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Topic: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network - page 511. (Read 1201332 times)

vip
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Miss the point much?
I could care less who gets, and how much free money due to the doling out of an airdrop, nor of the unscrupulous folks who managed to game the system a bit OR A LOT.

No, I didn't miss the point.  The simple fact is there are a few people on here complaining because maybe some folks got more than they did and that's unfair.  I'm sorry if it hurts anyone's frail sensibilities, but it is simply immature to complain that maybe somebody else got more free than they did.  Besides, even if we assume you're right and the process got scammed "A LOT", what purpose does it serve to get upset about it?  For anyone that was never expecting more than 168 coins, absolutely nothing changed for them.  Anyone expecting more than that is just setting themselves up for disappointment.  If it ends up being more, sweet, if it doesn't, it's what you already expected.

Missed again!

Somebody explain it to him. I suggest slowly.
legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
I am supposed to be getting some airdrop coins and I only registered for one account, and I joined the Decred forums. So, the developers could only possibly be 4999 of the possible participants in the air drop.  Tongue

Yes, the airdrop can be gamed, but the Decred developers did the best they could of policing it. The link I submitted in the original submission form was broken, and they replied back asking me for the correct link. At the very least they visited the links to make sure they were not broken. It wouldn't of taken too much more time to take a quick glance of the account.

Yes, this does not fully combat Sybil, but I don't think it's a huge deal. NEM was distributed similarly and has a market capitalization above 4 million USD. Complaining will not change how this goes down.. the developers seem to have made up their mind as to how the original distribution will happen. So, I suggest everyone simply chill out.. unless you are not a participant in the airdrop and complaining, because then I question your intentions.
newbie
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Looking forward to the launch  Cheesy
newbie
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Miss the point much?
I could care less who gets, and how much free money due to the doling out of an airdrop, nor of the unscrupulous folks who managed to game the system a bit OR A LOT.

No, I didn't miss the point.  The simple fact is there are a few people on here complaining because maybe some folks got more than they did and that's unfair.  I'm sorry if it hurts anyone's frail sensibilities, but it is simply immature to complain that maybe somebody else got more free than they did.  Besides, even if we assume you're right and the process got scammed "A LOT", what purpose does it serve to get upset about it?  For anyone that was never expecting more than 168 coins, absolutely nothing changed for them.  Anyone expecting more than that is just setting themselves up for disappointment.  If it ends up being more, sweet, if it doesn't, it's what you already expected.
vip
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It would mean that the dishonest people (those who have gamed the system) will be unfairly benefited, receiving 3x, 4x, 5x, n times the amount the "honest users" will receive.... that would be a bad start for a cryptocurrency: rewarding dishonest people to the detriment of the honest ones :/

I understand that, but really it's looking at it in the wrong light.  If you are only planning on getting 168 coins, which is the prudent thing to do, then anything more than that is just gravy.  Why not just be grateful for an extremely generous gift and getting in on the ground floor of a coin that appears to have a bright future instead of worrying about other people?  It should come as no surprise that there are scumbags out there.  I don't mean this as a personal attack, but anybody seriously getting upset about receiving free coins because maybe some unscrupulous folks managed to game the system a bit seriously screams of an immature child whining "moooooooom, it's not fair Jimmy next door got two scoops of ice cream while I only got one".  Be happy you're eating ice cream while there are large populations of people that are starving.

Something else to consider is that even if some folks managed to scam and get some additional coins, it just means they're probably going to sell them as soon as they can and those of us who plan on holding can improve our positions on the cheap.



Miss the point much?

I could care less who gets, and how much free money due to the doling out of an airdrop, nor of the unscrupulous folks who managed to game the system a bit OR A LOT.

