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newbie
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Hello, the development is moving well, the thing is that Yani wanted to deliver the wallet, i refused, as i prefer to implement the coins into the DEX and the wall at the same time in order to avoid waste of time. As the wallet is a wrapper who works with the DEX. So when a coin is implemented into the wallet, i have to be implemented in the DEX, this way we keep a clean work, the wallet will be available soon.

For Safenet, we promised to wait for about 4 monts, there is still a little less then 3 months, if it is not ready we will go with our solution. This is what we promised to do.

Hey i like the design and im a really optimistic investor that helped many people on slack and allways tries to help like the coinpayments idea from me Smiley,
But (im not sure if i understand you correctly) its a bit dissapointing for me(and many investors becaus they looked forward to it) that you want to launch the wallet with the validator,
i can understand that at a developers points it is better to do it like this but we got told from the team that the wallet(so bitcoin holding and sending ) will be ready soon, and how can we trust the word
of the team and what they are telling us when its get changed in the last minute? (Hope you can understand what i mean my english isnt the best).
I still will support nvo but im really dissapointed now and just wanted to write it down . :/


There is a smal confusion here, the wallet will come soon, but the way i implement the coins into the wallet have to be done the same way it is on the DEX. To be clear, the wallet will come before the DEX, very soon, it is almost ready, just implementing more coins the same way i implement them on the DEX.

Ah ok thank you for the reply Smiley
And sorry for misunderstanding you english isnt my native language Smiley.
hero member
Activity: 882
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Hello, the development is moving well, the thing is that Yani wanted to deliver the wallet, i refused, as i prefer to implement the coins into the DEX and the wall at the same time in order to avoid waste of time. As the wallet is a wrapper who works with the DEX. So when a coin is implemented into the wallet, i have to be implemented in the DEX, this way we keep a clean work, the wallet will be available soon.

For Safenet, we promised to wait for about 4 monts, there is still a little less then 3 months, if it is not ready we will go with our solution. This is what we promised to do.

Hey i like the design and im a really optimistic investor that helped many people on slack and allways tries to help like the coinpayments idea from me Smiley,
But (im not sure if i understand you correctly) its a bit dissapointing for me(and many investors becaus they looked forward to it) that you want to launch the wallet with the validator,
i can understand that at a developers points it is better to do it like this but we got told from the team that the wallet(so bitcoin holding and sending ) will be ready soon, and how can we trust the word
of the team and what they are telling us when its get changed in the last minute? (Hope you can understand what i mean my english isnt the best).
I still will support nvo but im really dissapointed now and just wanted to write it down . :/


There is a smal confusion here, the wallet will come soon, but the way i implement the coins into the wallet have to be done the same way it is on the DEX. To be clear, the wallet will come before the DEX, very soon, it is almost ready, just implementing more coins the same way i implement them on the DEX.
newbie
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Would it be possible to use XRP for trading pairs?

4 seconds settlement, low fees, high liquidity
legendary
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Effectively, you will be able to list the coin yourself with the plugin system, we will provide guidance in that field.







Thats even better.We look forward to seeing this up and running.

Thanks

 ~plusbus
newbie
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Hello, the development is moving well, the thing is that Yani wanted to deliver the wallet, i refused, as i prefer to implement the coins into the DEX and the wall at the same time in order to avoid waste of time. As the wallet is a wrapper who works with the DEX. So when a coin is implemented into the wallet, i have to be implemented in the DEX, this way we keep a clean work, the wallet will be available soon.

For Safenet, we promised to wait for about 4 monts, there is still a little less then 3 months, if it is not ready we will go with our solution. This is what we promised to do.

Hey i like the design and im a really optimistic investor that helped many people on slack and allways tries to help like the coinpayments idea from me Smiley,
But (im not sure if i understand you correctly) its a bit dissapointing for me(and many investors becaus they looked forward to it) that you want to launch the wallet with the validator,
i can understand that at a developers points it is better to do it like this but we got told from the team that the wallet(so bitcoin holding and sending ) will be ready soon, and how can we trust the word
of the team and what they are telling us when its get changed in the last minute? (Hope you can understand what i mean my english isnt the best).
I still will support nvo but im really dissapointed now and just wanted to write it down . :/
hero member
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Hi Nemgun

How is development going? Tonbi said on August 6 it will be in 20-30 days, is that still correct?

And the exchange is still set to december? Are you going to wait for safenet so it will be later or are you going to have your own solution so the december date would be still doable?

Thanks for your good work!

