custom "1nvo..." address for this.  So far so good.  Was able to import this address into a web wallet for SENDING the bitcoins, so that should be okay?  And/OR if in the future there's any problem about whatever web wallet I'll use for this (OmniWallet or blockchain.info, whatever) as long as I have preserved the priv key everything should be okay to access my NVO value in whatever other way is best at that time (the NVO wallet itself, presumably...?)

My QUESTION is about the CounterWallet alternative, that's also been noted earlier in this thread.

I made a wallet account there and looked to see IF it was possible to add my VANITY ADDRESS via private key, BUT it appears that CounterWallet only will SWEEP a balance from an entered private key and put the funds, instead, onto it's OWN address???  Repeat: CounterWallet does not seem to be able to directly "ADD" a bitcoin address using a private key (unless I misunderstood something there?)

So, Is this correct?

And, if so, please clarify my understanding that THIS IS NOT what we need for correct working of the crowdsale... yes?

On the contrary -- seems to me that use of the CounterWallet address is ONLY advised to be by way of their OWN address in the wallet (albeit, yes, they provide private key) and ONLY because this wallet will allow us to "SEE" our NVO tokens right away (as "counterparty" assets?) whereas using another wallet and bitcoin private key will require us to WAIT a bit (but, how long?) to be able to see our purchased tokens, after the crowdsale is over....?

Again, is my understanding of this correct?  Please advise.

Bottom line, I'd prefer to use my custom vanity address for this IF possible, as long as it won't take TOO long after the crowdsale is over to be able to confirm my purchase in the NVO wallet itself: if it's gonna be MONTHS later, well, then maybe it'd be better to use the address provided in the CounterWallet system instead.

Thanks in advance for reply.

Hope this was clear enough question LOL
sr. member
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How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

I was thinking about the same thing and didnt got any answer regarding it. Will be joining the slack soon and will be discussing this. In the meantime, promoting NVO more on Twitter.
Anyone getting confused on that matter, NVO team will calculate the value of your coins at the end of the crowdsale – meaning if you invest 200 LTC today (at $46.25 as of now), at the end of the ICO you will get what is worth of those 200 LTC (at $50 per LTC, for example). They didn't state that funds would be fixed at the time of depositing.

newbie
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saqwe - it is possible answer my two questions? Smiley
1. private keys = backup phrase? (e.g. bitpay uses as backup just this phrase or it is possible to export private key from bitpay e.g. like is in paper wallet?)
2. who will guarantee 99 cents for NVOS? It would be possible to sell it e.g. on poloniex? If so, who will guarantee price? because every week there will be lots ot NVOS tokens for sale ... if price on poloniex cant be fixed at 99 cents, how could people sell it in this price?

1- You should use counterwallet to solve this issue with no hussle.
2-NVO will guarantee the price, as NVO will buy them back. Not possible to be listed on Poloniex, at first it will be hosted on counterparty, and later added to NVO exchange.




huge thx for answers, but ...
- bitpay is recommended by NVO .. but ok, i can use counterwallet
- why on earth would buy NVO back NVOS? Why cant they send directly btc?!
sr. member
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How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

I was thinking about the same thing and didnt got any answer regarding it. Will be joining the slack soon and will be discussing this. In the meantime, promoting NVO more on Twitter.

This was answered by nemgun earlier. See for yourself:
How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

The calculation will be done at the end of the crowdsale timer.

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How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

I was thinking about the same thing and didnt got any answer regarding it. Will be joining the slack soon and will be discussing this. In the meantime, promoting NVO more on Twitter.
newbie
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I used CPS wallet to send bitcoin to join the crowdsale, is that ok?
hero member
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Hello i already logged in and already entered a btc address but when i press the home button it returns me too log in again i tried it thrice already. is there something im missing in logging in?.. thanks

May be site fatal 404 error passed in the website due to crawler spikes. You can clear the cache and try to log in again. If there is coding bug popped up means you can write a text to site support or the moderators who is tech savy to help you.
newbie
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Hi Sir/Mam,
Kindly advice how to confirm my contribution went through.

Currently my contribution does not reflect in my account private Altcoins addresses .
Ethereum:
0xf3b521ed63565025396bafd8f2cd78045a25c6f3


https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf891fe8f53e5069bedf2492cae6101e6490af4b2cebfe1e552a913af1c0e621


Thanks and regards,



Your ethereum address must be from https://www.myetherwallet.com wallet and you will need to add the nvo token to your watch list.

The information below is from https://www.myetherwallet.com website

A Token Creation Period (ICO) may cause delays in transactions on June 20 2PM - 8PM GMT. What time is it now?
If your TX is not urgent, we recommend waiting for faster & cheaper TXs. You can also use a gas price of 50 GWEI, which you can adjust in the footer. Thank you for understanding.



Thanks.. Had already added nvo token to my watch list. Will the token balance only be reflected after the crowdsale?
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