Somebody please explain it to him so that I don't accidentally resort to using dirty words on this thread.
newbie
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It would mean that the dishonest people (those who have gamed the system) will be unfairly benefited, receiving 3x, 4x, 5x, n times the amount the "honest users" will receive.... that would be a bad start for a cryptocurrency: rewarding dishonest people to the detriment of the honest ones :/

I understand that, but really it's looking at it in the wrong light.  If you are only planning on getting 168 coins, which is the prudent thing to do, then anything more than that is just gravy.  Why not just be grateful for an extremely generous gift and getting in on the ground floor of a coin that appears to have a bright future instead of worrying about other people?  It should come as no surprise that there are scumbags out there.  I don't mean this as a personal attack, but anybody seriously getting upset about receiving free coins because maybe some unscrupulous folks managed to game the system a bit and get more than them seriously screams of an immature child whining "moooooooom, it's not fair Jimmy next door got two scoops of ice cream while I only got one".  Be happy you're eating ice cream while there are large populations of people that are starving.

Something else to consider is that even if some folks managed to scam and get some additional coins, it just means they're probably going to sell them as soon as they can and those of us who plan on holding can improve our positions on the cheap.

hero member
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@Mansa_Godson
Can i not give a fuck about the vetting process
so what if people got multiple times
it just means cheaper decred at the exchanges for us
why you people complain so much ??
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People are always afraid of new ideas.

hero member
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hi =D
I join the FB group, not yet understand talk why it! Huh
newbie
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That link asks me to login.

Thanks but I will never know what is on fb.

 Cheesy you're not losing anything
legendary
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That link asks me to login.

Thanks but I will never know what is on fb.
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo

blah blah blah im lost the airdrop blah blah
blah blah i feel envy blah blah
blah


the official forum already has more then 1000 members.
There is a decred's facebook group with around 350 investors just in my country, most of them participated in airdrop and few are bctalk members or official forum members.
No one of us will sell our coins from airdrop. We will buy more  Wink

I have never been on facebook.  From what you say it seems fb may have a bigger crypto scene than bct Tongue

Is your country small, medium or large?

medium
https://www.facebook.com/groups/667062416769204/
vip
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I'm more curious why it would even matter if it were true.  As a thought experiment, let's assume for a moment that everything you say were to actually happen.  Also, let's assume that all of the remaining 5,000 spots minus all of the people that have publicly posted they were accepted into the airdrop were filled by nothing but successful scammers, devs, and little magical fairies.  In that scenario, everyone that managed to get in still receives 168 coins for FREE.  Anything less than 5,000 spots means the participants get even more than that.  Nobody was asked for or paid any money.  This really seems like complaining about receiving free money to me.
(..)

It would mean that the dishonest people (those who have gamed the system) will be unfairly benefited, receiving 3x, 4x, 5x, n times the amount the "honest users" will receive.... that would be a bad start for a cryptocurrency: rewarding dishonest people to the detriment of the honest ones :/


Such is life even in the crypto world...


-tb-

 Grin especially here at this BTCtalk forum... that's why I hate it here  Wink
legendary
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Point. Click. Blockchain

I'm more curious why it would even matter if it were true.  As a thought experiment, let's assume for a moment that everything you say were to actually happen.  Also, let's assume that all of the remaining 5,000 spots minus all of the people that have publicly posted they were accepted into the airdrop were filled by nothing but successful scammers, devs, and little magical fairies.  In that scenario, everyone that managed to get in still receives 168 coins for FREE.  Anything less than 5,000 spots means the participants get even more than that.  Nobody was asked for or paid any money.  This really seems like complaining about receiving free money to me.
(..)

It would mean that the dishonest people (those who have gamed the system) will be unfairly benefited, receiving 3x, 4x, 5x, n times the amount the "honest users" will receive.... that would be a bad start for a cryptocurrency: rewarding dishonest people to the detriment of the honest ones :/


Such is life even in the crypto world...


-tb-
newbie
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I'm more curious why it would even matter if it were true.  As a thought experiment, let's assume for a moment that everything you say were to actually happen.  Also, let's assume that all of the remaining 5,000 spots minus all of the people that have publicly posted they were accepted into the airdrop were filled by nothing but successful scammers, devs, and little magical fairies.  In that scenario, everyone that managed to get in still receives 168 coins for FREE.  Anything less than 5,000 spots means the participants get even more than that.  Nobody was asked for or paid any money.  This really seems like complaining about receiving free money to me.
(..)