Hello, the development is moving well, the thing is that Yani wanted to deliver the wallet, i refused, as i prefer to implement the coins into the DEX and the wall at the same time in order to avoid waste of time. As the wallet is a wrapper who works with the DEX. So when a coin is implemented into the wallet, i have to be implemented in the DEX, this way we keep a clean work, the wallet will be available soon.

For Safenet, we promised to wait for about 4 monts, there is still a little less then 3 months, if it is not ready we will go with our solution. This is what we promised to do.





I am recruiting someone to make a small exchange on the new NVO website, NVST/BTC.

Is that a DEX?
I'm sorry, but what if someone think this as NVO's strategy to collect more BTC from traders without meeting what have promised (A DEx) !!

I believe when you open only NVST/BTC trade in NVO.io, mostly ICO holders will dump NVST within themselves.  Many will loose their $.  If you are starting NVST/BTC trade in NVO.io, why not list it in other exchanges as well (there are many who actively lists new coins. Ex: Liqui, Cryptopia, HitBTC, Binance are few)

If NVO is equally interested in ICO investors and is confident to meet its promise, NVO should hold selling NVST until you release your DEX with few other coins to trade.



It won't be a decentralized exchange, and there won't fees, also you shouldn't forget that some investors invested to trade the token, it was just a small bonus, nothing more. It is not really a priority, regarding cryptopia, they refused to list NVST because they haven implemented Counterparty, however, Coinpayments will add NVST to their platform, they are synchronising the blockchain.
Regarding the price fluctuation, it is normal to get a dump, however, with the comming updates and the release of the wallet and DEX, the price will rise for sure.






I think that current NVO holders are quite happy to pick them up at low prices. I will be buying a bunch this weekend, once my funds arrive.

Is possible to buy this within counterwallet?
Do we need to buy XCP first to be able to buy NVO or it can be done directly with BTC?


buy xcp from rex, polo, bter ----)  transfer to counterwallet -----) buy NVST with your XCP (remember to have some little btc on counterwallet) ----) profit

I'd recommend staying away from Poloniex. Still waiting on a counterparty withdrawal I did 12+ hours ago. Usually my bitcoin withdrawals or even anything else I've done before has taken a normal 2-10 minutes. This is really strange. Also they withdrawal fee was horrendous. 0.2XCP for a withdrawal. I guess because it's based off of bitcoin transactions but still, why don't they just send it already!? I just want to load up on more NVST while it's cheap!


It is not because of Poloniex, as you may know the recent BCH pump rised the mining profitability, which draws more miners, i had a talk with Yani about it and apparently BCH retargets the difficulty very often which risesminers interests. Check the Bitcoin hashrate graph, you will see the reccuring drops, from 8kPh/s to 3-4kPh/s. It is a lack of hashrate who causes the transactions delay and high fees.






Cool to see already people wanna be listed on the exchange Smiley.
You dont have to ask NVO to list XBC you can list it later yourself due to plugin so the wallet/exchange have a plugin system where you yourself can write a plugin and voila your coin is listed just by yourself Smiley.


Effectively, you will be able to list the coin yourself with the plugin system, we will provide guidance in that field.





So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
New Website comes in the coming week Smiley.

if I'm not mistaken, the website is "coming in the next week" for like a month already...
So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
New Website comes in the coming week Smiley.

if I'm not mistaken, the website is "coming in the next week" for like a month already...
Not completly true, around 3 weeks ago they wanted to give us a new website its true but they communicated in slack that they didnt like the design and that they first concentrate on wallet and than website.
Wallet will be finished soon (i guess the real hard work is already done and now they are finetuning it) and so they started concentrating(hiring webdesigner or something dunno how they do it directly) on website, and told in slack that it will arrive coming week.
So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
New Website comes in the coming week Smiley.

if I'm not mistaken, the website is "coming in the next week" for like a month already...
Not completly true, around 3 weeks ago they wanted to give us a new website its true but they communicated in slack that they didnt like the design and that they first concentrate on wallet and than website.
Wallet will be finished soon (i guess the real hard work is already done and now they are finetuning it) and so they started concentrating(hiring webdesigner or something dunno how they do it directly) on website, and told in slack that it will arrive coming week.

But it looks like there is no dead line set for any of these things to achieve. Every time the answers will be like in two weeks or next month that's why many investors are not happy. I know these things are difficult but they should have a plan in mind and should clearly communicate to the investors.


We communicate a lot with the investors, i am here on bitcointalk, yani and ton on slack, sadly i am baned from safeforum. Regarding the website, it is not my first priority as the investors haven't invested into a nicely designed website, they invested on a multi wallet with a DEX.

