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2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.


And numbers are tied to real world events:

Bitcoin has lost almost 30% of it's value in that same time - that is the reason for the 40% drop in DRK/USD value. There are fewer fiat exchanges, so the USD/DRK is really USD/BTC -> BTC/DRK

The last (admittedly low volume) transactions for fiat on Prelude.io have USD/DRK at .95 USD/ 1 DRK. If the value of DRK could free-float against USD, it would likely have stayed the same. It is still in the .0013 range against BTC - a statistically insignificant change.

The coin supply decrease was intentional, not a market response. It means nothing in an economic sense except that the decision was made to further limit the number of coins created. Please explain why that is relevant.

the DRK hash rate varies widely. Over the last 24 hours, it has been as high as 19GH/s (drk.poolhash.org/poolhash.html) It has been steadily growing, and the fluctuation in block to block hash rate is an intentional design element by the developers. Please explain why this concerns you.

"There are three kinds of lies:
lies, damn lies, and statistics."
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At these levels, bitcoin is vulnerable to darkcoin and zerocash.

When the media gets going about the lack of privacy within bitcoin compared to virtual cash of darkcoin, that will have an impact on people.

Maybe we should change the name to DarkBitCoin and say it is Bitcoin 2.0  Grin


Oh no
DRK has more value than
 Grin
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Can I suggest that if people want to offer criticism, please step up and offer your time & work to the cause. Darkcoin is entirely volunteer based, so we do the best we can with the resources we have available. I would LOVE it if the solution were as simple as "stop changing things, everything's fine". A vote for no more changes to the logo is just that -- your vote. Please don't try to subvert the democratic process -- campaigning loudly for your opinion doesn't give you more votes. We're nearly there with the logo, and I don't expect anyone wants a long period of deliberation on variants now that we have the base design chosen.

From here, there's still a lot of work to be done. Logo --> branding guide --> press releases, graphics, website, etc. The process of hashing out high quality, professional branding via group consensus is always going to be painful & tedious, and this is something I fully accepted before jumping in.

Branding is important even if it seems trivial sometimes. So let's take the time to get it right. The community is coming out with some great work, like the baby blue variation. To me these contributions represent progress. A vote will likely be called to decide on the logo & colour palette, and then we can consider these things finalised and move forward.

I fully understand & sympathise that branding efforts are taking quite a lot of time. It's a pain in my ass too, let me assure you. But I believe in taking the time to do things right the first time. Please get behind the effort and support it, because it represents our face to the world.

To address the concern about volume of posts on logo stuff in this thread, may I make a suggestion:

We move all logo/branding discussion to darkcointalk.org, as a self-enforced policy.

Yay/nay?


How to make more people to vote for DRK?
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The future is yet unclear, but there will eventually be at least one successfull anonymous coin, and along with that freedom for humanity will come as well! My bet - Darkcoin.


Thank you also optimistic about the DRK that gave me the confidence
I also believe our choice
Refueling fly DRK
 Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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One consistent pattern I have noticed is that frequent posters on this thread do not spam other subforums, forums, blogs etc to pimp Darkcoin. It is done in a good subtle way when warranted which speaks volumes about the community. I don't see Darkcoin folks attacking other coins and or their community either. On the other hand DRK is consistently attacked, hated, smeared, berated mostly by followers of competing coins and or generic altcoin followers. I even see some complain that Darkcoin is just marketing campaign. Kinda sad state of affairs when they attack innovation and real developers with real names, all the while hiding behind keyboards AND if anything, Darkcoin lacks viral marketing.

There could be more than one successful anonymous coin. Why do they need to stomp over each other? I will never understand the vitriol.

It's quite simple. DARKSEND is not out of BETA. Anon coin members are upset at their next to non-existent dev. It's also made up of a lot of "children" who got attracted to the whole "anonymous" spiel.

The second set of harpies are those who want DARKSEND out of BETA quickly because of the pumping going on for coins like ZETA and BC. It certainly hurts knowing your coin might be more technically advanced and useful but ignored, that I understand.

The third set of screechers are  the moochers waiting for DARKSEND to be open sourced so they can jump on and pump out their clone coins with IPOS and then claim innovation. We've already seen it with HIC. The users took responsibility for popularizing X-11, stripping Evan from the mast head. It's inevitable but it is what it is.

I always keep seeing some apparition buy walls that keep appearing and disappearing on cryptsy and mintpal. If that's any indication, it's that DARK coin has investors waiting in the wings for DARKSEND to come out of BETA before the marketing Blitz begins. This is the only coin that I've held on to for more than a month, all I can do is wait. That 112 BTC buy wall was not for decoration. People with money to pump the coin have taken notice but why pump it when it is not yet ready?

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2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.


2 weeks ago BTC was also much higher. Let's all abandon BTC, guys. The 'hardcore facts' say so.

+1

Darkcoin has exactly the same price in BTC/DRK as 4 weeks ago, and higher than 2 months ago, without any major fluctuations.

That's despite all the trolling, FUD threads and and a number of users having hate campaign against it.

So basically is one of the most stable and safest alts out there. This tells a lot.
Also there are no bag holders to dump, and just <5 BTC daily is required to keep current price - that's if every single coin is sold - and it isn't.

