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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 5006. (Read 9724017 times)

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maybe its just me but recently ive been feeling really bitter towards most p&d pro's (not u) they like drug dealers taking money of noobs, selling them bags(of coins,lol) giving them brief happiness then a heavy comedown,dealers keep making the money while noobs keep going back for another bag.

anyway, you going to be first troll on ignore list coz u r simply....boring

I hear you brother, the last 6-9 months as a casual miner and now a full-time miner have been a real baptism of fire...

After I got scammed a few times by rather sophisticated pump teams, and after I went through the initial stage of denial, a rage started brewing which made me want to become a whale myself and make it my life's mission to crush these scammers...

You come into Crypto with such ideals and optimism, the principal of it is such a good solution to the existing financial system of credit and slavery.

The real problem I had, I could afford to lose 5-10 BTC on scams, but most people can't and I'm sure I'm not the only one that started mining Crypto with some hope of a financial revolution one day in the future.

Eventually the rage turns into a numbness of some sort and you realise Crypto is like every other avenue in life, there are honest and dishonest people no matter what you do.

Luckily, I discovered DRK soon enough and all my losses are repaid tenfold, plus I'm learning to surf the scam waves to put money back into real currencies like DRK.


Still though, it still leaves me with the thoughts that if I'm the NSA, CIA, Central Bank or whomever might feel threatened by Crypto one day, I'd be saying to myself "Heh, we got nothing to worry about, these mother fuckers are gonna wipe each other out..."



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First thing, whoever told you that POW was finished for this coin was LYING. Next time, you should go to a different source for your crypto info or do your own research. In the worse case, there is still about 70% (read that again -- 70%) of DRK that remains to be mined. Could be more available depending on hashrate. Miners will get 80% of these. Sorry this is not some early adopter scheme like the 1 week POW then 100% POS coins. If DRK is a early adopter scheme then so is Bitcoin. Roll Eyes


Well i'm glad that it isn't true. To be honest i read it in the trollbox, and didn't necessarily treat it as fact, as the poster was promoting BC at the time. Come release of Darksend i'll have a look at the source. Who knows, i might become a Darkcoin miner/enthusiast yet!!

As for the rest of your post, well.... you sound like one of the "Bitcoin is perfect and nothing can be to improve it" types. I don't know if Darksend will stand the test of time, but I do know that to call it a illusion before it's full release is very short-sighted.  

Not at all. I love bitcoin, its the standard, but i also love and embrace all tech as whole. I'm also fairly adept with the inherent insecurity of the internet, so when i hear about things like "DarkSend" and "100% Anonymous Crypto" the bullshit alarm in my brain starts ringing.

Again, just to reiterate on the piece of my post you didn't address, I do not like the decentralized nature of the Masternode setup at Darkcoin, BUT , many coins have a centralized aspect, such as checkpointing servers in some POS coins. the way i see it, masternodes and checkpoint servers may be a necessary evil. So all in all i guess the Masternode setup isn't a big deal, so long as it offers no unfair disadvantage to common miners.

At this point, the only other thing i might complain about, is Darksend, but i don't know enough about it, and haven't read the code to make a reasonable quantification about the pros and cons. For now, i will "crawl back in my hole" and continue to observe from a distance. If i see something awesome, i'll be the first one here to praise it. if i see something wrong, i'll be the first one here to denounce its usefulness.

Fair?

That's fair. Admittedly my post was probably a bit harsh.

As for masternodes, I think it is going overboard to call them centralized as we already have nearly 500. Is it 500 different people? No, but it is also not a handful of parties having control. Masternodes where chosen as a "meeting halfway" type of solution between something like ring sigs (which have blockchain bloating among other technical challenges) and being at the mercy of DOS attacks which is a risk if you use blind signing. The purpose of masternodes is to moderate Darksend transactions and to punish any bad actors -- and I am sure you know that there is no shortage of bad actors in the crypto space. Masternodes can also be used for things like hosting the blockchain down the road. In short, I don't think they are as bad as they seem.

Briefly on checkpointing, there was a discussion about using an auto-checkpoint server for DRK, but that was scraped. Now the checkpoints will only be used if we have more forking issues as that will help the prevention of panic (exchanges on wrong blockchains,etc) we've had in the past.
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i download

Release Candidates (v0.10.11.5)
http://www.darkcoin.io/getstarted.html


user this guide.
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkSendDocumentation.pdf


but  everytime, i send drk with darksend it shows error.

"darkSend Status => Your transaction was accepted into the pool!"
"darkSend Status => ( Entries 1/3 )"
then
"darkSend Status => idle"


anyone can help me out?
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Can I ask on which pool all people are mining?Anyone had problems with drk.coinmine.pl? Can I trust this pool?
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always the student, never the master.

