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sr. member
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they already have an exchange set up from a previous privately held project that never launched (they saw the benefit of a decentralized exchange over building another centralized one and stopped work on it to start development of the fully decentralized NVO instead) - not sure how ready-for-prime-time it is, but if it's almost complete, why not? And at this point I think there's a philosophical aversion to paying someone to list the token...I mean, why pay someone to list it if they're already going to take fees?
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Effectively counterparty is slow but at least it decentralized and that's what i appreciate in counterparty.
About all these questions related to exchanges, we don't want to list the token on a "shitex", and the big exchanges are too busy with BCH and the regulations.

I am thinking about making a small exchange for NVST/BTC on the website untill NVO is ready. Will talk about that will Yani and Ton

Nemgum. Instead of redirecting your valuable attention away from developing the NVO Dex, why not just pay the 1 BTC to NovaExchange and have NVST listed quickly without the voting process. Nova is a small exchange but easy to use. At least this way people who want to dump NVST can and the rest of us who want to get more can buy at a better price.

https://novaexchange.com/addcoin/

Your thoughts?
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I have to react to some posts.

First, Counterparty DEX is not "horrendous". Slow speed and high transaction fees make it unwieldy. Not good for active trading. But it is safe to buy or sell tokens there and safe to "leave" your funds there.

Second, no dex can ever fully compete with centralized exchanges in user experience. There is a trade off between ease of use and safety/freedom. Projects that promise everything simply lie.

Third, people who do not care about decentralization should not hold nvo tokens. It makes no sense as an investment. Except very short term

last, it is disgusting to see people begging to be listed on some shitEX.  Any shit is good enough to pump quickly and exit. Yes, you bought on horrendous Counterparty 50% below ICO price, now it is time for a  quick shitEX pump
 

Effectively counterparty is slow but at least it decentralized and that's what i appreciate in counterparty.
About all these questions related to exchanges, we don't want to list the token on a "shitex", and the big exchanges are too busy with BCH and the regulations.
I am thinking about making a small exchange for NVST/BTC on the website untill NVO is ready. Will talk about that will Yani and Ton.





interested in this. but worried about it being for Safe network which it seems unclear if will ever be ready tho? strange decision

They are not working with Safe network anymore. The team has decided to go their own way.

We have already announced that we will stick to our engagements, we said that we will wait to get a final decision about safenet as they still have 3 months. If safenet isn't ready, we will have to go with a different technology as we can't delay the investors, people invested in NVO, not safenet.







The exchanges are actually on a weired situation, most of them are aware of the SEC and the different US regulations, remember what recently happened to BTC-E, even if it haven't started from the SEC at least, they reached them outside borders.
I believe this is why Bitfinex is now refusing US customers. There are more regulations every day, different countries are trying or starting to regulate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies markets, this is a serious limitation for exchange listing. Even the ethereum tokens are under regulation threat.


I think you're in a situation where you can offer service to anyone. A public blockchain app, is it even possible to deny service based on country? Since NVO will be 256 bit encrypted and cold storage client side based, you just have to keep out of countries that want to charge you for running the exchange. As long as your host country is fine with it.

As long as bitcoin is used in X country, NVO will be available, it works the same way.
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interested in this. but worried about it being for Safe network which it seems unclear if will ever be ready tho? strange decision

They are not working with Safe network anymore. The team has decided to go their own way.
sr. member
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interested in this. but worried about it being for Safe network which it seems unclear if will ever be ready tho? strange decision
sr. member
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I have to react to some posts.

First, Counterparty DEX is not "horrendous". Slow speed and high transaction fees make it unwieldy. Not good for active trading. But it is safe to buy or sell tokens there and safe to "leave" your funds there.

Second, no dex can ever fully compete with centralized exchanges in user experience. There is a trade off between ease of use and safety/freedom. Projects that promise everything simply lie.

Third, people who do not care about decentralization should not hold nvo tokens. It makes no sense as an investment. Except very short term

last, it is disgusting to see people begging to be listed on some shitEX.  Any shit is good enough to pump quickly and exit. Yes, you bought on horrendous Counterparty 50% below ICO price, now it is time for a  quick shitEX pump
  
sr. member
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The exchanges are actually on a weired situation, most of them are aware of the SEC and the different US regulations, remember what recently happened to BTC-E, even if it haven't started from the SEC at least, they reached them outside borders.
I believe this is why Bitfinex is now refusing US customers. There are more regulations every day, different countries are trying or starting to regulate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies markets, this is a serious limitation for exchange listing. Even the ethereum tokens are under regulation threat.


I think you're in a situation where you can offer service to anyone. A public blockchain app, is it even possible to deny service based on country? Since NVO will be 256 bit encrypted and cold storage client side based, you just have to keep out of countries that want to charge you for running the exchange. As long as your host country is fine with it.
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The exchanges are actually on a weired situation, most of them are aware of the SEC and the different US regulations, remember what recently happened to BTC-E, even if it haven't started from the SEC at least, they reached them outside borders.
I believe this is why Bitfinex is now refusing US customers. There are more regulations every day, different countries are trying or starting to regulate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies markets, this is a serious limitation for exchange listing. Even the ethereum tokens are under regulation threat.



Thats the reason why we need a decentralized exchanges.
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@nemgun Is there anything we can do to get Bittrex to move along? It could be they are afraid of decentralized exchanges, they may just be excluding NVO.
@nemgun Is there anything we can do to get Bittrex to move along? It could be they are afraid of decentralized exchanges, they may just be excluding NVO.

Listing on Bittrex is very hard now after the SEC ruling, because they're based in the US. But there are other big exchanges which are based in other countries they could contact.
There are other alternative exchange to Bittrex. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/
I'd honestly like to buy more NVST but I won't sweep my private key to Counterparty. Any decent exchange would work, then I can just send more NVST to my original BTC address.

