Topic: [ANN][ENRG]Energycoin - Android Released - Bittrex - - page 5. (Read 334544 times)

wow,live again

I'm aware of the great potential of the blockchain and I hope I can convience people outsite the cryptocurrency world to make use of that for deliver proof of green energy and reward smart usage of the greengrid. Wednesday (in two days) I have a very important meeting with a company working for smartgrid/smartmeters and rewarding Energiemunt (yes a Dutch version of EnergyCoin!), not crypto-version but a cridit token like airmails, used for reward smart usage of the greengrid. If we can come to an agreement then that is the start of a great future for EnergyCoin and we have a green snowball effect! The 1Kwh garantee value for ENRG is in reach then and many applications can be build.

No one can argue though that blockchain tech is not highly innovative and disruptive, because it is both.

  might not be a plain'n'simple believer, but I sure am a supporter No argues on that one

My point is that the Blockchain will be used for so much more than money - it might be another version/interaction of it, though, because the power lies in the concept, not any particular implementation.
And there are, most certainly, more than a few shortcomings in the current ones, specially towards the methods necessary to keep the chain going and secure, aka, POW/POS and the distributed network needed to keep it all solid.

We - those in and around crypto - might be the frontrunners for now, but that will change for sure.

Everyday now, more and more people realize the advantages of having a trustless open public ledger - and that can be used for any payload, anything we want, as long as it can be represented in a binary form.

Once this concept stops being associated with only cryptocurrencies, then the fun begins

As for the coins themselves, be it BTC or any other coin for that matter, maybe they'll be around, as money, or as a simple means of transactional-based value or something else we don't foresee right now
But I don't see this particular generation of coins as the ones that will make the push into mainstream, that's all.

But i'll keep pushing anyway, 'cause whatever we may be doing right now, it will be the basis of what's to come, one way or another.

 "If you think it through you can see it: Euros, dollars and all the other legal tender around the world are only worth because we all agree they are ... and as such, we accept them as trading tokens and carry out hour lives using it.
In that sense, *any* cryptocurrency can become useful. Hell, *anything* can become useful as a trading token - just go through history and check everything that has been used as money throughout humanity's journey Smiley
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 Yeah, you should see me explain to people that money has no real value and watch their face contort in all kinds of strange ways. There is actually a need for Crypto as currency and that need is being seen by more people now then in the recent past. So, the idea that the blockchain is the only part of Bitcoin ( or any coin ) that has value is hard to foresee. I think both the token aspect and Technological aspect of Crypto will live on into the future.

 Also, as much as some people would scratch their heads at this idea, there is a good possibility that the US government ( for various reasons ) was initially the creator of Crytocurrency/Blockchain Tech. Think about it, the US knows it's own currency may be in trouble one day and they decide to create a currency online that they can appear to be distant from ( so as not to cause panic on the Dollar )  something they can grow a user base around without undue worry about the dollar and then, if the worst happens and all has gone well, there is already an established base of users and businesses accepting the currency.

 I grant you that the above is my own personal "maybe" and only one possibility out of many, but I do not see the government going to war on Bitcoin or even cash. I see a diversification of something that used to be strictly central and that is giving many people who are established in the old system lots of trouble in understanding.

 The take away is really that what we are eventually going to see is something hybrid between central and decentralized monetary systems and in getting there, there will likely be room for even more "Altcoins" then there are right now.   No one can argue though that blockchain tech is not highly innovative and disruptive, because it is both.

Jan, they're all special, none is any less than the other - you may either trust them all or none at all.

The fact that you're more fond of some than others doesn't give them any added value except for you.

The problem with personal valuations is that unless they converge in big numbers into one set, the valued assets aren't

If you think it through you can see it: Euros, dollars and all the other legal tender around the world are only worth because we all agree they are ... and as such, we accept them as trading tokens and carry out hour lives using it.
In that sense, *any* cryptocurrency can become useful. Hell, *anything* can become useful as a trading token - just go through history and check everything that has been used as money throughout humanity's journey

But that won't happen without a good reason for it. Believing it, I'm afraid, is not enough.

I know you try hard to achieve that goal - and that's why I advise you to restart the coin from scratch this coin is already tarnished with the same as all the others: someone is waiting it to become valuable enough to cash/trade in ... and be done with it. Even holding 25% of the coin won't give you the empowerment to face that - it's human nature.

To conclude, I emphasize my recommendation once again:  start over fresh and anew. I know that you're "enchantment" is with the name and know you "own" it

You misunderstood me: I said BTC is still the only one with *some* practical, real life use today. That's all.

