Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1499. (Read 9723832 times)

Troll update!  Everyone can rest easy now... I've found our list of pet trolls,  running a mack on bitcoin talk... Starting numerous DASH inspired threads.  I knew they couldn't leave us!  

I don't like that double deposit escrow model where the buyer has to send double the amount and the seller the goods plus the value, I simply don't think that is commercially practical. Would love to be proved wrong but I know I would not use a service where I have to send double the value of the item I want to buy. I wonder if others find it viable?

Why not just open a micro payment channel both ways and and trade microbits until you reach the desired value?

Last on this topic:

Check here: https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/3vc3au/cryptsy_is_starting_to_smell_real_bad

See the reference to bitebi9 being Cryptsy owned? I asked the guy. He claims that Cryptsy just emailed him to the effect that bitebi9 is owned by Cryptsy. Mysteriouser and mysteriouser!

Mark

tx qwizzie
good tip back there 
i check it out

that would explain a lot  

Vice Motherboard proved that the PGP keys listed are faked. I'm very dubious at this point.

P.S. I have a theory that all the trolleros are actually just one person with 15 different sock puppets, and his internet is out due to bad weather.

Thanks, tungfa. Feel free to PM me if you find anything interesting.

And: any Australians here? My mob are active long-timer Oz krypto geeks. PM me.

And Merry and Happy to all Dash folk. 2016 'z gonna be a splendid year for us all.

Mark

Yeah I was missing something, thanks 
Now gotta read some code 

yeah, we discussed it yesterday in here i think. Gizmodo has the most details on the story.
Weird thing is that Craig Wright has been soo long out of view and suddenly turns out to be
an early Bitcoin miner, has shitload of money, has a supercomputer ranking 15 in the top 500 list
and is currently in Iceland to build an even better super computer. Appearently he was using his super computer
to calculate Bitcoin scaling solutions and mentions something about an upcoming paper. Very strange all.  

http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692


That Bitcoin conference video is interesting to watch in above link.... funny thing is that the woman leading that panel has absolutely no clue who he is

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/

this article has less details, reads more like a scandal article.

Christ, those Craig Wright stories are all over the press, hadn't looked at the news alerts for a while and it's practically the only thing mentioned. Maybe too much tinfoil but it makes me suspicious when the press are so eager with a Bitcoin piece :/

That'd be a lot more efficient use of space, you could probably fit a whole supermarket in a two or three storey cornershop And get them delivered to your door, there was a lot of discussion on a distributed courier network a few years back and it still comes up from time to time. I'm sure there's something there with multisig and GPS data and it opens up a whole new industry, especially for the last-mile deliveries as they're really inefficient for the big carriers.

NFC labels need to be big enough for an antenna to pickup a signal and transmit it back.  There is a lot to these so it isn't going to be 0.01 cents anytime soon.  (Yeah for costlier items this would work well)  You need to scan a upc now, just do it with your phone.  Later a cart with scanners all over could pickup whatever you put in it.  Or just make the entire store a vending machine, send it your list and it uses air tubes to get your stuff and spit it into your trunk.

And then we call the store Dashco.  Only accept fungible currency Dash or cash.   

Load-sensitive shelves could work there too and would double up for checking the inventory is in the right place, add NFC and you can just pick up what you want and walk out the door. Scales and NFC at the door and it's double-checked and the hardware is all fairly cheap.

EDIT: NFC labelling can be pretty close to disposable prices too, certainly good for things over about $10. I think it's used a lot in some areas but I've never come across anything on the shelves here.

These guys are all not understanding what is possible or wanted.  No one wants to wait at the register so lets skip the register.  You can't do this with a credit card that will cost $.25/per item paid.  You can't do it with bitcoin - too slow.  Dash with IX is needed to make it all work.

Just scan the products with your phone and buy with a Dash app as you add them to your cart.  Gee who wouldn't want to gain 10% of a stores footprint that is currently registers.  How much infrastructure would be saved with this.  Do you really need to empty your cart to load it again, duh.  It might put a few register/bagging people out of work, oops.  Maybe the cart has a scale and confirms weight and what is paid via blockchain before you leave and sets off a manual check if it isn't right.  Or maybe you just run your cart over a scale.

Just as if it came from Toknormal's mouth, LOL, and I'm very glad to hear this because indeed, it is what separates Dash from the crowd, and why I prefer this solution.

i think we were all talking about the SPV client here ? (the darkwallet that is being molded into a Dash SPV client currently by Evan ? the so called prototype design that will eventually become part of the third tier ?)  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13199478

I surely need to give this some more thought but I have some reservations on implementing chat and social network (likes / reputation) in the core. LocalDash makes a lot of sense but should not live in the core, it should be like a special SPV client that anyone can use and just takes advantage of the 2nd tier through the DAPI. DAPI would basically implement associations of entities with wallets, those entities could be anything, aliases, contacts, reputation, messages, fiat-dash transactions, etc  

We will see and I'm sure it will be massive  

http://gizmodo.com/you-can-now-pay-at-wal-mart-using-your-mobile-1747267405

We're getting there. In the last year, we have seen Apple Pay, Samsung Pay, Android Pay, Google Wallet, and now Walmart Pay. All these companies are blazing the trail for us by getting people interested in paying with mobile. Pretty soon there will be so damn many "Pay" apps that people are going to be looking for a single, cross-platform (and cross-merchant) app: like Dash.

This is possible, but if it is linked to a person doing the exchange the gov't will cry for KYC stuff.  So decentralized is the way to go.  Reputation system means identities, possible attack vectors.

The openbazzar model may work.  With selling a good the seller sends 1x the transaction amount and buyer sends 2x the transaction amount.  If the product ships and is acceptable the buyer gets 1x back and seller gets 2x back.  If not successful buyer gets the 1x back and the remaining goes to a dispute.  Both buyer and seller risk the same amount(2x product cost or 1x + product) and are motivated to complete the sale.

With an exchange, maybe the Dash seller puts up 2x and buyer puts up 1x the transaction in Dash in escrow.  The buyer sends 1x in fiat(or says he does).  Once the fiat clears 1x from the seller is sent to the buyer and the buyer gets the 1x in Dash escrow back.  The seller also gets his remaining 1x back.  If the buyer doesn't send the fiat transaction, the seller gets the 1.5x back and the buyer get .5x back in Dash.  1x of the escrow goes into resolution that both buyer and seller need to come to an agreement before it is released.  If no agreement both lose .5x of the transaction.  Honesty works best when there is an economic incentive for both parties.  A rating system in this type of transaction is irrelevant.