Bitfinex is non-US based. Kraken is San Francisco based I believe. Despite the fact that their main market is the EU.
There are other alternative exchange to Bittrex. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/


I mean at this point, anything is better than this horrendous counterparty, even medium sized ones; livecoin, hitbtc, nova ...etc
I'd honestly like to buy more NVST but I won't sweep my private key to Counterparty. Any decent exchange would work, then I can just send more NVST to my original BTC address.

Bitfinex is non-US based. Kraken is San Francisco based I believe. Despite the fact that their main market is the EU.

You don't have to sweep to buy with counterparty. I bought some XCP in another exchange, made a new account with counterparty and sent them there, then bought and sent them to my original BTC address. Most convoluted process I ever had to go through just to buy some tokens lol


The exchanges are actually on a weired situation, most of them are aware of the SEC and the different US regulations, remember what recently happened to BTC-E, even if it haven't started from the SEC at least, they reached them outside borders.
I believe this is why Bitfinex is now refusing US customers. There are more regulations every day, different countries are trying or starting to regulate bitcoin and cryptocurrencies markets, this is a serious limitation for exchange listing. Even the ethereum tokens are under regulation threat.




Who should i contact in order to help me with nvo ?
Use this thread or their Slack team.

However when i look into that address from blockchain i the red text address cant be decoded
https://blockchain.info/address/164brACZzdB6EdYUsz34wXbjwUujo7ueVs

Im wondering if i totally messed up and lost both my eth and nvo coins :S
You are looking at the wrong blockchain explorer. The traditional ones can't really see what is going on. Take a look at the counterparty explorer, i.e. there you will see your tokens: https://xchain.io/address/164brACZzdB6EdYUsz34wXbjwUujo7ueVs.

Thank you for your quick reply.
How do i access this NVST coins  ?
I dont seem to have a specific wallet or special personal key so i can move around those coins, i think i messed up on the crowdsale and give a bitcoin address that i dont seem to find personally.

However i have saved the private key from the NVO crowdsale site, does this mean i can acess my coins somehow?


Please send me a PM with your issue, i will guide you.




For the updates, i made a small preview video about the wallet, expect more from next week.
https://youtu.be/Tgb5Z1Zb5OM
sr. member
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Hi dev any updates not seen much recently?
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The Alt Whisperer
Theres so many i think i will focus on 0x instead. The whole concept seems like it might pop first.
newbie
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They have 7 million usd and more from bitcoin crash shitcoin to do whatever they want and cant even bribe shittrex for a listing.Shittrex and livecoin will list any shitcoin for 3btc or 10k usd.FACT!
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There are other alternative exchange to Bittrex. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/

Binance is the exchange to get listed on. It was just announced that OpenAnx, another decentralized exchange, is going to be listed on there and it tripled in one day and still going up. Every crypto that announced that they will be listed on Binance has at least tripled. Why bother with Bittrex, when there's Binance?
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Who should i contact in order to help me with nvo ?
Use this thread or their Slack team.

However when i look into that address from blockchain i the red text address cant be decoded
https://blockchain.info/address/164brACZzdB6EdYUsz34wXbjwUujo7ueVs

Im wondering if i totally messed up and lost both my eth and nvo coins :S
You are looking at the wrong blockchain explorer. The traditional ones can't really see what is going on. Take a look at the counterparty explorer, i.e. there you will see your tokens: https://xchain.io/address/164brACZzdB6EdYUsz34wXbjwUujo7ueVs.

Thank you for your quick reply.
How do i access this NVST coins  ?
I dont seem to have a specific wallet or special personal key so i can move around those coins, i think i messed up on the crowdsale and give a bitcoin address that i dont seem to find personally.

However i have saved the private key from the NVO crowdsale site, does this mean i can acess my coins somehow?
legendary
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Terminated.
Who should i contact in order to help me with nvo ?
Use this thread or their Slack team.

However when i look into that address from blockchain i the red text address cant be decoded
https://blockchain.info/address/164brACZzdB6EdYUsz34wXbjwUujo7ueVs

Im wondering if i totally messed up and lost both my eth and nvo coins :S
You are looking at the wrong blockchain explorer. The traditional ones can't really see what is going on. Take a look at the counterparty explorer, i.e. there you will see your tokens: https://xchain.io/address/164brACZzdB6EdYUsz34wXbjwUujo7ueVs.
newbie
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Who should i contact in order to help me with nvo ?

I participated in the crowdsale and sent a amount of ca 1 etherum.
I have put ni my personal bitcoin address at https://nvo.io/dashboard.php.

However when i look into that address from blockchain i the red text address cant be decoded
https://blockchain.info/address/164brACZzdB6EdYUsz34wXbjwUujo7ueVs

Im wondering if i totally messed up and lost both my eth and nvo coins :S
legendary
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Terminated.
https://xchain.io/asset/NVST#mempool
many unconfirmed transactions....
There seems to be a backlog ATM, take a look here: https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin.

what to do there? they will expire automatically? or they will be confirmed next days?
Either it confirms or it starts dropping from various mempools (*expire* is kind of improper wording). After some time, if they don't succeed you can attempt to create a new transaction. Alternatively, you can try boosting them using VIA accelerator (et. al.).
sr. member
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@nemgun Is there anything we can do to get Bittrex to move along? It could be they are afraid of decentralized exchanges, they may just be excluding NVO.

I think that has already happened in the past. Not sure why they would be incentivized to provide a DEX token with liquidity. I fear they won't.
hero member
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https://xchain.io/asset/NVST#mempool



many unconfirmed transactions....

what to do there? they will expire automatically? or they will be confirmed next days?
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