First thing, whoever told you that POW was finished for this coin was LYING. Next time, you should go to a different source for your crypto info or do your own research. In the worse case, there is still about 70% (read that again -- 70%) of DRK that remains to be mined. Could be more available depending on hashrate. Miners will get 80% of these. Sorry this is not some early adopter scheme like the 1 week POW then 100% POS coins. If DRK is a early adopter scheme then so is Bitcoin. Roll Eyes


Well i'm glad that it isn't true. To be honest i read it in the trollbox, and didn't necessarily treat it as fact, as the poster was promoting BC at the time. Come release of Darksend i'll have a look at the source. Who knows, i might become a Darkcoin miner/enthusiast yet!!

As for the rest of your post, well.... you sound like one of the "Bitcoin is perfect and nothing can be to improve it" types. I don't know if Darksend will stand the test of time, but I do know that to call it a illusion before it's full release is very short-sighted.  

Not at all. I love bitcoin, its the standard, but i also love and embrace all tech as whole. I'm also fairly adept with the inherent insecurity of the internet, so when i hear about things like "DarkSend" and "100% Anonymous Crypto" the bullshit alarm in my brain starts ringing.

Again, just to reiterate on the piece of my post you didn't address, I do not like the centralized nature of the Masternode setup at Darkcoin, BUT , many coins have a centralized aspect, such as checkpointing servers in some POS coins. the way i see it, masternodes and checkpoint servers may be a necessary evil. So all in all i guess the Masternode setup isn't a big deal, so long as it offers no unfair disadvantage to common miners.

At this point, the only other thing i might complain about, is Darksend, but i don't know enough about it, and haven't read the code to make a reasonable quantification about the pros and cons. For now, i will "crawl back in my hole" and continue to observe from a distance. If i see something awesome, i'll be the first one here to praise it. if i see something wrong, i'll be the first one here to denounce its usefulness.

Fair?
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Hey guys!

I have some graphic cards and i want sale with DRK.

16 pcs sapphire HD6970 (477 Kh/s - 435 W) - 7,5 DRK + shipping cost.
2 pcs sapphire R9 290 (804 Kh/s - 550 W) - 23 DRK + shipping cost.
6 pcs sapphire HD 7850 (317 Kh/s - 174 W) - 4 DRK + shipping cost.

Note: Kh/s and Watt valued written for scrypt.

Details & Pictures: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6184882

If possible, I'm happy to accept Escrow and some another trust system for this sale...


damm ....if we had only darkcoins to buy but can you just donate 1 card to us for our project * ? that would be awesome !;-) our wallets is still empty with darkcoins ;-( bah
wen does xpool.ca pays out x11 protocol ? we have arround 7600 confirmed ?? still nothing recieved ?

* project see first link in my signature ;-)

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Blah

With all due respect, from what I recall of you in the securities forum, you're not a very savvy investor. All of your objections and protestations are off base or irrelevant with regard to the future of DRK. You're knee deep in the bullshit that no one will remember and focusing on the wrong things. Oh well.
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It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source


Only Darksend is closed source. Every other aspect of the coin is open and there is even a separate version that can be built from the source for those that will not use closed source software.

If that still bothers you then wait. Darksend will be open-sourced as well -- likely in August.

Its not the only thing that bothers me. i've also heard that Proof Of Work has ended on this coin. I feel like most of the coins that have adopted this model are early adopter schemes. I'm not accusing dark of being an early adopter scheme, but it just doesn't sit right with me, especially at current prices.I also dislike the centralized nature and obvious unfair advantages it gives the Development team. i think that Darkcoin is fools gold, just like primecoin was when it was released. fools gold, offering the illusion of worth with no tangible benefit, but i'll tell you this much: Darkcoin is the shiniest of all the turds in this punchbowl we call Altcoins.

First thing, whoever told you that POW was finished for this coin was LYING. Next time, you should go to a different source for your crypto info or do your own research. In the worse case, there is still about 70% (read that again -- 70%) of DRK that remains to be mined. Could be more available depending on hashrate. Miners will get 80% of these. Sorry this is not some early adopter scheme like the 1 week POW then 100% POS coins. If DRK is a early adopter scheme then so is Bitcoin. Roll Eyes

As for the rest of your post, well.... you sound like one of the "Bitcoin is perfect and nothing can be to improve it" types. I don't know if Darksend will stand the test of time, but I do know that to call it a illusion before its full release is very short-sighted.  
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Na Zdorovie!
Hey guys!

I have some graphic cards and i want sale with DRK.

16 pcs sapphire HD6970 (477 Kh/s - 435 W) - 7,5 DRK + shipping cost.
2 pcs sapphire R9 290 (804 Kh/s - 550 W) - 23 DRK + shipping cost.
6 pcs sapphire HD 7850 (317 Kh/s - 174 W) - 4 DRK + shipping cost.

Note: Kh/s and Watt valued written for scrypt.

Details & Pictures: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6184882

If possible, I'm happy to accept Escrow and some another trust system for this sale...
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Evan made a choice to devote time to DRK - 2 years - we only have about 1.4 years left folks - maybe he'll renew that contract :-P

Thing is - you'n's need to, as requested by others, to stop re-posting fudders and trolls - over look them - take a higher ground.

...