+1. I'm not worried about instant riches with this coin.  A base is being built and the coin grows organically.  I am convinced one day this coin could be trading at 1btc

Of course I wish I had started mining day 1 but I wasn't interested in cpu coins then
full member
Activity: 215
Merit: 100
2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.


2 weeks ago BTC was also much higher. Let's all abandon BTC, guys. The 'hardcore facts' say so.

+1

Darkcoin has exactly the same price in BTC/DRK as 4 weeks ago, and higher than 2 months ago, without any major fluctuations.

That's despite all the trolling, FUD threads and and a number of users having hate campaign against it.

So basically is one of the most stable and safest alts out there. This tells a lot.
Also there are no bag holders to dump, and just <5 BTC daily is required to keep current price - that's if every single coin is sold - and it isn't.

+1. I'm not worried about instant riches with this coin.  A base is being built and the coin grows organically.  I am convinced one day this coin could be trading at 1btc
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 501
One consistent pattern I have noticed is that frequent posters on this thread do not spam other subforums, forums, blogs etc to pimp Darkcoin. It is done in a good subtle way when warranted which speaks volumes about the community. I don't see Darkcoin folks attacking other coins and or their community either. On the other hand DRK is consistently attacked, hated, smeared, berated mostly by followers of competing coins and or generic altcoin followers. I even see some complain that Darkcoin is just marketing campaign. Kinda sad state of affairs when they attack innovation and real developers with real names, all the while hiding behind keyboards AND if anything, Darkcoin lacks viral marketing.

There could be more than one successful anonymous coin. Why do they need to stomp over each other? I will never understand the vitriol.
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Activity: 406
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The future is yet unclear, but there will eventually be at least one successfull anonymous coin, and along with that freedom for humanity will come as well! My bet - Darkcoin.
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 100
2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.


2 weeks ago BTC was also much higher. Let's all abandon BTC, guys. The 'hardcore facts' say so.

+1

Darkcoin has exactly the same price in BTC/DRK as 4 weeks ago, and higher than 2 months ago, without any major fluctuations.

That's despite all the trolling, FUD threads and and a number of users having hate campaign against it.

So basically is one of the most stable and safest alts out there. This tells a lot.
Also there are no bag holders to dump, and just <5 BTC daily is required to keep current price - that's if every single coin is sold - and it isn't.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.


2 weeks ago BTC was also much higher. Let's all abandon BTC, guys. The 'hardcore facts' say so.
sr. member
Activity: 309
Merit: 250
2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.


oh here we go again - why is the $-price of a coin a good and fair measurement for the coin-value?

please have a look after the BTC/USD-value - DRK is tied to BTC and there is a really stable price for this

the decrease of DRK to 22 million is just fine and voted for by the community

in mining you get always fluctuations

where have all your hardcore numbers gone?

blowing in the wind, when you are using your parachute!



legendary
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2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.


I know what you mean. I sold out of Litecoin when it was ~$22 a few weeks ago, and now its ~$10.  My investment in Darkcoin has done relatively better. Thanks for pointing that out. I need to increase my buy orders on cryptsy for more DRK.

Cheers for that.
legendary
Activity: 1790
Merit: 1100
2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.


Evan is working hard to create the first anon currency on the market. You just need to read to this thread and join the tests to know by yourself.
This is not a pump and dump coin.
We will grow because this is a real project with good developers and realistic goals.

I don't care short term price.
legendary
Activity: 1185
Merit: 1026
2 weeks ago price was 89 cents

now  53 cents.

thats some %40 drop in value.

and you know what.

total value of coins decreased from 88 million to 22 million.

thats 1/4 th.

mining profitability is bad. almost on par with hirocoin (which is dying quickly with diff down to 49 from 189 last week)

darkcoin hash rate down to 12m from 19m last week. (30% drop)

these are hardcore facts with numbers.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1001
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DarkCoin is the best coin, seriously we need to replace bitcoin.


 Cheesy
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Can I suggest that if people want to offer criticism, please step up and offer your time & work to the cause. Darkcoin is entirely volunteer based, so we do the best we can with the resources we have available. I would LOVE it if the solution were as simple as "stop changing things, everything's fine". A vote for no more changes to the logo is just that -- your vote. Please don't try to subvert the democratic process -- campaigning loudly for your opinion doesn't give you more votes. We're nearly there with the logo, and I don't expect anyone wants a long period of deliberation on variants now that we have the base design chosen.

From here, there's still a lot of work to be done. Logo --> branding guide --> press releases, graphics, website, etc. The process of hashing out high quality, professional branding via group consensus is always going to be painful & tedious, and this is something I fully accepted before jumping in.

Branding is important even if it seems trivial sometimes. So let's take the time to get it right. The community is coming out with some great work, like the baby blue variation. To me these contributions represent progress. A vote will likely be called to decide on the logo & colour palette, and then we can consider these things finalised and move forward.

I fully understand & sympathise that branding efforts are taking quite a lot of time. It's a pain in my ass too, let me assure you. But I believe in taking the time to do things right the first time. Please get behind the effort and support it, because it represents our face to the world.

To address the concern about volume of posts on logo stuff in this thread, may I make a suggestion:

We move all logo/branding discussion to darkcointalk.org, as a self-enforced policy.

Yay/nay?

Absolutely.
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