Please don't consider the content, it is just place holders with random informations.
This is th website we were going to setup : https://marvelapp.com/30db75b/screen/30518707

However, we considered it was too crappy.

Here is the new one, as soon as we have time to allocate here, we will set it up, once again content is just a place holder : https://marvelapp.com/6985f4h/screen/31776322


sr. member
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Well I wouldn't mind if another dumper comes along because I am waiting for my buys to trigger. Cheesy
But I also have said before that it wouldn't be that much effort to update to roadmap and I don't see the point in not doing it, for the people that are not on slack.
klf
legendary
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So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
New Website comes in the coming week Smiley.

if I'm not mistaken, the website is "coming in the next week" for like a month already...
Not completly true, around 3 weeks ago they wanted to give us a new website its true but they communicated in slack that they didnt like the design and that they first concentrate on wallet and than website.
Wallet will be finished soon (i guess the real hard work is already done and now they are finetuning it) and so they started concentrating(hiring webdesigner or something dunno how they do it directly) on website, and told in slack that it will arrive coming week.

But it looks like there is no dead line set for any of these things to achieve. Every time the answers will be like in two weeks or next month that's why many investors are not happy. I know these things are difficult but they should have a plan in mind and should clearly communicate to the investors.
newbie
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So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
New Website comes in the coming week Smiley.

if I'm not mistaken, the website is "coming in the next week" for like a month already...
Not completly true, around 3 weeks ago they wanted to give us a new website its true but they communicated in slack that they didnt like the design and that they first concentrate on wallet and than website.
Wallet will be finished soon (i guess the real hard work is already done and now they are finetuning it) and so they started concentrating(hiring webdesigner or something dunno how they do it directly) on website, and told in slack that it will arrive coming week.
member
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So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
New Website comes in the coming week Smiley.

if I'm not mistaken, the website is "coming in the next week" for like a month already...
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 4
So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
New Website comes in the coming week Smiley.
newbie
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So it's now been months since the ICO ended, and *still* no update on the website?  Really? 
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 4

Cool to see already people wanna be listed on the exchange Smiley.
You dont have to ask NVO to list XBC you can list it later yourself due to plugin so the wallet/exchange have a plugin system where you yourself can write a plugin and voila your coin is listed just by yourself Smiley.
sr. member
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Edit: wow, it looks like that it is real news! Price surged 121%! Now at $0.58 Cheesy!

i am sorry to say this but the real price is  $0.36 because xcp is not at $21 (pumped by scammy BTER) is at $14.80 (REX and POLO)
sr. member
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good news from slack:


marto (dev)

wallet is on track, each time we update a coin into it, it have to be done on exchange too, i would have liked to deliver it now but nemgun insists on this point he says that it is better as we won't have to redo everything, it is supposed to work as a wrapper with the sidechain of nvsx


when this multicoin wallet will be released in the first half of september, NVST will go to alpha centauri
newbie
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https://image.ibb.co/ipmhgk/nvo.png

in the image you will see that on the counterparty blockchain the NVST token is not locked , meaning that more token can be created. From the ico page (nvo.io) all investor are thinking that the token supply is only going to be 15 million. Shouldn't the NVST token be lock from more token being created ,under locked it should be true.
legendary
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I think that current NVO holders are quite happy to pick them up at low prices. I will be buying a bunch this weekend, once my funds arrive.

Is possible to buy this within counterwallet?
Do we need to buy XCP first to be able to buy NVO or it can be done directly with BTC?


buy xcp from rex, polo, bter ----)  transfer to counterwallet -----) buy NVST with your XCP (remember to have some little btc on counterwallet) ----) profit

I'd recommend staying away from Poloniex. Still waiting on a counterparty withdrawal I did 12+ hours ago. Usually my bitcoin withdrawals or even anything else I've done before has taken a normal 2-10 minutes. This is really strange. Also they withdrawal fee was horrendous. 0.2XCP for a withdrawal. I guess because it's based off of bitcoin transactions but still, why don't they just send it already!? I just want to load up on more NVST while it's cheap!
sr. member
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The exchanges are actually on a weired situation, most of them are aware of the SEC and the different US regulations, remember what recently happened to BTC-E, even if it haven't started from the SEC at least, they reached them outside borders.
I believe this is why Bitfinex is now refusing US customers. There are more regulations every day, different countries are trying or starting to regulate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies markets, this is a serious limitation for exchange listing. Even the ethereum tokens are under regulation threat.



Thats the reason why we need a decentralized exchanges.