I'm sure that Satoshi Nakamoto had some issues in the beginning when he first came up with the idea of the block-chain.
But nobody was really watching.
Nobody noticed him.
Nobody cared....

He wrote the code and gave it a try......
I'm sure he failed a few times before figuring out how to make it work on a testnet.

Trail and error is all part of development.
People that think that DRK is suppose to work right out of the box like a new toy, has no clue what development means.

This isn't some kind of a movie where the alleged impossible just happens.
Harry Potter is not gonna wave a magic wand.....

Development takes time - not days or weeks - but months and sometimes years.


Satoshi started development of Bitcoin in 2007, two years in secret before first announcing the white paper and then the code afterwards on a widely watched forum (mailing list).

Satoshi made sure Bitcoin worked very well before releasing it. In it's five years since there have only been a couple of major bugs. Darkcoin has had more bugs and errors in several months than Bitcoin had in five years, I find this outstanding considering most of Darkcoin's code is simply Bitcoin code.

Satoshi was very responsible regarding Bitcoin's release and stability in the early days, something that Evan just doesn't care about at all.

My problem with Darkcoin is that Evan is worshipped like a god here, even though he has made many major mistakes. The first mistake was the coin release in the beginning, he should have restarted the project at that point but he didn't care to. Satoshi probably ended up leaving the Bitcoin project because he released the danger of dev worship, the last thing Satoshi wanted was to turn Bitcoin into a cult with him as the leader. Thankfully we can see how it would have turned out, see Darkcoin. Evan is the Satoshi Jesus, half of the people in this thread think that Evan is going to "conclude" Satoshi's grand cryptocoin experiment. Needless to say the amount of "cult" in this thread is disturbing.

Another issue many people have is that the coinjoin concept is deeply flawed and the inventor of coinjoin doesn't even like it anymore. (In comparison to more recent alternatives)
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It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source
Only Darksend is closed source. Every other aspect of the coin is open and there is even a separate version that can be built from the source for those that will not use closed source software.
If that still bothers you then wait. Darksend will be open-sourced as well -- likely in August.
Its not the only thing that bothers me. i've also heard that Proof Of Work has ended on this coin. I feel like most of the coins that have adopted this model are early adopter schemes. I'm not accusing dark of being an early adopter scheme, but it just doesn't sit right with me, especially at current prices.I also dislike the centralized nature and obvious unfair advantages it gives the Development team. i think that Darkcoin is fools gold, just like primecoin was when it was released. fools gold, offering the illusion of worth with no tangible benefit, but i'll tell you this much: Darkcoin is the shiniest of all the turds in this punchbowl we call Altcoins.
Darkcoin is, and will be PoW for years to come.
Darksend is going to be open sourced after audit.
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always the student, never the master.
It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source


Only Darksend is closed source. Every other aspect of the coin is open and there is even a separate version that can be built from the source for those that will not use closed source software.

If that still bothers you then wait. Darksend will be open-sourced as well -- likely in August.

Its not the only thing that bothers me. i've also heard that Proof Of Work has ended on this coin. I feel like most of the coins that have adopted this model are early adopter schemes. I'm not accusing dark of being an early adopter scheme, but it just doesn't sit right with me, especially at current prices.I also dislike the centralized nature and obvious unfair advantages it gives the Development team. i think that Darkcoin is fools gold, just like primecoin was when it was released. fools gold, offering the illusion of worth with no tangible benefit, but i'll tell you this much: Darkcoin is the shiniest of all the turds in this punchbowl we call Altcoins.
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damn - I forgot to remove the troll/fud stuff
next time - lol
I'm a work in progress - LOL

Just edit man.
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PoS
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If you can be anything, be kind and fair
who dump ?why dump dark? Huh
No one likes a king-peasant set-up.
The masters sitting on there fat asses and get payed endless free darks with there 50 or more masternotes. The peasant can fork out hard earned cash to buy into it. Servants revolting and moving to Vericoin or other coins and become masters themselves. Dark is old tech.
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It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source


Only Darksend is closed source. Every other aspect of the coin is open and there is even a separate version that can be built from the source for those that will not use closed source software.

If that still bothers you then wait. Darksend will be open-sourced as well -- likely in August.
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Thanks Chaeplin.  Smiley.  Seems like SV01 to 5 is picking up different MN status to official?

Yes.
official provides only ip address of active NM.
sv01 ~ sv05 collect all info and use pubkey as key.

Are SV01 to 5 on 10.11.5?

V0.9.11.5.

First table has.

http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html

ahh, thanks. I missed the version number. Any ideas why sv01 to 5 showing some MNs as inactive?

1) sorting by ip
Same ip, pubkey changed.



2) sorting by lastseen(minutes)
NM ping not received with in 30 mins.


3) lastseen and active minutes
lastseen : max timestamp (sv01 ~ sv05) : timestamp of recent ping received
active    : max time (sv01 ~ sv05)

sv01 - sv03 not received ping. not sure.
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It bothers me that its closed source. Its not a real crypto until its open source
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