It would mean that the dishonest people (those who have gamed the system) will be unfairly benefited, receiving 3x, 4x, 5x, n times the amount the "honest users" will receive.... that would be a bad start for a cryptocurrency: rewarding dishonest people to the detriment of the honest ones :/
newbie
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Yes, there is apparently 1,023 members of the official forum controlled by the dev team; it would probably be completely impossible for them to inflate the number of users by changing a number in a database, right? I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just pointing out that there is no transparency in the process.

I'm more curious why it would even matter if it were true.  As a thought experiment, let's assume for a moment that everything you say were to actually happen.  Also, let's assume that all of the remaining 5,000 spots minus all of the people that have publicly posted they were accepted into the airdrop were filled by nothing but successful scammers, devs, and little magical fairies.  In that scenario, everyone that managed to get in still receives 168 coins for FREE.  Anything less than 5,000 spots means the participants get even more than that.  Nobody was asked for or paid any money.  This really seems like complaining about receiving free money to me.

Further, if the devs wanted to keep all the coins, why would they have even bothered with an airdrop to begin with?  The suggestion that they went through the entire airdrop process, of which there are already a huge number of people that have publicly posted they were accepted to, in order to turn around and keep the very same coins they simply could've simply kept to begin with seems like an whole heck of a lot of work to end up with less coins than they would've had without it.

Decred could've easily stated that they'll do their best to make sure that folks aren't gaming the system via participation in the airdrop for a limited 5,000 participants. But, Decred opted to up the ante after being approached with how the system could easily be gamed (by me - NO OTHERS to date), whereupon they responded with having layers of defense mechanisms in place to ward off said gaming.

Unless you spoke to them via PMs where more was stated, which is certainly possible, it appears to me like you are overstating the response.  I remember seeing the response and what you're saying here is not what I remembered reading, so I went and found the response.  Here it is: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13493398

I'll quote the relevant pieces:

This is a fair concern. There are a number of verification steps involved ... No system is going to be perfect, but reasonable steps can be taken to make it as inclusive and fair as possible.

I don't see anything there at all that even remotely implies "layers of defense mechanisms".  In fact, quite to the contrary, they even acknowledged the system wasn't "going to be perfect".  I personally read "but reasonable steps can be taken to make it as inclusive and fair as possible" as doing exactly what you said where they could have "easily stated that they'll do their best to make sure that folks aren't gaming the system".
legendary
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blah blah blah im lost the airdrop blah blah
blah blah i feel envy blah blah
blah


the official forum already has more then 1000 members.
There is a decred's facebook group with around 350 investors just in my country, most of them participated in airdrop and few are bctalk members or official forum members.
No one of us will sell our coins from airdrop. We will buy more  Wink

I have never been on facebook.  From what you say it seems fb may have a bigger crypto scene than bct Tongue

Is your country small, medium or large?
full member
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blah blah blah im lost the airdrop blah blah
blah blah i feel envy blah blah
blah


the official forum already has more then 1000 members.
There is a decred's facebook group with around 350 investors just in my country, most of them participated in airdrop and few are bctalk members or official forum members.
No one of us will sell our coins from airdrop. We will buy more  Wink

You don't have to be a douchetaco about it. Yes, there is apparently 1,023 members of the official forum controlled by the dev team; it would probably be completely impossible for them to inflate the number of users by changing a number in a database, right? I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just pointing out that there is no transparency in the process.
At first don't want to offend you  BUT
In my opinion it is possible to have even 10 000 members.
That forum gather people arround the world. 57313 is the number of views that topic in that forum. But as you know its not the only one forum in bitcoin subject.
So is number 1000 members is fake ? For project like that I don't thing so
p.s.
Of course  for someone the real coin can be wampircoin, fishcoin, monkeycoin, africaanimalscoin,  etc.
Everybody has it's own common sense
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