We are in the wonderful situation now that we have the right tools to counter restrictive policies. Thanks to Nakamoto, we can circumvent most of the stuff that is limiting our freedom in a reasonable way. I am not saying we should go nuts, but policy makers will have to recognize sooner or later that the world changed. And the more they restrict us from actually doing quite normal things, the more we will push with our financial means to achieve the opposite of what they try to achieve. I like crypto guys. I am all for tax, it is important to keep public infrastructure alive. But I can't see the reason why the US should crack down so hard on ICOs. There need to be rules, but they have to be in line with the present and the future, not the past.

I agree with most of what you say, especially regarding tax collections to maintain the infrastructures, this is one of the most important points forgotten by most of the decentralization supporters, how will the infrastructures be maintained.
The US will crack down because somewhere, the crypto community failed in educating the new comers, who get scammed by ICO operators, this lack of education about cryptocurrencies and the basics of cryptocurrencies left a wide open door to manipulation.







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It depends of what you understand from Decentralization, or are you talking about us physically, in person ?

Yes, recently the US has been coming down hard on anyone running an exchange or even selling too many coins on localbitcoins. You'll have to avoid authoritarian countries if you operate a decentralized exchange.


If it was a centralized operation, then i agree with you, but in this case, the operations are decentralized, which means that every operation is under the responsibility of the ordinator, the user or Peer. If they target project initiators then it is a real bad news for US citizens and decentralization convicted users. I just wonder how the US will try to regulate the decentralized projects.






If it was just about paying to get listed, NVST would have already been listed in different exchanges. It is not about the fact of been listed, it is about the quality, the volume, the reputation, all these aspects have to be taken in count in order to provide the best access possible and a good protection agains manipulations. Even if exchanges like bittrex and poloniex doesn't really offers a protection against pump&dump, they are widely used which is a good counter weight.


Hello.

I have to inform you that this 2 are US based exchanges and they lately introduced some shitty
withdrawal policies and limits.
They also ask people to identify.

Also poloniex grew faster that it can sustain now i see lot of people complaining about their support.
They need weeks to solve simple problems and to answer to a submitted ticket.

DO not waste time with exchanges.
Is better that you focus your time and resources on the NVO development.



PEOPLE you loose control over your funds if you deposit on a centralized exchange.
They become owners of your BTC, LTC  ....
They can impose silly policies and block your withdrawals.




That's what we are doing, we sent the demands and won't waste more time and energy on it, if they agree, so be it, else, we have to wait.
Regarding the ownership of the cryptocurrency accounts, you shouldn't forget that it is not limited to exchanges only, but all the service providers and third party services have the same limitations, as long as you don't own the private key of an address, or the seed of a wallet, it is not yours.






Yeah, the most important is to do your best to offer what you promised to the investors, we really expect something great and your preview wallet video looks promising.
Then you can work about exchanges and advertising, but now it is more a waste of time, and maybe pointless if there is an official NVST/BTC exchange in NVO. I am disappointed that the price harshly fell, but people who invested in NVO should have done it because they believe in this project and should trust the devs and hold NVST at least until the exchange is ready. If the work was as expected, the price will naturally skyrocket on its own and we can all profit.

However, even though you should put every effort possible in the development, you should also be more active in the communication domain. Please... The website have never been updated since the end of crowdsale, and you repeated many times that there will be a new website soon, but where is it? Official communication on Reddit is rare. Only Nemgun is active on BitcoinTalk. Don't let your investors lose truth because of that and sell their NVST in consequence. Or do you actually have something to hide? Are you actually very late in the development but don't want to admit this? Without proper communication, we can believe everything.


Wise words, especially the first paragraph, i appreciate your point of view as it matches my own.
You are right about communication, however, i already said multiple times that i don't like other social medias, i feel a lot better in Bitcointalk, writing interesting posts and keeping them for future reference. Yani and Ton are active on slack, Yani is always talking with people on slack providing support and guidance.
Regarding the possible delays, we said that we will wait for safenet, and as promised, we will wait, meanwhile we check the different alternative options. Also, we don't want to have a competitive clone of NVO at the release while we haven't even been listed, this is why we are wating for patenting the project, it will still be open source, the reproduction will be limited, it will also bring a market advantage to NVO.
It is easy to fork a project on github or any other platform, it have to be taken in count.

Very true, but then again SCAMS happen all over, not only in crypto. And it is not like every single space or branch gets shut down because of scams happening in that environment. But again, I have to agree with you in that scammers are all over trying to benefit from all the advantages crypto brings about in a very bad way. Too sad...
sr. member
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These tokens cost approx $.50 and $0.240754 is the price on counterparty.Bottom feeders are going to be like bounty coin holders dumping these when it hits an exchange.Anyone here want to sell at that price?
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