I know as much about the future as the next guy, i.e., I know *nothing*  

There's a war against money going on (it has been for some time now) and it looks like coins and bills are going the way of the dodo ... but there's also a war on anything decentralized and non-government controllable, so crypto is in for the same fate, I'm afraid.
I said this more than once in several places: the innovation is the blockchain, not the coins themselves

So, these technologies will probably be the foundation and core of the future "money" ... but it will be very difficult, without a  major shift or disruption to current affairs, for *any* current cryptocurrency to be useful in that future.

Nice said Haron, there is a place for EergyCoin and also other special curancy like XMR, NXT, Ripple.
Only trust on Bitcoin is danger becouse also bitcoin can maybe crash.

 I do not agree that Bitcoin will be the only coin of any value in the future. Even in the event of implementation of side chains. In fact that tecnical failure that Energycoin has suffered points to a need for a diverse crypto space that can serve specialized markets.  Though most people in the Bitcoin space like to think that Bitcoin is now beyond certain modes of technical failure that would be hard to correct, most of those thoughts are dead wrong. Every technological thing can break and in times of a broken Bitcoin, other coins would be useful, even if only temporarily.

 I think you'll find a use case for using a separate coin for energy and energy conservation, things that Bitcoin was not explicitly deigned to do.

Thx SlientBit  and Digithusiast for you kind words.
All help is welcome of course and I consider my options to comming days.
A developer I can meet personally I prefer and take my time to make the right choices.
The meeting today would have been moved to April 8 and that is no problem.
I have some good help of community members for doing forking myself but it is a precarious process that must be done very carefully.
I still really belive we can be the green cryptocurrency of the future and I don't give up!

And it's finally yours   Good luck Jan, your perseverance led you here, may it take you ahead too.
And the same goes to all those that have been with you - If I'm not mistaken, you are the very last of the original holders of the coin ... and certainly the only one left from the initial team.

Word of advise though: unless you're about to become a programmer with skills to match a crypto endeavor and rescue ENRG, you better get a new dev to pick up and continue the work.

My two cents on ENRG: since you now "own" the name and can make a claim about it, perhaps a complete reboot of the coin would be the best way forward. It would allow for a fresh start on all fronts, including developing the coin with code anew

Whatever way you all go, good luck


(PS - yes, I never stopped reading the thread. But I'm not in to believing anymore ... this coin or any other. So, there's only one that as some real world use, the original BTC. Take care)

Awesome Jan... I am behind ya! With a market cap under $10,000usd my coins also stay off the market!!

Hi community,

I officially announce I take over the development of EnergyCoin.
Have send several messages to EnergyCR and now I changed the password of EnergyCoin.pw
Behind the scenes I work on fork the block chain but it takes me some time to find out how that works.
Check all of you are on the right block:


This Friday I have a meeting for application of EnergyCoin and if that works out positive it can give development a boost.
Trading on Bittrex is still possible and I appreciate if people trade and put some extra buy orders.
Most of my ENRG is off the market and stays of he market!

If there is some development I inform you.

I have same block as has been listed here.

Same block here.

Block hash:

Confirm it is the same block as in the blockexplorer.

We work on the solution.
No panic.

Very nice and thanks for your analysis. 

Now Jan has sent you his updated blockchain file. Please continue your analysis with the updated file. At least we'd like to know if there was really any DDOS (if any) on/before block height 1051199. At my end I don’t see any other fork up to block height 1051199.

Would appreciate if you or anyone else can come up with a better solution under the current situation. If the community agrees with that solution we can all go for it.

Looking such an Energycoin...have get this wallet.....

Check if your block hash for 1051199 matches with the blockchain explorer or not first (just to play safe).

If it does match, just keep your Raspberry running unless Jan asks you to stop.

If it doesn’t match or it already syncs beyond 1051200, stop your Raspberry immediately.


P.S.: Everyone please check block hash now. Don’t just check block height. Block heights are meaningless under the current fork situation. For example we already have at least 7 different block hashes for the same block height 1051200.

Type getblockhash 1051199 in the console. It should return you 0875fb57859d36ce5b9d9744f843b96d1e7af91f2e5d39fc5f77dac26e10980e

Then to check if it fully conforms to the blockchain explorer, type:

getblock 0875fb57859d36ce5b9d9744f843b96d1e7af91f2e5d39fc5f77dac26e10980e

The blockchain explorer has last block 1052000 coz it is connecting to other peers which are on forks.

Check PM.