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Topic: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Community Governance | Bitcoin Devs | Lightning Network - page 512. (Read 1201380 times)

vip
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Are there plans to release the identities of airdrop recipients? So people can see if a significant fraction of the airdrop went to newbie accounts or Twitter handles with a single tweet or friendless Facebookers, etc.

Absolutely not. This will never happen. It would be a complete violation of trust and an invasion of privacy.

Just curious after seeing this post from someone saying they were able to register (and receive confirmation) in the airdrop process using only an email address (not even a lightly used social media presence):
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13601490

Also, afaik there was not any verification that the email address I used to sign up has been checked that it is associated with this btctalk account, implying that you could claim any social media account as your own (that didn't have a public email), and then supply your own unrelated email address(es) to get an undeserved airdrop share.

I disagree that it would necessarily be a violation of privacy, since people are nominally registering with public social media accounts.

Anyway, I was just asking because I've probably seen at most 500 (and that's probably waaay overestimating) people commenting on this thread, irc, reddit, or twitter, so if it comes out that the number of airdrop participants is in the thousands, either we have to believe that the vast majority of airdrop participants are silent but honest participants, that someone or some people are gaming the system by claiming many more than a single share, or that the developers are inflating the number of users who signed up to keep the extra shares for themselves. The only way I could see that the developers can not just have to say, "trust us", is if the airdrop's social media accounts are publicly released, but apparently that isn't an option...

Decred could've easily stated that they'll do their best to make sure that folks aren't gaming the system via participation in the airdrop for a limited 5,000 participants. But, Decred opted to up the ante after being approached with how the system could easily be gamed (by me - NO OTHERS to date), whereupon they responded with having layers of defense mechanisms in place to ward off said gaming. It was after such exchange, of which was after most have already applied for the airdrop, thus freeing up their personnel to conduct a more fuller investigatory process on my scammy ass, that I signed up to test their layers, passing with flying colors, opting to sign up over a dozen more times. supplying Decred with ONLY newly created email addresses, with all that I've checked also passing muster, each having a unique "Confirmation link" within, in essence gaming the system in the same way I warned Decred about in which they offered up how the concern is moot given...

What did I receive in kind for revealing this truism?


And, we're all completely shocked that it would be you here raising a stink about it.  Get a life ya old coot.

legendary
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blah blah blah im lost the airdrop blah blah
blah blah i feel envy blah blah
blah


the official forum already has more then 1000 members.
There is a decred's facebook group with around 350 investors just in my country, most of them participated in airdrop and few are bctalk members or official forum members.
No one of us will sell our coins from airdrop. We will buy more  Wink

You don't have to be a douchetaco about it. Yes, there is apparently 1,023 members of the official forum controlled by the dev team; it would probably be completely impossible for them to inflate the number of users by changing a number in a database, right? I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just pointing out that there is no transparency in the process.
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo

blah blah blah im lost the airdrop blah blah
blah blah i feel envy blah blah
blah


the official forum already has more then 1000 members.
There is a decred's facebook group with around 350 investors just in my country, most of them participated in airdrop and few are bctalk members or official forum members.
No one of us will sell our coins from airdrop. We will buy more  Wink
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1116
Are there plans to release the identities of airdrop recipients? So people can see if a significant fraction of the airdrop went to newbie accounts or Twitter handles with a single tweet or friendless Facebookers, etc.

Absolutely not. This will never happen. It would be a complete violation of trust and an invasion of privacy.

Just curious after seeing this post from someone saying they were able to register (and receive confirmation) in the airdrop process using only an email address (not even a lightly used social media presence):
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13601490

Also, afaik there was not any verification that the email address I used to sign up has been checked that it is associated with this btctalk account, implying that you could claim any social media account as your own (that didn't have a public email), and then supply your own unrelated email address(es) to get an undeserved airdrop share.

I disagree that it would necessarily be a violation of privacy, since people are nominally registering with public social media accounts.

Anyway, I was just asking because I've probably seen at most 500 (and that's probably waaay overestimating) people commenting on this thread, irc, reddit, or twitter, so if it comes out that the number of airdrop participants is in the thousands, either we have to believe that the vast majority of airdrop participants are silent but honest participants, that someone or some people are gaming the system by claiming many more than a single share, or that the developers are inflating the number of users who signed up to keep the extra shares for themselves. The only way I could see that the developers can not just have to say, "trust us", is if the airdrop's social media accounts are publicly released, but apparently that isn't an option...
full member
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Are there plans to release the identities of airdrop recipients? So people can see if a significant fraction of the airdrop went to newbie accounts or Twitter handles with a single tweet or friendless Facebookers, etc.

Absolutely not. This will never happen. It would be a complete violation of trust and an invasion of privacy.
legendary
Activity: 3136
Merit: 1116
Are there plans to release the identities of airdrop recipients? So people can see if a significant fraction of the airdrop went to newbie accounts or Twitter handles with a single tweet or friendless Facebookers, etc.
full member
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Waiting for the lunch day happy that will get the airdrop Smiley
sr. member
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what will happen to those that won't complete the coin request? I mean their coin will be burned or will be distributed among the others?

The coins go to the submitted addresses. That list is made final on Monday and addresses in that list get airdrop.
legendary
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what will happen to those that won't complete the coin request? I mean their coin will be burned or will be distributed among the others?
hero member
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Airdrop ended january 18.
Today is january 22....no numbers about airdrop partecipants.

Can just assume that since aidrop doesn't closed before end date,means that 5k cap wasn't reached.


The number of airdrop participants isn't that important, because after requesting the airdrop people had to create their address and confirm their request until 25th. I guess, a few claimers will fall out at this phase so, imo on monday, tuesday we'll get the final numbers
I can totally agree with you on this one.
newbie
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i registered on the website forum looks very nice! And i would like to register for airdrop! Still have time till 25 ! where can i register to airdrop to get my personal wallet!thanks to all! Smiley
very happy to be with you!

Airdrop Signup is already closed:

(...)
01/17/16 06:00 PM CST - Airdrop sign up has closed. A final batch of invitation e-mails will go out tomorrow.
(...)

Sorry about that :/

But you'll be able to buy DECRED as soon as it reaches the exchanges: some users may dump their DCR for cheap prices, as it seems. That will be a good opportunity Wink Keep watching.
legendary
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Merit: 1014
i registered on the website forum looks very nice! And i would like to register for airdrop! Still have time till 25 ! where can i register to airdrop to get my personal wallet!thanks to all! Smiley
very happy to be with you!
hero member
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Crypto is King.
I can haz qind0wz w4ll3t 4 c00ll3ct ma9 A1rdr0p n0w?
legendary
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You mean the Airdrop davide72?. The date to register for the Airdrop already expired. If you mean the forum of course you can, addresses are available in the OP.
I sent an email  ,i could not sign up when still was available! Did not know what happens! but ok!
legendary
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You mean the Airdrop davide72?. The date to register for the Airdrop already expired. If you mean the forum of course you can, addresses are available in the OP.
legendary
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can i join the website
full member
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Quote
Immutable transaction hashes ("transaction IDs") by separating transaction signatures from the rest of the transaction data - A permanent fix for transaction hash malleability has been implemented that prevents mutability of the transaction hash by separating it from its input signatures. This allows more efficient SPV validation. Fraud proofs have also been added.

Is this similar to segregated witness?

Yes, but every transaction has it by default and you do not need to store the witness data outside of the block.
sr. member
Activity: 452
Merit: 251
The number of airdrop participants isn't that important, because after requesting the airdrop people had to create their address and confirm their request until 25th. I guess, a few claimers will fall out at this phase so, imo on monday, tuesday we'll get the final numbers

That is correct. Time must be made for those that haven't completed the process yet. There are many reasons why some people haven't completed yet, and sadly, some of them won't make it over the line. That is an unfortunate reality - but the best that can be done, in the interest of fairness, is to wait for them so they too have some time to get there. The final date for completion is Monday (01/25/16).

Having said that, the numbers are good. That will be released next week for sure. Not so many participants that everyone only gets a little bit, but also not so few participants that everyone gets so much that those who missed out will feel sad about it in the future. It's a great equilibrium, and that will be reflected. Everyone can feel good about working at this and informing others about the project. I am confident that if we keep our focus on inclusivity and being constructive in our interactions with each other, we are at the cusp of beginning something great. The focus from those actively working on it is certainly that.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Airdrop ended january 18.
Today is january 22....no numbers about airdrop partecipants.

Can just assume that since aidrop doesn't closed before end date,means that 5k cap wasn't reached.


The number of airdrop participants isn't that important, because after requesting the airdrop people had to create their address and confirm their request until 25th. I guess, a few claimers will fall out at this phase so, imo on monday, tuesday we'll get the final numbers
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 500
Airdrop ended january 18.
Today is january 22....no numbers about airdrop partecipants.

Can just assume that since aidrop doesn't closed before end date,means that 5k cap wasn't reached.



Probably we will know airdrop participants number on monday
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